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homerlaw posted:
Are you seriously going to post that without the context? Or do you want me to post it for you?
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Jan 8, 2015 07:25
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homerlaw posted:
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Jan 8, 2015 07:26
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homerlaw posted:
Oooh boy.  I can't wait to see the context of this one argued about again! the punch line isn't on who you think it is!
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Jan 8, 2015 07:27
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homerlaw posted:
Ah, but its... uh. Satire? They're being ironically racist. I seriously can't think of a context in which its appropriate to draw a black woman as a literal ape.
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Jan 8, 2015 07:28
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No but see they make fun of ALL people and religions! They were Equal-Opportunity Offenders. It's just as fair and common-sense as the Flat Tax!
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Jan 8, 2015 07:32
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Chantilly Say posted:My understanding is that the thread has also admitted that we're sexually aroused by witches, or something to that effect. 
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Jan 8, 2015 07:33
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Some of these replies remind me of footage I saw of a Klan rally where one of the attendees was wearing R. Crumb's Ooga Booga on a shirt because he had no idea who the artist was.
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Jan 8, 2015 07:34
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Jan 8, 2015 07:37
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Is a satirically racist image, devoid of all context, simply a racist image? A question for our time.
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Jan 8, 2015 07:38
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alpha_destroy posted:Oooh boy. Can someone enlighten this? Cause yeah, I mean, it kinda looks really bad.
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Jan 8, 2015 07:38
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A couple of people already did?
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Jan 8, 2015 07:39
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Brainbread posted:Ah, but its... uh. Satire? They're being ironically racist. 
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Jan 8, 2015 07:40
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:Sony is Hawaii? I'm not sure why exactly Darkow chose to draw this, but dammit if that isn't the most adorable D3A dive bomber I've ever seen. Of course, it didn't actually have a bomb bay, but still.
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Jan 8, 2015 07:40
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Brainbread posted:Ah, but its... uh. Satire? They're being ironically racist. It was made in response to an episode where a candidate for FN(The French far-right populist party) posted pictures comparing the minister of Justice, Christiane Taubira, one of the only black members of congress in France, to a monkey. That's the FN logo down in the corner. And the text says "Blue racist rally". It's basically a "THIS IS WHAT FN ACTUALLY BELIEVES" picture. Edit: The original person who posted the "not-racist" comparison was sued, the newspaper that published that drawing was not. Why do you think that is? Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 07:44
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Brainbread posted:Ah, but its... uh. Satire? They're being ironically racist. Well, you've kind of just nailed it. Racist imagery is all about the context. So how about this for context: the header there refers to a French far right party who, I believe, repeatedly compared her to a monkey, and then a child actually gave her a banana or bananas were thrown at her or some horrendous poo poo. So yes, the context is the far right comparing this woman to a monkey. If there was ever the correct context to draw a cartoon masquerading as a political poster by a political party literally showing a black woman as a chimpanzee so as to highlight the insane racism present in political messaging, that was the correct context. alpha_destroy fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 07:47
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Small Frozen Thing posted:
This thread is the last place I expected to see that.
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Jan 8, 2015 08:14
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:Sony is Hawaii? This doesn't make any sense! Pearl Harbor was Japan bombing the US. Sony is a Japanese company and the hackers were from North Korea (or not). 
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Jan 8, 2015 08:23
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Lustful Man Hugs posted:This thread is the last place I expected to see that.
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Jan 8, 2015 08:25
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Jan 8, 2015 08:28
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Like loving clockwork.
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Jan 8, 2015 08:29
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And a hearty thanks to Mike Lester for the second half of the lesson on context. Amazing Mike. I feel like Michael Bluth opening the bag marked dead dove; I don't know what I expecting. I really should have known it'd be that though.
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Jan 8, 2015 08:33
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JT Jag posted:I think you'll find there are many parallels between noted anime Madoka Magika and the 2015 American political environment. 
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Jan 8, 2015 08:39
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Basically. As much as I hate limiting debates and/or discussions, can people please not do the whole "too soon to discuss [x]" because no one is ever going to come back in a few days later and say "okay, now you may discuss this issue" and also this is a current events thread.
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Jan 8, 2015 08:52
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Acropolis posted:So... Are we going to get some actual Charlie Hebdo cartoons in this thread? Sounds like it's a French Kelly. We love that guy. I don't speak French, so I don't know what's good or have any context to add. So I don't feel right just dumping a wall of covers I found off GIS. From what I've read, it's sort of an equal opportunity mockery platform. Kind of like Mad Magazine or National Lampoon or, I don't know, maybe Punch would be a better example? It sounds like it was a bigger deal thirty years ago. The staff were certainly brave (their office getting firebombed three years ago only made them get more provocative), but it's an open question whether they were idealists standing on principle or an aging institution desperately trying to stay relevant. Maybe both? I'm not sure it really matters. This op-ed provides some of the cultural context.
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Jan 8, 2015 08:59
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 Do we still like skeletons, donkeys and labels?
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Jan 8, 2015 09:09
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What's happened is terrible, but at least my news isn't that bad. I can't find a good archive for Giles. But I think I'll be able to start scanning a mate's books (He's an old Irish bloke who's one helluva fan) in a few days. We still cool with that?
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Jan 8, 2015 09:24
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There's a pretty crucial difference between this situation and any post-mass shooting frenzy: While the NRA tries to prevent people from debating the means used by the killers to commit a violent crime, right now nobody seems interested in talking about how to prevent further terrorist attacks or about the attackers themselves, rather the focus is on whether the victims were bad people, while making half-hearted concessions that "what happened was bad". It seems that the fact twelve people were murdered is secondary to the fact that I don't agree with some cartoons. It's like making a breaking news story about the fact that some kids at Columbine had failing grades instead of about the shooting, its roots and implications.
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Jan 8, 2015 09:27
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Shadeoses posted:
What I'm getting from the UK toons posted so far is that you could just replace "Obamacare" with "NHS" and call it good.
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Jan 8, 2015 09:30
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steinrokkan posted:There's a pretty crucial difference between this situation and any post-mass shooting frenzy: While the NRA tries to prevent people from debating the means used by the killers to commit a violent crime, right now nobody seems interested in talking about how to prevent further terrorist attacks or about the attackers themselves, rather the focus is on whether the victims were bad people, while making half-hearted concessions that "what happened was bad". It seems that the fact twelve people were murdered is secondary to the fact that I don't agree with some cartoons. It's like making a breaking news story about the fact that some kids at Columbine had failing grades instead of about the shooting, its roots and implications. Last year when Kirschen and Ramirez were doing their lovely doodles and crosshatches blaming the victims for Israel's decision to murder two thousand Palestinians, the political cartoons thread spent more time talking about the political cartoons than the victims of Israeli aggression. I don't know why the political cartoons thread would focus on political cartoons like that. Saint Isaias Boner fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 09:35
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Shadeoses posted:
Donkey's pants are not on the ground. 5/10.
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Jan 8, 2015 09:44
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Jan 8, 2015 09:54
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how moderate of him.
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Jan 8, 2015 09:55
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Muir's most flamboyant "I'm not racist, but..." So far.
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Jan 8, 2015 09:58
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voltroon posted:Donkey's pants are not on the ground. 5/10. Budget cuts.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:01
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Shadeoses posted:Budget cuts. First they couldn't afford belts, now pants?
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Jan 8, 2015 10:02
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Neeksy posted:No but see they make fun of ALL people and religions! They were Equal-Opportunity Offenders. This guys a freakin idiot  
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Jan 8, 2015 10:07
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homerlaw posted:
It's been explained but the 'bleu raciste'=blue racist, is a play on the FN's slogan of Blue Marine, as in Marine Le Pen, their leader.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:12
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100YrsofAttitude posted:It's been explained but the 'bleu raciste'=blue racist, is a play on the FN's slogan of Blue Marine, as in Marine Le Pen, their leader. And the fact that they called Christiane Taubira a monkey.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:13
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Exclamation Marx posted:This guys a freakin idiot Context: Houellebecq is considered one the great living French authors. He released a book, incidentally, yesterday called 'Soumission' or Submission, about France voting a pro-Islamist party to avoid the FN in 2022 or something. France then falls under Islamic law and people accept it since why not? Anyway, the captions read: "The predictions of Houellebecq the mage: 'In 2015 I'll lose my teeth... and in 2022 I'll be celebrating Ramadan'. One of the titles on the top says "Houellebecq, his conversion." The writer used to be pretty atheist, anti-religion but with age as slowly come to see sense in having faith it seems. See then if you can't figure out what the staunchly anti-religious paper is lampooning. Kurtofan posted:And the fact that they called Christiane Taubira a monkey. That's what had been explained but yeah.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:18
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