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Lt. Commander Data posted:"Work at Legal Aid," they said. "Help the poor," they said. "Explain the parental presumption to a client and then have your glasses broken after they slap your in the face with their bible to cast out your demons," they didn't say. Wow. Really? I mean, getting hit is one thing...but the added "with a bible" just makes this beautiful.
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Lt. Commander Data posted:"Work at Legal Aid," they said. "Help the poor," they said. "Explain the parental presumption to a client and then have your glasses broken after they slap your in the face with their bible to cast out your demons," they didn't say. This is why I deal with criminals.
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Do US schools do R v Brown? English law its 1L crim, & I think just about everyone is trigged by descriptions of people getting their dicks nailed to furniture, lol.
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Zarkov Cortez posted:This is why I deal with criminals. I get court appointed to help criminals get away with crime-type things sometimes. Generally speaking they are much more gracious, civil and enjoyable to work with than pro bono legal aid referrals
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Rolled Cabbage posted:Do US schools do R v Brown? English law its 1L crim, & I think just about everyone is trigged by descriptions of people getting their dicks nailed to furniture, lol. Nothing that interesting, unfortunately. Closest we get to that is someone bringing up the movie Fight Club.
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Soothing Vapors posted:I get court appointed to help criminals get away with crime-type things sometimes. Generally speaking they are much more gracious, civil and enjoyable to work with than pro bono legal aid referrals My favorite pro bono case was a restraining order against an ex-boyfriend. Before I left firm life I did civil work for big companies almost exclusively in federal court, so obviously I never spent much time in court. The abused spouse/gf pro bono gigs were usually slam dunks because the abuser never had representation and would either sign a consent order or just not show up at all. Until the one time the drug-dealer ex-bf shows up with his criminal lawyer and doesn't want to consent to the restraining order because his grandmother lives nextdoor to the ex-gf. There was a mighty battle, but I was triumphant, and then the sweet, attractive, poorly educated, ex-gf suggested we hang out sometime and I briefly glimpsed the dark path that laid before me. I did not take it, but in some alternative Slider universe - I did. I hope Alternate-HR is living out some sort of Heisenberg-esque life that all started with that step.
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Soothing Vapors posted:I get court appointed to help criminals get away with crime-type things sometimes. Generally speaking they are much more gracious, civil and enjoyable to work with than pro bono legal aid referrals I was talking about this with a colleague recently who also used to work for a Legal Aid. My worst indigent criminal client has nothing on my worst Legal Aid client. Personally, I think it's because Legal Aid clients often don't have a lot of skin in the game and treat their civil cases as some sort of lotto ticket. When you're facing prison time, you have a lot more incentive to try and cooperate with your attorney. Edit: HiddenReplaced posted:There was a mighty battle, but I was triumphant, and then the sweet, attractive, poorly educated, ex-gf suggested we hang out sometime and I briefly glimpsed the dark path that laid before me. I'm sure she would not be the first client in history to show her appreciation on "the Couch of Restitution." GamingHyena fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Jan 7, 2015 04:20
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HiddenReplaced posted:My favorite pro bono case was a restraining order against an ex-boyfriend. Before I left firm life I did civil work for big companies almost exclusively in federal court, so obviously I never spent much time in court. The abused spouse/gf pro bono gigs were usually slam dunks because the abuser never had representation and would either sign a consent order or just not show up at all. Now tell the one about the girl who got her lean on against your desk your 2L summer. TELL THAT ONE.
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White shoe big law blows. In other news, water is wet. Details at 11. In more important news, I have 2 oral arguments this month and still managed to beat mass effect in a week. Priorities.
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ActusRhesus posted:White shoe big law blows. In other news, water is wet. Details at 11. Your kids are basically orphans though
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ActusRhesus posted:White shoe big law blows. In other news, water is wet. Details at 11. As long as you had blue space elf sex.
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Have any of you used Post-9/11 GI Bill Benefits to pay for law school? After I finish undergrad this spring, I'll still have about 3 months of benefits to use. Does anyone have an idea of if that'll pay for at least a year based on the theory that if you have even a day left, the VA is known to pay for an entire semester?
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I am playing ME 3, doing Renegade femshep first.MoFauxHawk posted:This person probably hears this kind of thing all the time though. For you it's a few seconds of your life and the joke is new to you, for her it's annoying, even if it's only being said about her and not being said to her directly in this case. This is p legit but to bring it to the big picture I know a guy who calls a girl working in the same office "the black widow" because, get this, her husband died (this is said behind her back, of course, as is the fashion here). So there's a definite scale between "microaggressions" or whatever the kids call it and "being a sack of poo poo."
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Toona the Cat posted:Have any of you used Post-9/11 GI Bill Benefits to pay for law school? After I finish undergrad this spring, I'll still have about 3 months of benefits to use. Does anyone have an idea of if that'll pay for at least a year based on the theory that if you have even a day left, the VA is known to pay for an entire semester? I'm using it now. Three months will probably only get you one semester. Do you have any service connected disability? If so, you may be eligible for vocational rehab. Voc rehab will pay for your school and then some and will provide a monthly stipend as well even though it is a bit less than the 9-11 BAH. Go down to GiP and check out the education resource thread. There's a lot of good info in there.
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HiddenReplaced posted:My favorite pro bono case was a restraining order against an ex-boyfriend. Before I left firm life I did civil work for big companies almost exclusively in federal court, so obviously I never spent much time in court. The abused spouse/gf pro bono gigs were usually slam dunks because the abuser never had representation and would either sign a consent order or just not show up at all. While I would hate to actually practice family law, we were retained to contest a protection order that a client's ex's girlfriend got against her. The order was obtained ex parte, the protected person lived in a different province, and the order was basically being used to prevent the client from seeing her extended family. The other lawyer was a former criminal defence lawyer. We got the order dropped after a couple court appearances, and charging a lot of money. Another client (non-criminal) was contesting a protection order that her ex got against her. The client's ex was charged with assaulting her a couple days before they got the protection order (also ex parte) but conveniently omitted that in their application. Moral of the story is protection orders == $$$$ Zarkov Cortez fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Your kids are basically orphans though kid. Singular. And you shut your wordhole. The cat is a great babysitter. Seriously, though, if my not-yet-two year old's documented "fake crying" rehearsal time while at daycare and ability to condescendingly correct her daycare teachers when they screw up the requisite nursery song hand gestures isn't proof of my clear maternal bond and influence, I don't know what is. As for the obsession with pulling fingernails and making stuffed animals assume stress positions...that I blame on my husband. Probably. In retrospect, nicknaming her "Al-Shababy" was probably a mistake. Seriously though, gaming can be a great bonding experience...give the kid an unconnected wireless keyboard and let them "help." And make up fun songs while you play. Last night it was: The eensy weensy sniper goes through the maintenance shaft Out come the geth to launch a sneak attack Boom go grenades and headshots, one two three and mommy's little sniper just saved the galaxy. I should probably start setting aside money for therapists now, shouldn't I? ActusRhesus fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Toona the Cat posted:Have any of you used Post-9/11 GI Bill Benefits to pay for law school? After I finish undergrad this spring, I'll still have about 3 months of benefits to use. Does anyone have an idea of if that'll pay for at least a year based on the theory that if you have even a day left, the VA is known to pay for an entire semester? some states also let vets who are residents attend public universities for free. May be worth moving, working for a year to set up residency, and then doing that.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'm using it now. Three months will probably only get you one semester. Do you have any service connected disability? If so, you may be eligible for vocational rehab. Voc rehab will pay for your school and then some and will provide a monthly stipend as well even though it is a bit less than the 9-11 BAH. Go down to GiP and check out the education resource thread. There's a lot of good info in there. No, no disability. ActusRhesus posted:some states also let vets who are residents attend public universities for free. May be worth moving, working for a year to set up residency, and then doing that. Intriguing. I may have to look into this.
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ActusRhesus posted:I should probably start setting aside money for therapists now, shouldn't I?
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Soothing Vapors posted:Depends. Do you make her watch as you get down with Liara (or whoever is fuckable in ME3, I haven't played it yet) no...that happens after bedtime. Which luckily is early for toddlers.
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ActusRhesus posted:no...that happens after bedtime. Which luckily is early for toddlers. gently caress yeah it is. When I get home it's basically a rush to see how fast my kid wears out so I can do adult things, like drink beer and watch survivor and crochet.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/connecticut-teen-with-cancer-battles-state-to-stop-chemo/ After watching video of mom and her views on "putting poison into your body" http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mother-of-connecticut-teen-forced-to-undergo-chemotherapy-speaks-out/ I'm inclined to think the phrase "knowing and informed" will be at the crux of this decision. Hot Dog Day #91 posted:gently caress yeah it is. When I get home it's basically a rush to see how fast my kid wears out so I can do adult things, like drink beer and watch survivor and crochet. Are you female? If so, *fist to chest* solidarity. Let's talk about girl poo poo! If not, *pfft* what are you, my grandma?
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ActusRhesus posted:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/connecticut-teen-with-cancer-battles-state-to-stop-chemo/ Precedent also favors treatment. Kids that are Jehovah's Witness cannot refuse blood transfusions if they are life saving. Hodgkin's lymphoma has gone from universally fatal to a point where there is a cure rate approaching 80+%. Are there side effects? Sure you will have complications from the treatment like nerve damage in the affected area but you'd have to argue that living with that is worse than death.
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Nope, I'm a male. I also don't crochet, but my wife does a lot.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Nope, I'm a male. I also don't crochet, but my wife does a lot. *nods* you're free to go, sir.
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My principal is muttering over the fact that a family law trial that was scheduled for next week got adjourned until May because the Respondent shot himself in the head last month. He survived, but he was ruled to be incompetent. My principal told me that he "strenuously objected to the adjournment." That's what happens when you do family law for thirty years I suppose.
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"Your honor, I know that during my plea canvass I was explicitly told I was waiving any ability to litigate this issue, and the PD's office filed a brief saying there is no merit...but I want to bring it anyway...and if you don't hear me, and dismiss my case even though I'm already convicted and this is a motion to correct my sentence, then I will sue you." That was my day.
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ActusRhesus posted:"Your honor, I know that during my plea canvass I was explicitly told I was waiving any ability to litigate this issue, and the PD's office filed a brief saying there is no merit...but I want to bring it anyway...and if you don't hear me, and dismiss my case even though I'm already convicted and this is a motion to correct my sentence, then I will sue you." I sort of enjoy it when random people threaten to sue me as if the very idea of a lawsuit will make me buckle and do whatever it is they want that day. We're a law firm, what is it they think we do here?
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ActusRhesus posted:The eensy weensy sniper goes through the maintenance shaft
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evilweasel posted:I sort of enjoy it when random people threaten to sue me as if the very idea of a lawsuit will make me buckle and do whatever it is they want that day. We're a law firm, what is it they think we do here? I had someone threaten a grievance against me out the blue because I took a contingency fee (which is a valid method of payment) in her case a year ago. I told one of the other attorneys I office with and he told me "poo poo. I was wondering what that'd happen. If you don't get a grievance against you every three years, you're not practicing law."
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ActusRhesus posted:The eensy weensy sniper goes through the maintenance shaft This is not getting nearly enough love.
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Lote posted:Precedent also favors treatment. Kids that are Jehovah's Witness cannot refuse blood transfusions if they are life saving. Hodgkin's lymphoma has gone from universally fatal to a point where there is a cure rate approaching 80+%. Are there side effects? Sure you will have complications from the treatment like nerve damage in the affected area but you'd have to argue that living with that is worse than death. Just had a decision in Ontario. Judge held that refusing treatment in favour of traditional Aboriginal medicine (in this case, treatment at a Florida massage studio for leukemia) fell under s35 of the Constitution Act, 1982 as an Aboriginal Right. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life...rticle21587859/ One of my professors was on tv discussing it shortly after http://tvo.org/video/208904/treating-aboriginal-rights - he's just been appointed to the Ontario Court of Appeal.
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Got a call today and set up an interview to work as a summer clerk for a Federal judge as an externship. Interview is this coming Monday. Just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm a 1L, it's a district with a mix of cities and rural areas but the district is predominantly lower-middle class. I spoke with one of the judge's 3 clerks today and apparently all four (the clerks plus the judge) will be sitting in on the interview. My feeling is because I'm a 1L and this is only a summer externship it will mostly come down to whether they feel they can put up with me for a summer (they will have already read my writing sample) but I just don't know. Any advice or anecdotes are helpful.
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Pook Good Mook posted:I'm hesitant to even mention this but I too will be starting law school within a month. UIowa with a full tuition scholarship and a paid research position in years 2 and 3. And not that it matters but yes, I have a relative who is a partner at a respected law firm. So you had a good first half of 1L then? Does anyone think he's better off trying to get work from his partner uncle or externing with the judge? I'm curious (pook I assume your goals are biglaw). Hot Dog Day #91 fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:So you had a good first half of 1L then? Actually I'd like to do government work after school if I could. The only favors I'm calling in from my Uncle are contacts of the people who matter (the ones that hire summer interns) for government and city jobs he knows of. My Uncle isn't in a "biglaw" firm and honestly I'm happy to let everyone else compete for those jobs. The major reason I chose Iowa was cost; I have the luxury of being more flexible with my employment than people with huge debt. A few people have said on here that hiring committees for public work care most whether you have actually walked the walk and aren't just looking for good benefits so I'm primarily looking for government work. This does mean I won't get paid which isn't ideal obviously but since I can count most of the opportunities as externships and get credit for them it softens the blow.
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Pook Good Mook posted:Actually I'd like to do government work after school if I could. The only favors I'm calling in from my Uncle are contacts of the people who matter (the ones that hire summer interns) for government and city jobs he knows of. My Uncle isn't in a "biglaw" firm and honestly I'm happy to let everyone else compete for those jobs. The major reason I chose Iowa was cost; I have the luxury of being more flexible with my employment than people with huge debt. A few people have said on here that hiring committees for public work care most whether you have actually walked the walk and aren't just looking for good benefits so I'm primarily looking for government work. This does mean I won't get paid which isn't ideal obviously but since I can count most of the opportunities as externships and get credit for them it softens the blow. What kind of government work do you intend to do?
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GamingHyena posted:What kind of government work do you intend to do? Criminal if possible but I'm more than happy to clerk after school for the experience. I've only just started so I'm trying to keep an open mind but in my previous employment all I did was help out unappreciative rich shitheads who then tried to cheap out on the costs. I'm not really too enamored with working with people like that again so if it is going to be private sector I'd like it to be mid-size or smaller and it would be nice to litigate. Again, this is all pie in the sky and I'm both trying to keep an open mind and also get a varied background before I graduate. Which is one of the reasons I think a summer clerkship would be a great opportunity.
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Pook Good Mook posted:Got a call today and set up an interview to work as a summer clerk for a Federal judge as an externship. Interview is this coming Monday. The best advice for judicial internships/externships - work your rear end off. I know you're signing up for like 150 hrs for 3 credits or something like that, but if you show up 40 hrs a week all summer and actually produce bench memos like the judge's clerk, your experience will be much better. Not only will you actually learn something, but you have a chance to make a good impression on the judge. Most interns are completely useless - it takes more time to fix what you write than it does to do it fresh. Judges have interns as a form of charity, with a possible lucky chance that they're useful. Accordingly, judges and/or clerks give interns tiny and crap projects at first, so that you don't screw up something important, and so they can figure out if you're useful. If you're good, you get more important projects. But that means you have to be spend enough time there to complete the project. Why does this matter? One, I learned way more about doing anything in my internships than in any of my law school classes. Two, judges are insanely connected. Legal communities are tiny, tiny, tiny and a judge can open doors you don't even know exist. Want to do a clerkship? If the other judge is local I guarantee they'll call to ask if you're any good. Or the current clerks will gossip about whether you're any good. Want to work at a firm? If your judge likes you they can put in a good word or steer you to the right place. (Just don't be presumptuous about asking - ask more generally about "advice on applying to firms")
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