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TheKingofSprings posted:Isn't that actually really playable in Legacy D&T? Seems underpowered for that. On an unrelated note, 
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e: ^^huh, I can see this doing funny stuff, even though the first thought that comes to mind is "instant speed blockers  "Angry Grimace posted:2/1 for W that incidentally hoses Whip decks. Sort of like reverse Dryad Militant. Thanks, I was thinking this was an alright card until you made me go back and see that it does in fact only say "a graveyard". It's like a white uncommon Scavenging Ooze 
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Jan 8, 2015 09:22
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Elyv posted:Seems underpowered for that. Isn't this card like, loving awful, given the creatures can't attack?
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Jan 8, 2015 09:26
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qbert posted:Isn't this card like, loving awful, given the creatures can't attack? Hahahahahahaha I guess it doesn't give them Haste does it?
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Jan 8, 2015 09:30
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qbert posted:Isn't this card like, loving awful, given the creatures can't attack? If they could attack it would be blatantly overpowered though. The card is for either blocking (ew) or abusing the gently caress out of ETB effects. This is one of those cards that enables broken combos that aren't immediately apparent because some nutter has to develop an entire deck around it. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 09:30
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qbert posted:Isn't this card like, loving awful, given the creatures can't attack? Well, cast it for 4 then and get a Flame-Kin Zealot back... And if you get say, a Restoration Angel back, you can get a guy to permanently stick. Lars fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 09:31
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Mogis's Maurauder is 3cmc... But whatever, Mardu warriors looks fun, even if the mana looks fiddly with good B and W one drops. Unless Marsh Flats returns.
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Jan 8, 2015 09:41
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B/W warriors will have 4 different 1 drops to choose between now, so that's pretty dope. Loving the tribal support on the new guy, the ability to hose delve/whip decks means he'll probably be an automatic 4 of in the deck.
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Jan 8, 2015 09:51
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What happens with Manifiest and ETB triggers? do they just never trigger?
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Jan 8, 2015 09:52
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qbert posted:It seems like there's a good chance B/W or Mardu Warriors can be a deck in FR, and I am SO onboard for that. I've been tinkering with a Mardu Warriors deck ever since I won my local Game Day event with a build, so I'm glad they're giving me another two-power one-drop option that curves into Chief of the Edge like Bloodsoaked Champion has. I will need to adjust the mana base on the deck, though.
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Jan 8, 2015 09:54
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It's really weird how after getting Gnarled Scarhide and Bloodsoaked Champion we now have a 2/1one drop with no downside. Guess it's white instead of black but still
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Jan 8, 2015 09:59
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superstepa posted:It's really weird how after getting Gnarled Scarhide and Bloodsoaked Champion we now have a 2/1one drop with no downside. Guess it's white instead of black but still As far back as I can remember, white getting a 2/1 vanilla one drop was a normal thing, whereas black getting any one drop with two-power always had a drawback, the earliest I'm remembering being Carnophage and Sarcomancy if you count that.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:01
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AceClown posted:What happens with Manifiest and ETB triggers? do they just never trigger? A card being manifested is being put onto the battlefield as a colorless 2/2 with text that says you can turn it face up for its casting cost if it is a creature. It doesn't have any of the other text that would normally be on the card, so any ETB abilities on the creature won't trigger. If you meant things that trigger on other creatures entering, those still trigger.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:03
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Lars posted:Going to spoil the SvM/DaM/NoM scandinaviaMagic card later today, I'll link you guys as soon as the article goes up. All I can think of when I see that URL is David Bowie singing "Dansk Magic Dansk".
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Jan 8, 2015 10:07
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Mercury Crusader posted:As far back as I can remember, white getting a 2/1 vanilla one drop was a normal thing, whereas black getting any one drop with two-power always had a drawback, the earliest I'm remembering being Carnophage and Sarcomancy if you count that. Black and red get 2/1s with drawbacks.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:15
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Applebees posted:Black and red get 2/1s with drawbacks. Well he was specifically referring to black and white. Jackal Pup was hype, though. Here's a weird creature that finds very specific artifacts as well as generates mana for artifacts: 
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Jan 8, 2015 10:21
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Zemyla posted:All I can think of when I see that URL is David Bowie singing "Dansk Magic Dansk". I wish I hadn't googl'd that. Random note: The Mardu Lion seems pretty good with Mardu Charm's Make 2 Warriors mode in response to Whip/Alesha Activation.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:22
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Mercury Crusader posted:Here's a weird creature that finds very specific artifacts as well as generates mana for artifacts: You can see the Heart-piercer Bow in the background, so I guess the glowing beaker next to it is the Vial of Dragonfire. Heart piercer bow is awful, so hopefully whatever Vial is is good enough to want to tutor up.
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Jan 8, 2015 10:49
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Fish Of Doom posted:You can see the Heart-piercer Bow in the background, so I guess the glowing beaker next to it is the Vial of Dragonfire. Heart piercer bow is awful, so hopefully whatever Vial is is good enough to want to tutor up. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a card only present in the third set.
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Fish Of Doom posted:You can see the Heart-piercer Bow in the background, so I guess the glowing beaker next to it is the Vial of Dragonfire. Heart piercer bow is awful, so hopefully whatever Vial is is good enough to want to tutor up. Vial of Dragonfire {2} Artifact - Equipment Whenever equipped creature blocks, Vial of Dragonfire deals 1 damage to target creature attacking player controls. Equip {1}
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What if Vial of Dragonfire makes Heart-Piercer Bow good? 
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Dungeon Ecology posted:What if Vial of Dragonfire makes Heart-Piercer Bow good? Just have it give the Bow deathtouch/make it sac for shock 
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Angry Grimace posted:If they could attack it would be blatantly overpowered though. The card is for either blocking (ew) or abusing the gently caress out of ETB effects. This is one of those cards that enables broken combos that aren't immediately apparent because some nutter has to develop an entire deck around it. 7 mana gives you Pestermite and Kiki-Jiki...
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Jan 8, 2015 13:20
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BizarroAzrael posted:Mogis's Maurauder is 3cmc... Yeah. Maurauder is straight up the best target for the card, even with the reduced utility of Intimidate now that the entire meta is made up of multicolored decks. But you can also get a lot of use out of a 5 CMC swarm of Mantis Riders or a 6 CMC swarm of Butchers of the Horde. (Or 7 CMC Zurgo's + Stormbreath Dragon if you want to go long.) (Edit: Or 7 CMC Kragma Warcaller + all the Minotaurs.) Or you can just be dumb and set up Hammer of Purphoros beforehand. I'm not even going to posit the EDH poo poo you can pull with it. Oh hey! Here's a poo poo ton of instant speed Shadowborn Apostles for 3 mana which I will sac for Ob Nixi in response to you cracking your fetch. AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Zemyla posted:All I can think of when I see that URL is David Bowie singing "Dansk Magic Dansk". Great. Now I have to hunt you down and kill you. Like my week wasn't busy enough already.
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Jan 8, 2015 14:27
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So I'm getting back into Magic, again. I've been reading this thread all the way through for the past two weeks and am starting to get excited to do my first prerelease next week. Is there anything I should do to get ready for it, other than get my workouts for those days in early before the day starts? Do I need to be good at Limited or Sealed to have fun? Will I go pay my entry fee and end up coming home with mostly garbage rares and draft leavings? Convince me to maintain my unreasonable excitement, goons!
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Xir posted:Will I go pay my entry fee and end up coming home with mostly garbage rares and draft leavings? Prereleases are awesome, lots of new, fun magic cards that interact in new and exciting ways. They are great, buuuuut, the bolded part above is very true. When you play limited, you will almost always end up with pile of bad rares (for constructed) and draft leavings.
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Jan 8, 2015 14:39
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Xir posted:Will I go pay my entry fee and end up coming home with mostly garbage rares and draft leavings? And the Ugin's fate boosters look pretty rad too.
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Read up on the rules for both Khans and the new set - but especially read up on how evergreen mechanics like lifelink, intimidate, deathtouch, etc work. Depending on when you last played there have probably been significant changes to some core rules. The Legend and Planeswalker rules changed just a year and a half ago, for example. If you have time, playing a couple practice games on Magic Online can help. Wizards usually posts a prerelease primer that touches on block specific stuff, any really new changes, and tournament procedure, so keep an eye out for that on their site. Also, if you have any rules questions beforehand, ask here. I'm a judge and I'm sure there are others in this thread willing to help. At the tournament proper feel free to call for a judge if anything is confusing. Your store may not have one for prerelease so the TO or store owner may have to make due.
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Jan 8, 2015 14:48
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Is there a known list of the alternate art cards now. I collect dumb stuff (only 12 or so stamped Khans cards to go!) and this sounds like a pain to finish a set of.
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Jan 8, 2015 15:02
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Alright, these sound like good suggestions and I'm on Wizards' site right now looking at the comprehensive rules. I admit, all I know about the prerelease is that it is an event. I have no idea what goes on at it, and was guessing about the Sealed and Limited stuff.
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Xir posted:So I'm getting back into Magic, again. I've been reading this thread all the way through for the past two weeks and am starting to get excited to do my first prerelease next week. Is there anything I should do to get ready for it, other than get my workouts for those days in early before the day starts? Do I need to be good at Limited or Sealed to have fun? Will I go pay my entry fee and end up coming home with mostly garbage rares and draft leavings? Someone has to lose. Why not enjoy playing magic, seeing new cards, maybe you get a good card, maybe you get a prize, maybe you just have a fun night?
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Xir posted:Alright, these sound like good suggestions and I'm on Wizards' site right now looking at the comprehensive rules. Yeah, it's sealed. The prereleases are probably the best means of getting back into the game because of that, coupled with the fact that nobody else has had the chance to play with this new stuff either. You get your six boosters, any little promotional stuff, and just go at it. Worst case scenario you got to buy and open some packs for the new set a week before they're released. A lot of people that don't come to regular events like FNM show up to prereleases, and they generally produce a good crowd of people who range from really serious players to people who have never played a match of Magic before in their lives. As a result, atmosphere wise it's as casual as your average FNM if not more so. In terms of advice, outside of bringing anything you feel like you would personally want on a 5-6 hour outing, get yourself a cheap pack of sleeves and a pen and paper so you don't have to use a crappy spindown die for life.
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Count Bleck posted:Is that some sort of Ghost Eldrazi? It looks like ROE art style and Kamigawa art style had a beautiful baby elemental-thing. Mercury Crusader posted:Well he was specifically referring to black and white. Jackal Pup was hype, though. I hope Vial of Dragonfire is real good because who the hell ever wants to tutor up Heart-Piercer Bow? If we don't see Vial of Dragonfire til the third set, that's a super cool flavor gimmick of having a guy in the past who can fetch something from either possible future. Sadly that probably means Vial of Dragonfire will be a functional reprint of Heart-Piercer Bow or close to it.
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Entropic posted:I hope Vial of Dragonfire is real good because who the hell ever wants to tutor up Heart-Piercer Bow? I can pretty much guarantee that this will be the case, as Heart-Piercer is in Khans. This card is fun, but I don't think super amazing in this format. Can't be used for Morph casting/flips or for Manifest. Not a lot of good artifacts in the set, either.
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Perhaps in the current time line it's a vial of dragonfire, but as time passes and we hit dragons of tarkir, it ages and turns into aether... 
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Jan 8, 2015 15:36
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The weaponsmith guy could be a great 2 drop in the Mono U or UR Robots decks. A much better way to get out a Doom Engine, albeit not hasty. Turn 1 Drum, Orthithoper, T2 this guy, T3 Doom engine.
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Jan 8, 2015 15:44
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yeah if he's anything he's a dork for a constructed robots deck with an irrelevant second ability
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Deofuta posted:Perhaps in the current time line it's a vial of dragonfire, but as time passes and we hit dragons of tarkir, it ages and turns into aether... I don't think they want Aether Vial running around in Standard. At least not this one. Even if it would be pretty cool.
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