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40 OZ
May 16, 2003

unlawfulsoup posted:

What are the general feelings on the Gretsch G5420 and G5422TDC? I want a hollowbody, and the Epiphone Casino is the biggest pile of garbage quality wise; so I am avoiding that awful company altogether. I know about Ibanez but most of their offerings look awful to me. I was going to look at the Gretsch's when I got a chance, but I was just wondering if they had problems or should be avoided for some reason.

It is very expensive for what it is, but a fine guitar. The pickups are quite good now (as compared to the previous electromatic 6120-like). It isn't really worth it to go TV Jones immediately anymore.

The bridge isn't great. You need to locate a good tech. You have to figure out what you want to do with the bridge. I had mine pinned, which is very common, and I'm happy with the results, although the bigsby doesn't like it, because it isn't a roller bridge. You can get a roller bridge, but they are like 75$ and you may need a tech's help.

There are limitations to this, though. If you play with a light touch, you can just intonate it, then mark it somehow, and move on.

Also, don't use light strings. Stick with the factory sizes- the bigsby doesn't play nice with light strings.

I love mine, it is my baby, but do not expect to have your socks knocked off or anything like a CV Tele, and don't buy it and then say "This doesn't FEEL like an 800 dollar guitar!" Because, yes, that 800 goes alot further with Ibanez/Epiphone.

edit- Gretsch also has their own goofy reverse strap lock button thing. I don't like it, it slides off for me, and I replace it on all my Gretsch guitars with Schallers. It is more of a pain to replace them than standard strap buttons.

40 OZ fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jan 5, 2015

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Hollis Brownsound
Apr 2, 2009

by Lowtax
I had an Artcore AS200 that I regret selling everyday of drat life. I would really try to learn to like the aesthetic of Ibanez because they are absurdly good for the money. Mine had the super 58 pickups which I loved.

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

Gretsch guitars nowadays are more consistent than they used to be, believe it or not, but whether they're "worth it" is entirely up to you and your subjective experience.

For what it's worth, I didn't like the recent 5420s and 5422s.

Also, unrelated, I scored a '80s Ibanez AD9 for $100. That made my day.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.
After spending the last couple of days checking Craigslist I seen someone selling a Fender Mustang IV amp for $200, which seems like a ridiculously good price for that even considering it's used. He says it comes with the 4 switch footpad. Looking at the pictures it looks like it's kind of beat up and has simultaneously been collecting dust. Should there be any questions I should be asking this guy to gauge if it's still working good? Is there any way to tell at a glance if it's a v1 or a v2?

Edit: I assume ask to see if he still has the software for it too?

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


I love my Gretsch 5620, its a semi hollow body, with a center block that reduces feedback issues. The bridge is not floating like on the full hollow bodies, which is nice. I think it sounds beautiful, and it plays very nicely.

havelock
Jan 20, 2004

IGNORE ME
Soiled Meat
I started looking at hollowbodies and played a few 5420s. Each one was different. The first was so bad that I nearly gave up on them. I've also looked at a Godin, which definitely felt different, but seemed better made. I still haven't decided.

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

I think you can do better used, with vintage thinline hollowbodies out there available for not much more than a new Gretsch 5420. Even old 1960s Harmony Rockets, or Roy Smeck models, and some of the nicer Silvertones, can be around a thousand dollars. Guild Starfire 1's are in the same neighborhood. Or a 1960s Epiphone Sorrento, one of my favorite thinline hollowbodies.

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

DeathSandwich posted:

After spending the last couple of days checking Craigslist I seen someone selling a Fender Mustang IV amp for $200, which seems like a ridiculously good price for that even considering it's used. He says it comes with the 4 switch footpad. Looking at the pictures it looks like it's kind of beat up and has simultaneously been collecting dust. Should there be any questions I should be asking this guy to gauge if it's still working good? Is there any way to tell at a glance if it's a v1 or a v2?

Edit: I assume ask to see if he still has the software for it too?

The v2's have the three white stripes above the knobs with "MUSTANG IV" in the middle stripe, and italic font labels below the knobs. v1's don't have the stripes, and have smaller knob labels above the knobs, with a large "MUSTANG IV" below them.

The software is free on Fender's Fuse website. Not sure how you'd check to see if it's still working other than turning it on and making sure it plays? It's solid-state, with digital emulation, I'd expect it to work, or not. That said, people seem to think the v2's have noticeably better emulated settings.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

40 OZ posted:

It is very expensive for what it is, but a fine guitar. The pickups are quite good now (as compared to the previous electromatic 6120-like). It isn't really worth it to go TV Jones immediately anymore.

The bridge isn't great. You need to locate a good tech. You have to figure out what you want to do with the bridge. I had mine pinned, which is very common, and I'm happy with the results, although the bigsby doesn't like it, because it isn't a roller bridge. You can get a roller bridge, but they are like 75$ and you may need a tech's help.

There are limitations to this, though. If you play with a light touch, you can just intonate it, then mark it somehow, and move on.

Also, don't use light strings. Stick with the factory sizes- the bigsby doesn't play nice with light strings.

I love mine, it is my baby, but do not expect to have your socks knocked off or anything like a CV Tele, and don't buy it and then say "This doesn't FEEL like an 800 dollar guitar!" Because, yes, that 800 goes alot further with Ibanez/Epiphone.

edit- Gretsch also has their own goofy reverse strap lock button thing. I don't like it, it slides off for me, and I replace it on all my Gretsch guitars with Schallers. It is more of a pain to replace them than standard strap buttons.

Okay, lot of good information there, thanks. I am going to look at one tomorrow and just see if I like the feel. The bridge thing is kind of scaring me though. I have a CV Tele and it did not blow my socks off, and after the Epiphone Casino disaster my expectations are pretty drat low.

unlawfulsoup fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jan 6, 2015

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

kjetting posted:

Any tips on setting guitar amp sound for two guitars?
I´ve played guitar in different bands for more than 15 years, but usually in trios where I´ve been the only one on guitar duty. In one of my punk rock bands where I used to play drums we´ve recently decided to include a new drummer, and have two guitars instead. I´ll be playing most of the lead parts, and our old guitarist will stick to rhythm.

Before I offer sage advice... what kind of punk are we talking here?

pointlessone
Aug 6, 2001

The Triad Frog is pleased with this custom title purchase.

I got my guitar fetish scratch and dent today. You can see how awful that tiny freckle near the middle of the top f hole ruins the look to the point of needing a deep discount.

This thing feels stupidly nice for what ended up being a $150 guitar. A friend of mine is already trying to talk me into putting a Bigsby on it. And yes, color wise I'm planning on cross posting into the ugly music thread, because "That looks like what happens after a night of drinking and mint chocolate chip ice cream."

Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret
Get an Xtrem, it'll fit.

faddypaddy
Sep 3, 2011


End of the fiscal year, bitch.
Everyone gets a title or we lose it next year


SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made Prod

pointlessone posted:


I got my guitar fetish scratch and dent today. You can see how awful that tiny freckle near the middle of the top f hole ruins the look to the point of needing a deep discount.

This thing feels stupidly nice for what ended up being a $150 guitar. A friend of mine is already trying to talk me into putting a Bigsby on it. And yes, color wise I'm planning on cross posting into the ugly music thread, because "That looks like what happens after a night of drinking and mint chocolate chip ice cream."

Let me know how this thing plays. I am considering getting a tele from them and the specs vs price seem really good on paper. So I am definitely considering it as an option.

pointlessone
Aug 6, 2001

The Triad Frog is pleased with this custom title purchase.

faddypaddy posted:

Let me know how this thing plays. I am considering getting a tele from them and the specs vs price seem really good on paper. So I am definitely considering it as an option.

I posted a first impressions review in the other thread, I'll repost it here as well.

Bread Dragon posted:

If you could do a more detailed review later, I would really appreciate it. I was looking at the GFS semi-hollows pretty hard a few weeks back, but reviews seemed to lack detail.

I only had about 20 minutes with it before I had to come to work, but a quick tuning after it warmed up gave fairly bright sound without the amp, powerful enough to play without for practicing, and nice, meaty tone once plugged in. They are completely silent, a first for me, as I've only owned single coils before this. The pre installed strings are just awful, though.

Build wise, because I got a factory second I'm not sure if full priced ones will have the same. The finishing around the F holes is pretty rough looking, and there was a significant amount of rubbing compound left on the fret board. Tone and volume pots are solid feeling, and have response with fairly smooth transition instead of all in the last ten percent. Frets aren't awful, but they could be a little smoother. Still better than the razor blade edges coming off some of the other guitars at this price range. Neck feels good, smooth gloss finish on the back which is my personal preference. Intonation was "close enough" out of the box, I'll dig into that one I get home.

Overall, great first impression, I'll give it a good couple hours of play tonight once I get home.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

Schpyder posted:

The v2's have the three white stripes above the knobs with "MUSTANG IV" in the middle stripe, and italic font labels below the knobs. v1's don't have the stripes, and have smaller knob labels above the knobs, with a large "MUSTANG IV" below them.

The software is free on Fender's Fuse website. Not sure how you'd check to see if it's still working other than turning it on and making sure it plays? It's solid-state, with digital emulation, I'd expect it to work, or not. That said, people seem to think the v2's have noticeably better emulated settings.

Knowing that, it looks like he's selling a V1 then. Not sure if that affects how much of a value that's going to be.

Something else I heard mentioned on other forums is the Mustang III and IV v1s have a persistant fizz issue, does anyone know if it's bad enough to warrant it going for so cheap?

My next question then: Is the IV going to be way too big for someone who doesn't gig? Right now it's either me or the girlfriend noodling in the basement and I think a 2x12 is probably going to be way overkill for that sort of thing when I could just hold out for the III in a 1x12 factor and get most of the same controls and USB connectivity.

DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jan 6, 2015

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

DeathSandwich posted:

Knowing that, it looks like he's selling a V1 then. Not sure if that affects how much of a value that's going to be.

Something else I heard mentioned on other forums is the Mustang III and IV v1s have a persistant fizz issue, does anyone know if it's bad enough to warrant it going for so cheap?

My next question then: Is the IV going to be way too big for someone who doesn't gig? Right now it's either me or the girlfriend noodling in the basement and I think a 2x12 is probably going to be way overkill for that sort of thing when I could just hold out for the III in a 1x12 factor and get most of the same controls and USB connectivity.

The fizz issue is kind of overblown. Fender released a firmware to fix it, which worked for a lot of people; a lot of people never had any issue to begin with.

It is all a matter of how much space you have. I have a III and while it is not considered large by amp standard it still takes up a lot of room, the IV is a little larger and adds significantly more weight. The ones I have seen in store seem manageable.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

unlawfulsoup posted:

What are the general feelings on the Gretsch G5420 and G5422TDC? I want a hollowbody, and the Epiphone Casino is the biggest pile of garbage quality wise; so I am avoiding that awful company altogether. I know about Ibanez but most of their offerings look awful to me. I was going to look at the Gretsch's when I got a chance, but I was just wondering if they had problems or should be avoided for some reason.

The Gretschs are fine, in general. I'm not a fan of those pickups and I don't like the redesign for the two models you posted.




Fender accidentally posted some NAMM pics.





Fully hollow Gretsch-ified orange Tele.

Schlieren
Jan 7, 2005

LEZZZZZZZZZBIAN CRUSH
:barf:

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Didn't they have that at last year's NAMM?

Hollis Brownsound
Apr 2, 2009

by Lowtax
Anyone have any good tips for not gripping so hard while playing?

When I practice or play country/jazz/blues my technique is good and I play really lightly, but If I play rock/Hendrixy stuff my fingers are fatigued in just a few minutes

Pondex
Jul 8, 2014

HollisBrown posted:

Anyone have any good tips for not gripping so hard while playing?

When I practice or play country/jazz/blues my technique is good and I play really lightly, but If I play rock/Hendrixy stuff my fingers are fatigued in just a few minutes

I wrote a little reminder to myself. I find it also adds a bit of mojo to my playing.

Hollis Brownsound
Apr 2, 2009

by Lowtax

Pondex posted:

I wrote a little reminder to myself. I find it also adds a bit of mojo to my playing.



Obligatory "That's what she said"

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Reminders are good. For me, I focus on playing with the absolute minimal amount of pressure required for the note to not buzz. Take individual licks and play them note by note, focusing on your pressure. It's mental/muscle memory thing. If you know you don't want to play that hard and know that you don't need to, all you can do is train your hands. Using very light strings will punish you for playing hard as your intonation will be affected by even the lightest amount of extra pressure.

kjetting
Jan 18, 2004

Hammer Time

After The War posted:

Before I offer sage advice... what kind of punk are we talking here?

The kind that goes way too fast

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay

kjetting posted:

The kind that goes way too fast

gibson into a marshall. done.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン

Pondex posted:

I wrote a little reminder to myself. I find it also adds a bit of mojo to my playing.



hagstrom?

Lil Miss Clackamas
Jan 25, 2013

ich habe aids
Anyone know anything about Les Paul Recording models? The reissues, not the vintage ones. They look and sound pretty sick on YouTube, but I've never seen one in person.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
I think the new ones actually have high-impedence pickups instead of the original's low-z ones, or at least has a better impedence transformer, so it's not as much of a crapshoot for plugging into amps as the old ones.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Recently I've been using tutorial sites like AskVideo/MacProVideo for learning new production and synthesis techniques, and I find that I learn really well from that kind of setup. Since I don't have a consistent schedule, taking lessons has always been a headache, since I either end up having to skip a ton or do them at weird times when I'm not totally receptive to information. So are there any sites, paid or otherwise, that people really recommend for video tutorials on guitar techniques? Besides Justin Guitar, that is, I know about that one. I did a google search, but the number of samey-looking sites you get is staggering. The only one I had recommended to me so far was Guitar Master Class, and that was by a non-guitarist.

Lil Miss Clackamas
Jan 25, 2013

ich habe aids

muike posted:

I think the new ones actually have high-impedence pickups instead of the original's low-z ones, or at least has a better impedence transformer, so it's not as much of a crapshoot for plugging into amps as the old ones.

Actually I just read that it has a toggle switch between high-z and low-z, so the best of both worlds!

Pondex
Jul 8, 2014

muike posted:

hagstrom?

Yeah. The Viking P-90.

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention

HollisBrown posted:

Anyone have any good tips for not gripping so hard while playing?

When I practice or play country/jazz/blues my technique is good and I play really lightly, but If I play rock/Hendrixy stuff my fingers are fatigued in just a few minutes

The way I do it is to have my thumb only just touching the back of the neck, and any pressure from my fingers comes from pulling my arm back away from the neck. Not sure if I described that in an understandable way, but it greatly reduces my fatigue.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


I'm interested in getting a tele, probably a Squier CV or a VM thinline. I haven't had a chance to play one, though I've played a few made-in-Mexico teles and some American ones that I can't afford. I like the tele neck and it seems pretty versatile. Is there a major step down in quality between a made-in-Mexico tele that retails for about $500 and the CVs? Is there a significant sound difference between the thinline and the standard?

R.D. Mangles fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Jan 7, 2015

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

comes along bort posted:

Didn't they have that at last year's NAMM?

They did. loving zombie thread at TGP. :(

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Kilometers Davis posted:

Reminders are good. For me, I focus on playing with the absolute minimal amount of pressure required for the note to not buzz. Take individual licks and play them note by note, focusing on your pressure. It's mental/muscle memory thing. If you know you don't want to play that hard and know that you don't need to, all you can do is train your hands. Using very light strings will punish you for playing hard as your intonation will be affected by even the lightest amount of extra pressure.
I usually worry more about how I'm articulating things and poo poo like finger pressure follows from that, rather than focusing on finger pressure by itself. When I'm first learning something, particularly if it has a lot of tricky fingering or involves weird-rear end chords I don't use a lot or something like that, I end up sorta pouncing from one position to the next. But that's all part of learning a new piece. Once I have the mechanical part down, then I spend less time thinking about getting from position A to position B and more time thinking about where I'm going to put emphasis, varying where a note lands on the beat, or whatever the gently caress. And then I'm paying more attention to listening to myself and then all the janky poo poo that comes out of just trying to mechanically go through the motions takes care of itself---because if you've got the instrument in a deathgrip you're going to hear it even before you feel it.

I don't know if that's helpful at all as general advice or whatever, but I find that this is true for every instrument I play, not just guitar.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-WAu_SqWs


What's she playing here?

kjetting
Jan 18, 2004

Hammer Time
Thanks for the help, guys. We have a rehearsal today, and I will try the scooped rhythm guitar and more midtone on the lead. As I´ve stated before, I have played in bands for more than 15 years, but having two guitars in a band is pretty new to me. We had a fiddle in my last band, but never another guitar.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
Been wanting that offset body style for a while after the Bass VI I had a little bit ago.

Seen these on clearance plus a holiday sale, so grabbed a Telemaster for $150 new.


Going to toss my new Squier VM Jazzmaster neck on it :fap:



Always wanted to try the mini-hum in the neck and don't have a Tele style bridge on anything in the house. Should fix both those issues.

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention

Sockington posted:

Been wanting that offset body style for a while after the Bass VI I had a little bit ago.

Seen these on clearance plus a holiday sale, so grabbed a Telemaster for $150 new.


Going to toss my new Squier VM Jazzmaster neck on it :fap:



Always wanted to try the mini-hum in the neck and don't have a Tele style bridge on anything in the house. Should fix both those issues.

Get block inlay stickers and put them on the JM neck :colbert:

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Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

TopherCStone posted:

Get block inlay stickers and put them on the JM neck :colbert:

Are they actually useable? I loving love block inlays.

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