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I watched Den-O through TV-N before I really knew much about the wider fan subbing community. I can see how they're flawed and how people take sides, but it's really not worth going to insults over it.
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Literally The Worst posted:And this is why you're dumb. Seriously, I've been trying to have a civil discussion. I've stated my case, and even explicitly said that I can totally see/agree with the opposing argument. Stop being a dick for no reason.
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Jan 7, 2015 23:14
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jivjov posted:Seriously, I've been trying to have a civil discussion. I've stated my case, and even explicitly said that I can totally see/agree with the opposing argument. Stop being a dick for no reason. I have plenty of reason. The reason is you have dumb opinions that are wrong and facilitate idiots like TVN.
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Jan 7, 2015 23:36
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Look I totally get why it's lazy garbage but I still want it to happen. Don't make fun of me though I'll get my boxers in a wad and cry about it.
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Jan 7, 2015 23:37
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Literally The Worst posted:I have plenty of reason. The reason is you have dumb opinions that are wrong and facilitate idiots like TVN. Literally The Worst posted:Look I totally get why it's lazy garbage but I still want it to happen. Don't make fun of me though I'll get my boxers in a wad and cry about it. I'm getting frustrated because you've taken it upon yourself to personally attack me, rather than my argument. Yes, I can understand why someone would want the honorifics translated and relationships contextualized rather than revealed via forms of address, and I have no real problem with O-T and other sub groups removing them. But I personally, as someone who understands enough about Japanese culture to get the nuance, appreciate having the honorifics in the subtitles, as I often don't catch them aurally (at least on first watching). And I really don't see how "having an opinion" facilitates TVN, especially since I've also pointed out the other flaws of TVN's work. They just happen to do one thing I appreciate.
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Jan 7, 2015 23:49
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Your argument is dumb and so are you.
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Jan 7, 2015 23:52
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I agree with jivjov. I think honorifics are pretty cool and personally prefer them, but also get why others would rather they not be included.
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Jan 8, 2015 00:05
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WickedHate posted:I agree with jivjov. I think honorifics are pretty cool and personally prefer them, but also get why others would rather they not be included. You're also an idiot though.
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Jan 8, 2015 00:19
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You know what's great? Having things obfuscated behind a language that the viewer doesn't speak. Really makes translating shows worthwhile - a smart opinion held by smart people
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Jan 8, 2015 00:20
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So you really like to live up to your own user name and also double post, 'eh? OK cool. You keep doin what you're doing I'm sure it'll work wonders for you in the long run.
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Jan 8, 2015 00:46
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Burkion posted:So you really like to live up to your own user name and also double post, 'eh? Oh no people with bad opinions don't like me whatver shall I dooooooo
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Jan 8, 2015 01:22
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You seem like an awful pleasant guy.
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Jan 8, 2015 01:25
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Waffleman_ posted:No, TVN called them Braves. There was a whole onoretvn post about how it was actually kinda unintentionally offensive.
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Jan 8, 2015 01:27
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I thought that all the posts in the thread meant everyone had come around to admitting that ToQGer is amazing and maybe better then Kyoryuger. I was wrong Zedd posted:Somebody explain this one to me please, genuine question. (European here) Native American Warriors were called Braves, off of the French Bravo. I think. That was how it was explained to me when I asked about the origin of the term. It could be taken as insulting to the Native American Tribes to take their wording for their Warriors. I think? I'm not entirely sure myself but that's my best guess.
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Jan 8, 2015 01:27
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Zedd posted:Somebody explain this one to me please, genuine question. (European here) Braves is a term for a kind of Native Americans.
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Jan 8, 2015 01:28
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DICKS FOR DINNER posted:You seem like an awful pleasant guy. I actually am! I just have zero tolerance for bullshit nerd masturbation and this thread has some posters who delight in it.
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Jan 8, 2015 01:31
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Tae posted:Braves is a term for a kind of Native Americans.
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Literally The Worst posted:I actually am! I just have zero tolerance for bullshit nerd masturbation and this thread has some posters who delight in it. Man I even agree with you about honorifics but IMO you should take it easy. A bad opinion about fansubs for a TV show aimed at kids isn't really worth getting feisty over
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Jan 8, 2015 02:34
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DICKS FOR DINNER posted:Man I even agree with you about honorifics but IMO you should take it easy. A bad opinion about fansubs for a TV show aimed at kids isn't really worth getting feisty over Nah yelling at dumb people is a fine thing to be feisty about it (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jan 8, 2015 02:35
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Well really that's up to you, things are just generally better when everyone is chill and gets along if you ask me
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I have never, EVER heard of this Native American brave thing. Its not a big deal.
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RBX posted:I have never, EVER heard of this Native American brave thing. Its not a big deal. That's kind of a lovely way to approach things like this.
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Jan 8, 2015 02:52
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I don't think the word "brave" is as intrinsically racially charged as certain other words...and context matters too, I can't imagine anyone (either in Japan or on TVN staff) are referencing Native American peoples.
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RBX posted:I have never, EVER heard of this Native American brave thing. Its not a big deal. There's literally a major league baseball team called the Atlanta Braves, just cause you're ignorant of it doesn't make it obscure
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Jan 8, 2015 03:04
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jivjov posted:I don't think the word "brave" is as intrinsically racially charged as certain other words...and context matters too, I can't imagine anyone (either in Japan or on TVN staff) are referencing Native American peoples. 'Brave' isn't racially charged just as a word, but when it's being used as a noun it has some pretty unfortunate racial connotations. They really should've researched it and its history before slapping it in to try and be clever but I guess if they bothered to do more than the barest minimum of effort they wouldn't be TV-Nihon
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Jan 8, 2015 03:07
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"Brave(s)" as a derogatory for Native American(s) has fallen out of use nowadays but that doesn't mean it no longer carries the connotations it once had.
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RBX posted:I have never, EVER heard of this Native American brave thing. Its not a big deal. I suggest living in a house instead of under a rock.
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Stallion Cabana posted:I thought that all the posts in the thread meant everyone had come around to admitting that ToQGer is amazing and maybe better then Kyoryuger. ToQger is amazing though. Like, if you told me I'd like ToQger or even that I'd see it as anything other than mediocre (if watchable, unlike Goseiger's brand of mediocrity) I'd call you an idiot, but holy poo poo ToQger is really, really good. Yasuko Kobayashi, I should have never doubted you, I know you're talented but I doubted you, and I am sorry. In retrospect, doubting the person behind Shinkenger and Go-Busters, two of my favourite Sentai (the former basically my Nš1 Sentai) was a really weird move from my part, but TQG really started boring. Now though? Zed is one of my favourite villains ever (perhaps not as good as Enter...another Kobayashi villain, go figure, but really good), Akira added what the heroes needed and they've become more enjoyable (although really it's mostly Tokacchi and Akira who are likable, Right has his moments, the other three are there and mostly forgettable, not exactly the Shinkengers), the villain team in general is just insanely good and I'd watch a series about them (Schwartz's death is the saddest moment in the series in my opinion)...man, TQG is just really good. I hope Toei keeps sticking to good writers. Sanjo and Kobayashi are just really, really good, and having Urobuchi for the previous Kamen Rider was also super enjoyable, not to mention Kazuki "Gurren-Lagann" Nakashima on Fourze before him. I can name series outside Toku from all of these that I enjoy a lot too, like I'll tell everyone here to go watch Garo the Animation right now because that poo poo is great and Kobayashi's writing shines as per usual. Plus it's related to toku, so you know, it makes sense to promote it in this thread even if it has a thread of its own. Anyone know anything about Kento Shimoyama, by the way? He's the writer for Ninninger, but unlike all of those names I typed I have no idea about him. I want to believe though, after so many good Sentai (hell, good Super Hero Time series in general) in a row it'd be sad to get a bad one.
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Literally The Worst posted:Oh no people with bad opinions don't like me whatver shall I dooooooo I think you need to calm down, Literally the Worst-chan*. *translator note: Chan (ちゃん [t͡ɕaɴ]) is a diminutive suffix; it expresses that the speaker finds a person endearing. In general, chan is used for babies, young children, grandparents and teenagers. It may also be used towards cute animals, lovers, close friends, any youthful woman, or between friends.
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Neowyrm posted:I think you need to calm down, Literally the Worst-chan*. Sorry I can't follow this if its not in flashing fancy font
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Literally The Worst posted:Sorry I can't follow this if its not in flashing fancy font  
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Oh my God, this is the best derail. 
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Poison Mushroom posted:Oh my God, this is the best derail. I was hating it for a bit but nope it turned around super loving fast please continue
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Blaze Dragon posted:ToQger is amazing though. Like, if you told me I'd like ToQger or even that I'd see it as anything other than mediocre (if watchable, unlike Goseiger's brand of mediocrity) I'd call you an idiot, but holy poo poo ToQger is really, really good. Yasuko Kobayashi, I should have never doubted you, I know you're talented but I doubted you, and I am sorry.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Goddammit you have the exact same tastes as me now I loving have to watch ToQger. ToQGer is really good god damnit! I say it every week! 
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Blaze Dragon posted:Anyone know anything about Kento Shimoyama, by the way? He's the writer for Ninninger, but unlike all of those names I typed I have no idea about him. I want to believe though, after so many good Sentai (hell, good Super Hero Time series in general) in a row it'd be sad to get a bad one. He wrote some episodes of Goseiger, Go-Busters, and Gokaiger. So I unno. Maybe he'll be good.
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Scratchman Apoo posted:He wrote some episodes of Goseiger, Go-Busters, and Gokaiger. He wrote the episode of Gokaiger where Joe and Luca disguise themselves as Dump Troops using buckets, foil and duct tape. Ans what gives them away is them being too good at card games. He also wrote the Go-Busters episode where Gorosaki makes the heat alarms for Ryuji, and the Eraserroid episode. And he wrote Go-Busters Returns.
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Well, 79 posts, wonder what derail happ- 
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http://www.orendsrange.com/2015/01/japanese-spiderman-makes-his-official.html gently caress yeah SUPAIDAMAN! Too bad he's going to get killed off like every other spider in this dumb event.
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Dexie posted:http://www.orendsrange.com/2015/01/japanese-spiderman-makes-his-official.html Yeah he was in it for like 2 pages before Leopardon got owned by some old guy and the other Spider-Mans left him to die. gently caress Spider-Verse
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