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Is Valkyr any good nowadays? I just picked the game back up and a ton seems to have changed since the last time I played it a year ago, and she was a character I really liked in Theory but seemed mostly terrible (melee in general was quite bad at the time) .
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Jan 8, 2015 04:44
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I like Valkyr. She's pretty durable, and her ult Hysteria is perfect for long rear end survival missions to rez people. Melee can totally wreck poo poo, it's just not as efficient as some of the endgame rifles.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:02
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Naturally Selected posted:Still better than Hydro, though. HAY LOOK TORNADOES I AM HELPING YOU NOT HIT poo poo ALL. Zephyr has the tornadoes and is good. Hydroid has the tentacles and can turn into a puddle, he's medicore.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:04
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I was running Seimeni with a pub Zephyr last night and it was terrible. The end of each round had us running around trying to hunt down the last few monsters that got flung to god knows where by the tornados.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:07
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Isn't Valkyr still basically immortal with the energy from health damage mod?
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Jan 8, 2015 05:27
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I mostly play Saryn these days. Have her modded up to spam Miasma over and over again with reduced duration. That's how she works right? Low duration makes it even stronger?
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Jan 8, 2015 05:33
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EroticBlacksmith posted:Zephyr has the tornadoes and is good. Hydroid has the tentacles and can turn into a puddle, he's medicore. I still can't tell most frames for poo poo  Zephyr is pretty cool outside of that tornado thing, though.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:36
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Argas posted:I mostly play Saryn these days. Have her modded up to spam Miasma over and over again with reduced duration. That's how she works right? Low duration makes it even stronger? Not stronger but kills poo poo faster. The constant is total damage, so it adjusts damage per tick to compensate for reduced duration.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:37
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Kyte posted:Not stronger but kills poo poo faster. The constant is total damage, so it adjusts damage per tick to compensate for reduced duration. Technically it's higher DPS since she couldn't cast Miasma again if it's still active. Short duration Miasma means she can spam it more. Zephyr is great if you hate trying to parkour since you can FLLLYYYYY. Also, "what bullets? Those things buzzing around me and not doing much?" Hydroid may not be much help but at least he's doing his own thing. Limbo can actually screw up group play either intentionally or by accident. His only use is Riftwalking and reviving fallen allies with impunity. But this is upset now that Nekros can zap-punch you back to life from a distance. Although I once saw a Limbo acting like Loki's Decoy except unkillable. Like, standing in a spot and make the enemies shoot him. It's interesting but also depressing. He's most useful when he's just standing there and not do much.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:51
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Limbo's pretty great if everyone knows what they're doing. Being rifted restores your energy over time, so he's great with power heavy characters as powers ignore the rift plane mechanic and affect everyone. It's also great to cast banish on someone trying to carry around datamasses. 
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Jan 8, 2015 05:59
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SynthOrange posted:Limbo's pretty great if everyone knows what they're doing. Being rifted restores your energy over time, so he's great with power heavy characters as powers ignore the rift plane mechanic and affect everyone. He combos well with Volt, since shots fired through Volt Shield affect enemies in both realms. Which means Volt lets you shoot out of Cataclysm! Woo.
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Jan 8, 2015 06:23
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Brainbread posted:He combos well with Volt, since shots fired through Volt Shield affect enemies in both realms. Which means Volt lets you shoot out of Cataclysm! Woo. The only nerd thing about it is we need to get 4x corrosive projection and people to slot some combination of viral / heat or slash (if applicable to the weapon) on the limbo weapons. I am pretty sure shooting through volt shield out of cata only works with hitscan weapons as well, and it doesn't hit nullifier shields so that's awkward. When we tested it without shock trooper / without proper elements / without much power str on limbo my gammacor was doing over 100k white and 300k+ crits. It was fun. Khorne fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 06:28
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The downside is that I find actually playing Limbo to be pretty boring power-wise. Cast Cataclysm, sit around with my thumb up my rear end til it runs out, recast. I mean it helps a group but playing him is pretty dull.
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Jan 8, 2015 06:32
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I played back in may I think, and chose a loki. Only played for a few hours so I've got like 9k credits and it's only level 3. I'm also stuck with all of the original newbie weapons, which I agree completely suck. Is loki valuable enough to keep, or should I just make a new account/character and go excalibur since it didn't actually give me that frame or the new weapons when it put me through the new tutorial?
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Jan 8, 2015 06:37
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SynthOrange posted:The downside is that I find actually playing Limbo to be pretty boring power-wise. Cast Cataclysm, sit around with my thumb up my rear end til it runs out, recast. I mean it helps a group but playing him is pretty dull. With a volt+limbo I'd run limbo with Trans Fort, Blind Rage, Stretch, Streamline, Fleeting, Primed Cont, Natural Talent, Stretch. You need at least -12% range for guys to stand outside for the most part, I run lvl6 narrowminded with lvl3 stretch for -12% exact, but you can have it be a bit more negative I guess. I've been too lazy to pick up a second narrowminded to max. This build also works with the limbo + 2x mesa setup, but your cataclysm duration is a bit shorter. With my crappy narrowminded it's 38s or 42s too lazy to check. It's long enough for a wave pretty much, and as long as you start spamming 4 before it actually cancels it should be up before the pod gets shot. I used to run a normal build with no power str for the mesa strat, but there's no real point. The added benefit of a slightly larger bubble is the mesas are always inside even when it shrinks, and you have a bit more time to frag the things that run at the pod at higher waves (walkers/ancients mostly). There's no real downside when you're running a strategy where everyone except the people breaking bubble stand inside. Khorne fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 06:46
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A Lamer posted:I played back in may I think, and chose a loki. Only played for a few hours so I've got like 9k credits and it's only level 3. I'm also stuck with all of the original newbie weapons, which I agree completely suck. Is loki valuable enough to keep, or should I just make a new account/character and go excalibur since it didn't actually give me that frame or the new weapons when it put me through the new tutorial? The loki is by no means a bad warframe, and neither is the excalibur. The real question is whether you like the loki enough to keep as it is no longer a starter frame, with the three currently avaliable being the Excalibur, Mag, and Volt (Replaces Loki). I'd say keep the account and ask in clan chat for help running missions and doing fun things in order to get out of the starter weapons. And all the other starter weapons can be purchased for credits but I'm sure there are better options to go for than that.
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Jan 8, 2015 06:56
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A Lamer posted:I played back in may I think, and chose a loki. Only played for a few hours so I've got like 9k credits and it's only level 3. I'm also stuck with all of the original newbie weapons, which I agree completely suck. Is loki valuable enough to keep, or should I just make a new account/character and go excalibur since it didn't actually give me that frame or the new weapons when it put me through the new tutorial? Loki is a funny one because it is more viable in high levels content than low level one. In high level towers, it is crucial to have a Loki with Radial Disarm, or else everyone would get stomped by Heavy Gunners and Bombards. But in regular missions, Loki is poo poo without good weapons. If you got nothing important in the account, you could make a new one and revisit Loki later as he is not hard to farm. Another option is just ask a goon to help farm Jackal a bit so you can build a Rhino.
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Jan 8, 2015 07:52
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I AM BANSHEE I AM BEING USEFULLLLLL I like my banshee  she stuns everything on the map (so people can do actual damage and kill everything without being in danger), or I can make enemies take 4 times more damage (even though other frames one shot them anyways.)
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Jan 8, 2015 08:15
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A Lamer posted:I played back in may I think, and chose a loki. Only played for a few hours so I've got like 9k credits and it's only level 3. I'm also stuck with all of the original newbie weapons, which I agree completely suck. Is loki valuable enough to keep, or should I just make a new account/character and go excalibur since it didn't actually give me that frame or the new weapons when it put me through the new tutorial? Just go with what you have and let people drag you through missions for stuff. It's pretty much what most of us are doing all the time anyway once dailies are done and people are sick of void poo poo.
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Jan 8, 2015 09:27
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Doctor Shapes posted:Their sprint speeds are the same, actually. And with the vanguard helmet, Rhino Prime ties with Loki/Loki Prime for fastest frame in the game. You mean the vangaurd arcane helmet that nobody can get anymore right?
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Jan 8, 2015 15:08
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FunkyFlashman posted:You mean the vangaurd arcane helmet that nobody can get anymore right? Just gave away one and am in the process of giving away the next, they are still pretty much in circulation. If you really want one you could still probably pick one up from the player market for plat.
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Jan 8, 2015 15:11
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Daynab posted:I like my banshee I love mine too and use it a lot, but she's certainly not you know, very good.
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Jan 8, 2015 15:31
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The vauban black hole poo poo is hilarious and would have been extremely useful today in some infested survival.Holy bananas we got wrecked.I've had never seen that many enemies in any other survival mission that early, we barely made it to 15 minutes and only by the skin of our teeth .
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Jan 8, 2015 15:44
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FunkyFlashman posted:You mean the vangaurd arcane helmet that nobody can get anymore right? Yeah, I should have clarified that it's arcane. It seems to go for 150-200 plat on the trading market, making it the most valuable one by far.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:09
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Lamadrid posted:The vauban black hole poo poo is hilarious and would have been extremely useful today in some infested survival.Holy bananas we got wrecked.I've had never seen that many enemies in any other survival mission that early, we barely made it to 15 minutes and only by the skin of our teeth . Infested survival is one of my favorites because it gets so intense, especially with the new infested types.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:27
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Feindfeuer posted:Just gave away one and am in the process of giving away the next, they are still pretty much in circulation. If you really want one you could still probably pick one up from the player market for plat. I just missed you by an hour. Timezones! 
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Jan 8, 2015 16:38
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Thronde posted:I just missed you by an hour. Timezones! Well you got it now, and even a bonus Rhino comedy-option.  The arcane Thrak helmet is terrible
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Jan 8, 2015 17:56
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Vauban wouldn't have helped, the problem were all the ancients and moas that spawned and frankly I have never seen this many in one place. Tried to go for max loot on it which was a mistake, Saryn or Ember would've torn the place apart but the only thing you can do on a Nekros is keep 4 up, spam 3 and otherwise stand around with your dick in your hand.
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Jan 8, 2015 18:19
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Morglon posted:Vauban wouldn't have helped, the problem were all the ancients and moas that spawned and frankly I have never seen this many in one place. Tried to go for max loot on it which was a mistake, Saryn or Ember would've torn the place apart but the only thing you can do on a Nekros is keep 4 up, spam 3 and otherwise stand around with your dick in your hand.
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Jan 8, 2015 18:33
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Morglon posted:Vauban wouldn't have helped, the problem were all the ancients and moas that spawned and frankly I have never seen this many in one place. Tried to go for max loot on it which was a mistake, Saryn or Ember would've torn the place apart but the only thing you can do on a Nekros is keep 4 up, spam 3 and otherwise stand around with your dick in your hand. Fish Noise posted:If by dick you mean Fourma'ed Boltor Prime... Or throwing out revives like candy cause soul survivor's a ridiculous augment.
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Jan 8, 2015 18:37
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Fish Noise posted:If by dick you mean Fourma'ed Boltor Prime... this made my brain hurt for a lot of reasons
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Jan 8, 2015 18:57
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I love mine too and use it a lot, but she's certainly not you know, very good. Aside from nullifiers though, there isn't much stopping you as a properly modded Banshee now from just keeping everything locked down forever now and making it a cakewalk for your team mates. The only beef I had with her before is that Silence was basically pointless, but ever since they buffed it and added warframe powers as an intrinsic thing and given us an extra two slots to work with she has probably become one of the better balanced frames in the game. She does her job extremely well (CC) and you can shore up her damage problems with the usual gently caress off guns that murder everything anyway.
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Jan 8, 2015 20:35
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SaffronKit posted:Aside from nullifiers though, there isn't much stopping you as a properly modded Banshee now from just keeping everything locked down forever now and making it a cakewalk for your team mates. The only beef I had with her before is that Silence was basically pointless, but ever since they buffed it and added warframe powers as an intrinsic thing and given us an extra two slots to work with she has probably become one of the better balanced frames in the game. She does her job extremely well (CC) and you can shore up her damage problems with the usual gently caress off guns that murder everything anyway. She's very balanced in a game that isn't.
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Jan 8, 2015 20:39
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:She's very balanced in a game that isn't. Touche. Thankfully she is also still fun as hell to play.
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Jan 8, 2015 21:02
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Morglon posted:Vauban wouldn't have helped, the problem were all the ancients and moas that spawned and frankly I have never seen this many in one place. Tried to go for max loot on it which was a mistake, Saryn or Ember would've torn the place apart but the only thing you can do on a Nekros is keep 4 up, spam 3 and otherwise stand around with your dick in your hand. Ember is actually not especially good for killing hordes. That may seem strange, when her whole gimmick is lighting everything on fire, but there you go.
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Jan 8, 2015 21:05
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Doesn't World on Fire have a cap on how many things it can hit per second and that's what hold sit back from being good even before you take scaling enemy shields/armor/health into account?
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Jan 8, 2015 21:07
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This sounds like a job for Hydroid.
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Jan 8, 2015 21:10
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How are people earning credits? I just bought the blueprint for a Nekros and started building it and I'm broke now. I have a few other guns I want to build too.
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Jan 8, 2015 21:15
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Void missions (preferably the short ones like captures and exterminates) reward a good chunk of credits, Sechura (Pluto dark sector defense) or the new goon favorite, Yursa (Neptune dark sector defense). If you're farming other things like G3 or Zanuka, you can usually do invasion missions for some payouts and come away with some ok cash.
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Get a 4 man group going and run Void missions, preferably Capture missions as they are the fastest and easiest to do for the most money. Technically you can do them by yourself, but the Credit reward at the end of the mission actually scales with the number of people running it!
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