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SedanChair posted:Oh that is precious. They'll just say Obama is going against the constitution, and that's why there's gridlock because the GOP is too busy trying to keep America from becoming a dictatorship to pass bills. Counterargument: "My Senator/Representative is fighting the good fight but those RINOs in the party leadership are controlling the party and keeping us from [conservative position here]".
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On Terra Firma posted:We never learn in this thread do we? SedanChair posted:Oh that is precious. They'll just say Obama is going against the constitution, and that's why there's gridlock because the GOP is too busy trying to keep America from becoming a dictatorship to pass bills. I meant that bit to be sarcastic, but I think I failed. bqwhatvwr zoux posted:Like a week ago there were all these articles about how Bohener was perfectly safe. Did something change or is this the media horse racing it? It's just horse race nonsense. ErIog fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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do you guys have a link to a cspan stream that doesn't require me to authenticate my lack of cable/satellite tv?
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DJ BK posted:do you guys have a link to a cspan stream that doesn't require me to authenticate my lack of cable/satellite tv? http://www.c-span.org/video/?323586-1/washington-journal-preview-114th-congress&live The "Live Now" links on C-SPAN don't require validation, just the ones under "TV Networks". Here's the list of people who are not voting for Boehner: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/01/05/the-boehner-for-speaker-whip-count/ posted:Voting against Boehner (13) Meanwhile, you have another hour or so to enjoy the fact that this website actually exists: http://gohmertforspeaker.com/ 
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Fried Chicken posted:Is there something beyond the Great Depression thee that I'm missing? Yea, I feel like I'm missing something else here...
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, you have another hour or so to enjoy the fact that this website actually exists: http://gohmertforspeaker.com/ I've never noticed before how much Louie Gohmert looks like a bald Scott Walker.
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Joementum posted:http://www.c-span.org/video/?323586-1/washington-journal-preview-114th-congress&live 
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So when Stutzman isn't busy jockeying for a position in the leadership, he's actively trying to undermine the Speaker. Does he know how politics works? (Insert "We have to get something out of this. And I don't even know what it is" clip here)
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Jan 6, 2015 16:23
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Ahh, C-SPAN callers. "We gotta vote against Boehner because he stopped the impeachment, which is what Obama wanted, and repeal Obamacare because it's... it's just goofy!"
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Joementum posted:Ahh, C-SPAN callers. "We gotta vote against Boehner because he stopped the impeachment, which is what Obama wanted, and repeal Obamacare because it's... it's just goofy!" Vox populi Vox dei
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Amergin posted:Wonderful Fresh Air bit with Steven Brill on why Obamacare is nice because it helps a bunch of people get insurance but it's actually stupid and doesn't really do anything to cut healthcare costs at all. I also agree that we should return to the virtuous meritocracy of George W. Bush.
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So boner wins because nobody wants to run against him because when they lose they get blackballed? Politics? edit: strategery? An Apple A Gay fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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Jan 6, 2015 17:00
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He wins because most people are fine with him being Speaker.
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And his only serious challenger was defeated in a primary last year by a college professor who thinks that Ayn Rand was the second coming of Jesus.
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Joementum posted:And his only serious challenger was defeated in a primary last year by a college professor who thinks that Ayn Rand was the second coming of Jesus. Well, Scalise could have made a play here, but the news about his speaking engagement has him laying low for now.
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DJ BK posted:So boner wins because nobody wants to run against him because when they lose they get blackballed? Politics? Most Republicans are fine with Boehner remaining Speaker or realize how embarrassing it would be for the party to have their leader voted out of office by a group of radicals. Plus, I would imagine that if you vote against Boehner and he still wins that it will significantly hamper your ability to work in the House. Unless you have a big name, the leadership is not going to tolerate sabotage and will actively deny you and your district opportunities.
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"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine." \ \ 
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Fried Chicken posted:Vox populi Vox dei I'm sorry we were looking for Vox populi Vox canem. Vox populi Vox humbug would also have been acceptable.
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QuoProQuid posted:Most Republicans are fine with Boehner remaining Speaker or realize how embarrassing it would be for the party to have their leader voted out of office by a group of radicals. The sort of radicals who would vote against the weepy orange man don't give a poo poo about leadership or district opportunities beyond the opportunity to grandstand.
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Ones fanning the Boehner flames here are loud assholes that just want attention.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I'm sorry we were looking for Vox populi Vox canem. Vox populi Vox humbug would also have been acceptable. So I wonder if ancient Athens had a version of Tea Party nutbags that stood up every ecclesia and ranted about poo poo they knew nothing about. These words are lost to modern historians as no one committed them to stone.
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zoux posted:So I wonder if ancient Athens had a version of Tea Party nutbags that stood up every ecclesia and ranted about poo poo they knew nothing about. These words are lost to modern historians as no one committed them to stone.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Half of Plato's dialogues are him talking to people who ranted about poo poo they knew nothing about. Yeah but those are history's earliest strawmen.
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Abel Wingnut posted:Yea, I feel like I'm missing something else here... I believe the irony in Newt's quote is related to his own tenure as Speaker of the House
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Jan 6, 2015 17:29
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Someone was trying to spread the rumour that the accident happened in a sex swing.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I'm sorry we were looking for Vox populi Vox canem. Vox populi Vox humbug would also have been acceptable. Of course, we all know the government really operates on the principle of lucre sermat. Which leaves the rest of us excretus ex fortuna, but if we complain they can always fall back on the justification of quia ego sic dico, enforced by the police under the doctrine of fabricati diem punc
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What time (ish) is the speaker vote today? I know it'll probably be pretty boring and relatively "most people cool with Boehner? Cool. Done.", but I still am hoping for a miracle. Edit: Gotta love the CSPAN Pic for Biden 
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Guys we really shouldn't be rooting for Team Chaos in our own government.
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SgtScruffy posted:What time (ish) is the speaker vote today? I know it'll probably be pretty boring and relatively "most people cool with Boehner? Cool. Done.", but I still am hoping for a miracle. 12:40 I believe
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zoux posted:Guys we really shouldn't be rooting for Team Chaos in our own government. I'm less rooting FOR it as I would be rooting for the like, 4 hours of  immediately following it that would be hilarious. Everything after that would probably be terrible dysfunction to levels even currently unseen... but those four hours would be pretty sweet.Edit: VVV He put it better.
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zoux posted:Guys we really shouldn't be rooting for Team Chaos in our own government. How will it be different from our current situation? Might as well root for maximum hilarity.
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Fried Chicken posted:Of course, we all know the government really operates on the principle of lucre sermat. Which leaves the rest of us excretus ex fortuna, but if we complain they can always fall back on the justification of quia ego sic dico, enforced by the police under the doctrine of fabricati diem punc you should probably bone up on your west wing and general sherman quotes if you think discworld is where I pulled those from.
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Post 9-11 User posted:My brother is a veteran and this documentary is what convinced him that VICE is the business. I'm excited what their news agency will become when they're finished setting up all the bureaus (there are more hipsters now but they seem to be funneling them into busy work). You can watch the ISIS one on SIPRNet.
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Public whip count is now at 18 against Boehner and Daniel Webster is also running for Speaker.
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Stultus Maximus posted:The sort of radicals who would vote against the weepy orange man don't give a poo poo about leadership or district opportunities beyond the opportunity to grandstand. As I said, most Republicans in Congress are not Tea Party "true believers" and actually possess a sense of self-preservation. Unless the number gets close to 28 and it looks like Boehner is going down, I don't think there will be any major defections. Joementum posted:Public whip count is now at 18 against Boehner and Daniel Webster is also running for Speaker. Who are the two additions? I assume Daniel Webster is one. QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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Meanwhile, the Police Unions are calling on Congress to make changes to hate crime laws to include "The Police" as a protected class. http://www.fop.net/servlet/display/news_article?id=6015&XSL=xsl_pages%2Fpublic_news_individual.xsl&nocache=449270
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'Whammy!' - Louie Gohmert
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zoux posted:Guys we really shouldn't be rooting for Team Chaos in our own government. You're right, wouldn't want to throw a wrench into the finely tuned efficiency of congress.
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Aerox posted:Meanwhile, the Police Unions are calling on Congress to make changes to hate crime laws to include "The Police" as a protected class. They are such babies, the slightest criticism and they go full on temper tantrum.
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