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Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

Ceciltron posted:

Small and even medium scale farming of the type that is being sacrificed for infill and residential developments are sources of jobs and food.

Small and medium scale farming are being sacrificed for large-scale farming, which is significantly more efficient. I grew up on a relatively small farm and my dad didn't have enough sense to sell it before he went bankrupt from trying to compete with guys with up to 50% lower operating costs. Farmland in general is being absorbed by cities but it's not targeting small farmers disproportionately.

EvilJoven posted:

Hahaha I grew up in Northern Ontario and spend a ton of time outdoors and only a few months after moving to Winnipeg I end up literally being chased out of the woods and back to my car by insects. First time that's ever happened to me.

Now I own a full bug suit.

gently caress Manitoba mosquitoes.

Better than blackflies

Cultural Imperial posted:

lol go choke on bay area fog

e: while we're on the subject, I find that taxes in amerikkka are just as high as in Canada and that's with WA having no income tax. What's it like in kkkalifornia?

You're just not cheating the systemoptimizing your tax strategy properly.

2 + 2 = 5 posted:

You can rent a 1 bedroom 3rd floor walkup in Limoilou (10 minute walk to old Quebec/downtown) for 5-600/mo. The priciest accommodations you can find in town are like $800-1000/mo for a ridiculously beautiful 1 bedroom. Steps to great nightlife. Eat pork and veal from Charlevoix. Pay gouge prices for wine. Drink malty rear end beer. J'aime Quebec.

I'd love Quebec if it wasn't full of French people and wasn't so loving cold all the time

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blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

Cultural Imperial posted:

lol go choke on bay area fog

e: while we're on the subject, I find that taxes in amerikkka are just as high as in Canada and that's with WA having no income tax. What's it like in kkkalifornia?

I think taxes in California are not that different than taxes in, say, BC (although I was a student every year I filed taxes in BC so ...). But WA seems like it should be a fair bit cheaper. After some quick googling, a single person making 150k in WA will have an overall tax rate of around 26.5% (assume no 401k/RRSP deductions). For someone in BC the number is around 30.5%. In California it's about 31.5%. Since the USD is worth more than the CAD this slightly overestimates the effective tax rate of WA/CA; someone making the equivalent of USD 150k in CAD in BC would have an overall tax rate of around 33%.

In Quebec it's 37% (39% adjusted for CAD/USD), and you actually pay more provincial tax than federal tax.

e: this calculation is wrong because I forgot to account for Social Security/Medicare, which is another ~5% for someone in the income range we're talking about. So BC probably has marginally lower taxes in that income range.

blah_blah fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Jan 20, 2015

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

The difference is that you can throw a stone in SF and hit a twenty something software developer making 150k.

You're going to be throwing a lot more stones anywhere in Canada.

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

shrike82 posted:

The difference is that you can throw a stone in SF and hit a twenty something software developer making 150k.

You're going to be throwing a lot more stones anywhere in Canada.

Yeah, we both realize that. But I think a lot of people would be surprised to hear that CoL in SF is often about twice as high as CoL in Vancouver or Toronto and that taxes are comparable. That just turns out to not matter very much when you're making 200k USD instead of 90k CAD.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Regarding yesterday's inflation chat:

https://twitter.com/MikePMoffatt/status/552799364692070400?s=09

10 year bond yields are at 1.69% which indicates that people buying these things don't think interest rates will be going up any time soon, peace be unto him in the name of Allah.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Kalenn Istarion posted:

I'd love Quebec if it wasn't full of French people and wasn't so loving cold all the time

If Quebec weren't full of French people you'd be astounded to find it entirely identical to Ontario in every way.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

shrike82 posted:

The difference is that you can throw a stone in SF and hit a twenty something software developer making 150k.

You're going to be throwing a lot more stones anywhere in Canada.

Yeah it's the hilarious thing about startup center wannabe Vancouver.

You have sky high housing costs(~1 million CAD for a detached crackhouse) but on the flip side there's a lack of sky high compensation for tech jobs/much lower salaries in general.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

etalian posted:

Yeah it's the hilarious thing about startup center wannabe Vancouver.

You have sky high housing costs(~1 million CAD for a detached crackhouse) but on the flip side there's a lack of sky high compensation for tech jobs/much lower salaries in general.

Yup. Unless you have a really, really good reason to need to be in Vancouver, you're crazy to stay here if you're in tech.

That's the big paradox of Vancouver - the sky high costs coupled with the low income opportunities. I'm fine with any one of those and the opposite of the other. But both is intractable.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

etalian posted:

Yeah it's the hilarious thing about startup center wannabe Vancouver.

You have sky high housing costs(~1 million CAD for a detached crackhouse) but on the flip side there's a lack of sky high compensation for tech jobs/much lower salaries in general.

Do you know how much (potential) income a person can make "building equity" for a living? A tech worker might get the instant gratification of a 100k a year salary but investing in a couple vancouver condos will net you double your purchase price in a decade or less all for literally no work at all, and all while someone else pays your mortgage. Only idiots actually work, the idea economy would be 100% realestate speculation based, like a giant human housing centipede.

2 + 2 = 5
Apr 11, 2003
I find it decidedly INCONVENIENT that the gun was never found.

Kalenn Istarion posted:

I'd love Quebec if it wasn't full of French people and wasn't so loving cold all the time
Maybe French people aren't nice to you because you seem to have racist jerk attitudes towards them?

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Kalenn Istarion posted:

I'd love Quebec if it wasn't full of French people and wasn't so loving cold all the time

Congratulations, you have the exact same opinion as my 85 year old grandma who has lived in Montreal her entire life.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.
Quebec is basically the only reason Canada has any semblance of a culture at all. Otherwise it'd be an expensive northern Minnesota.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
I wish the French had won the east and the Spanish the west. The country would be so much less lovely culturally. :(

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Rime posted:

I wish the French had won the east and the Spanish the west. The country would be so much less lovely culturally. :(

Whatever dominant culture would have emerged would have been bland and boring to us. It's better off this way.

French Canadian
Feb 23, 2004

Fluffy cat sensory experience

Rime posted:

I wish the French had won the east and the Spanish the west. The country would be so much less lovely culturally. :(

I wish the native Americans had won, honestly.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
I wish the vikings had intermarried with the natives and created a powerful seafaring nation.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

French Canadian posted:

I wish the native Americans had won, honestly.

We just needed the Aztecs to steal seafaring boat technology from the Norse, travel to Iberia by the Atlantic Ocean, crush Western Europe, retreat back to North America and everything would have been fine.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Real talk: all y'all fuckers bad mouthing the francophones of Quebec have no loving clue how awesome the French are now compared to the last referendum.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Ceciltron posted:

I wish the vikings had intermarried with the natives and created a powerful seafaring nation.

We'd be drowning in that sweet sweet Scandinavian socialism! And we could acquire surstromming for pranks! :v:

Baudin
Dec 31, 2009

Ceciltron posted:

I wish the vikings had intermarried with the natives and created a powerful seafaring nation.

French Canadian posted:

I wish the native Americans had won, honestly.

Reasons to play Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4 respectively. (though you would have to mod the natives into CK2 sadly)

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Baudin posted:

Reasons to play Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4 respectively. (though you would have to mod the natives into CK2 sadly)

Not if you have Sunset invasion.

Baudin
Dec 31, 2009

computer parts posted:

Not if you have Sunset invasion.

Touche, I haven't played CK2 much lately. Though it doesn't give you access to North America, just the advanced Aztecs invading Europe with guns etc.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Baudin posted:

Touche, I haven't played CK2 much lately. Though it doesn't give you access to North America, just the advanced Aztecs invading Europe with guns etc.

And if you import it to EU4 the Natives don't get handicapped by the tech tree like normal.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Cultural Imperial posted:

Real talk: all y'all fuckers bad mouthing the francophones of Quebec have no loving clue how awesome the French are now compared to the last referendum.

I feel like some people just smack talk the french out of habit and history, not from their own experiences.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

triplexpac posted:

I feel like some people just smack talk the french out of habit and history, not from their own experiences.

Or envy, there's this whole rad province that they can't succeed in because they're a linguistic outsider.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

triplexpac posted:

I feel like some people just smack talk the french out of habit and history, not from their own experiences.

Totally. I'd be willing to bet an enormous percentage of non-Quebecer Canadians have never even been to Quebec - thanks in part to the insane cost of east-west travel compared to North-south.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Baronjutter posted:

Or envy, there's this whole rad province that they can't succeed in because they're a linguistic outsider.

New Brunswick truly is an insular place.

Baudin
Dec 31, 2009
Or we read stories of French language laws, mafia gangs, and other ridiculous news items and are guided by them.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

Baudin posted:

Or we read stories of French language laws, mafia gangs, and other ridiculous news items and are guided by them.

Which are by and large, irrelevant in this day and age. Francophone montrealers are really nice people.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Cultural Imperial posted:

Francophone montrealers are really nice people.

Oh, my, no they aren't. Montrealers are assholes, Francophones from the rest of the province (especially Quebec City) were always way, way friendlier in my experience. Downtown Montreal had the highest concentration of assholes (both English and French, to be honest) I've experienced anywhere in the world, but to be honest as soon as you made it to the more outlying areas of the city. people were very pleasant.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Just because no one would bulldog with you at McGill

:qq:

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

PT6A posted:

Oh, my, no they aren't. Montrealers are assholes, Francophones from the rest of the province (especially Quebec City) were always way, way friendlier in my experience. Downtown Montreal had the highest concentration of assholes (both English and French, to be honest) I've experienced anywhere in the world, but to be honest as soon as you made it to the more outlying areas of the city. people were very pleasant.

You're delusional. People from the West Island/South/North/West Shores are infinitely less hospitable than just about everyone I've met downtown in the time I've lived and worked there.

Now, if you get out of the city, to the small towns, and you try to communicate in French, even if poorly, you'll get a very friendly reception.

Baudin
Dec 31, 2009

Cultural Imperial posted:

Which are by and large, irrelevant in this day and age.
Totally irrelevant.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/02/27/facebook-bill-101_n_4866261.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-police-raids-31-alleged-mafia-members-arrested-1.2673070

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Cultural Imperial posted:

Which are by and large, irrelevant in this day and age. Francophone montrealers are really nice people.

I see from your choice of words you also had the full West Island experience.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

Kalenn Istarion posted:


I'd love Quebec if it wasn't full of French people and wasn't so loving cold all the time

There's a lot of places in Canada that are worse for cold- see Manitoba, or my province, Saskatchewan (-40 today gently caress this place, why are housing prices so high in this frozen loving tundra).

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Cultural Imperial posted:

Regarding yesterday's inflation chat:

https://twitter.com/MikePMoffatt/status/552799364692070400?s=09

10 year bond yields are at 1.69% which indicates that people buying these things don't think interest rates will be going up any time soon, peace be unto him in the name of Allah.
Apparently keeping interest rates low by propping up demand for bonds by purchasing your own issued debt doesn't phase other bond purchasers due to their contractual obligation to purchase a certain amount of AAA debt (de facto US). Which means that the fed has a fun way to keep interest rates artificially low. I assume this means people expect QE to continue.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

urf posted:

This is patently untrue. I just had to go through a case of this last year and our landlord tried raising our rent by 6.9% above the guideline (and they wanted higher but the board didn't grant them) spread over 3 years because somehow they had managed to get 3 projects with overlapping starting/completion dates due to some technical fuckery. They would have got the entire amount in the first hearing if they hadn't hosed up the notice list. We managed to get a paralegal for the next round but we only got 1.1% knocked off and the spread went 1.9-1.9-1.8 for 3 years. And we were *lucky* according to our paralegal. Stupidly high above guideline increases have become much more common.

Maybe it has become more common, I know when my ex-landlord tried to jack rates like 4 years ago now we destroyed them because of outstanding maintenance issues and they couldn't justfy the higher rent due to current rent being inline with the market (this is the most important part).

Also I just found out that people are paying the same in rent or less in my development as I pay in my mortgage/condo fees

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
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Dreylad posted:

I see from your choice of words you also had the full West Island experience.

I went to a private high school in the West Island and I literally have a set of nasty prejudices and chip on my shoulder that resulted from it. It takes active work not to hate pretty much every single upper-middle class uni-lingual anglophone as the bigoted, racist and privileged dickhole they are.

sat on my keys!
Oct 2, 2014

Ceciltron posted:

I went to a private high school in the West Island and I literally have a set of nasty prejudices and chip on my shoulder that resulted from it. It takes active work not to hate pretty much every single upper-middle class uni-lingual anglophone as the bigoted, racist and privileged dickhole they are.

I would be a better person if my parents had sent me to Ottawa's extremely good public schools rather than essentially setting money on fire. Is the point of these intellectually mediocre private schools to try and turn a person into a National Post reader?

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Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
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bartlebyshop posted:

I would be a better person if my parents had sent me to Ottawa's extremely good public schools rather than essentially setting money on fire. Is the point of these intellectually mediocre private schools to try and turn a person into a National Post reader?
A bunch of my fellow students from that school now occupy patronage positions in the provincial liberals, as well!

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