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The problem with Sheik is that no one except Diddy has a really favorable matchup against her. Some people have decent matchups (ZSS, Link, Yoshi... well maybe not Yoshi, and Ness, basically the top tiers are dictated by who is alright against Sheik and Diddy currently) but Sheik is essentially great because she trumps more than half the cast. It was the same in Melee. People even say that the Sheik/Sheik ditto matchup isn't even in Sheik's favor, since Sheik benefits greatly from her own fallspeed and weight, to the point where tilt combos are even easier than normal. Edit: Oh, I forgot Lucario actually has a favorable matchup against Sheik due to his aura making him just able to attrition her out. laplace fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Theta Zero posted:I do, and he complains a lot. Then again he's probably just dumb. But either way they nerfed it because you could influence where you'd go for an easy suicide kill, much more easily than other characters. Whoever has lower % influences the direction of the slam, if they're equal then it's averaged out between the two inputs I believe. Pretty sure that's still true even after the patch.
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laplace posted:The problem with Sheik is that no one except Diddy has a really favorable matchup against her. Some people have decent matchups (ZSS, Link, Yoshi... well maybe not Yoshi, and Ness, basically the top tiers are dictated by who is alright against Sheik and Diddy currently) but Sheik is essentially great because she trumps more than half the cast. It was the same in Melee. Yeah, I hate fighting Lucario because, as awesome as Sheik is, she can't kill until a high percent (compared to other top characters) so you are guaranteed to have to deal with a Lucario who has a ton of aura and rage.
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Jan 8, 2015 18:27
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shortspecialbus posted:No it doesn't. It seems like a perfect fit for the anime trash can. If there is one. eShop is where games go to die.
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Jan 8, 2015 19:23
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I hate Sheik way more than I hate diddy, because diddy is from the greatest game ever made, and sheik is some lame edgy ninja character who dumb people think is cool.
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Jan 8, 2015 20:12
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mabels big day posted:I hate Sheik way more than I hate diddy, because diddy is from the greatest game ever made, and sheik is some lame edgy ninja character who dumb people think is cool. This is like the worst post in 2015.
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Sheik is extremely cool for friends and family to enjoy
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mabels big day posted:I hate Sheik way more than I hate diddy, because diddy is from the greatest game ever made, and sheik is some lame edgy ninja character who dumb people think is cool. strange, i dont remember diddy in super metroid
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Jan 8, 2015 20:24
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Kewpuh posted:strange, i dont remember diddy in super metroid His actor played one of the space monkeys that taught you to wall jump.
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Jan 8, 2015 20:28
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sheik is zelda, but in disguise
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Jan 8, 2015 20:29
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I keep reading shiek as shrek and getting confused.
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sharrrk posted:sheik is zelda, but in disguise Pull the other one!
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Jan 8, 2015 21:25
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Maple Leaf posted:Pull the other one! teach me roll cancelled grabs you professional bastard
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Cialis Railman posted:I keep reading shiek as shrek and getting confused. wtb Shrek amiibo
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TheKingofSprings posted:teach me roll cancelled grabs you professional bastard Teach you what? Aside from perfect pivoting, the latest advanced tech I'm aware of is edge sliding. I can teach you jump cancelled grabs, if that's what you meant?
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Maple Leaf I would like to fight you again and maybe win?
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Maple Leaf posted:Teach you what? Sure E: also some characters have a thing where if you hit the control stick, then hit shield and then A, they'll do a grab with longer range TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Do you use Mumble or something similar to communicate while you're playing?
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Theta Zero posted:Do you use Mumble or something similar to communicate while you're playing? everyone is usually in an irc channel here, i don't think there's a mumble/TS3 server set up for smash.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Sure A jump cancel is when you input a jump and then some other action within the amount of frames it takes for your character to leave the ground. Those are called jumpsquat frames. The amount of frames differ between every character: Lucario has 5, Little Mac has 6, Robin has 8 (which is considered really bad and slow), etc. One example is you can dash forward, and then jump, and then input a grab within your character's jumpsquat frames, then you'll do a standing grab rather than a dash grab. This is good for characters with really bad dash grabs - Donkey Kong, Zero Suit Samus, etc. What makes this particularly powerful is that you can cancel shield with a jump. So if your shield is being pressured and you know you're getting an opening soon, you can cancel your shield with a jump, which you cancel with an attack. You can get out a smash attack without having to drop your shield or turn around or whatever. PantsBandit posted:Maple Leaf I would like to fight you again and maybe win? Some friends want me to play doubles soon, and I might have that tourney match against Endgame, but other than those, I'm down.
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RyokoTK posted:This is like the worst post in 2015. Its true. Edit: I mean my post is true.
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Which character is the most controlling/least aggressive?
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Smashing Link posted:Which character is the most controlling/least aggressive? Duck Hunt
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I will pay Any Price to have Skyworld removed from Smash 5.
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Smashing Link posted:Which character is the most controlling/least aggressive? My grandma
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A very good video set to questionable music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A48D_wfvWk
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~135 games later of For Glory, and I still can't wrangle Mega Man into anything useful(~51% total winrate). He feels like a zoning character that can't actually zone aside from getting surprise gimp kills. He can play deep off the side thanks to his vertical recovery, but there are a huge number of things that can go wrong there(and don't play deep if you can't walljump). I feel like every time I make an attack as Mega Man I will get 30% dealt to me in return for my 2-3% to the enemy. Combos seem nonexistent for him. His downthrow leads to nothing, his upthrow doesn't get him much either. His backthrow can kill but at absurd percentages(~140-150?). Bair is good but it's predictable as hell. With the sheer number of reflecting moves in the game, his fsmash is a huge gamble that the odds are quite frankly against you in using. My only strong performances are to play SO LAME that it's embarassing. Literally pellets(jump the third), sawblade, run away. Repeat ad infinitum or until desired effect is achieved. Is there anyone having actual success with Mega Man, and if so, HOW?
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Kewpuh posted:strange, i dont remember diddy in super metroid  What about Kirby
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:
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I've only played 2 Mega Man players in For Glory and they were both absolutely untouchable. I dunno what specific tactics I can recommend that they used though. Certainly they loved his dash attack, the Top Spin lasts for ages. Generally there'd be an unending wall of projectiles in the form of the buster, the Metal Blade, the Crash Bomb etc. Also if I was above them in the air they would spam the poo poo out of the tornados. Also are you using his tilts? The uppercut is a solid kill move, the slide is decent for mixing things up. Admittedly I was using Captain Falcon who seems dreadful for dealing with Mega, like you said any kind of counter or reflect would deal with a lot of his attacks
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Let's just say, if you are in a SNES game, you are arguably from the greatest game ever made. Sheik is not from a SNES game. Ergo, Sheik cannot be from the greatest game ever made/
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mabels big day posted:Let's just say, if you are in a SNES game, you are arguably from the greatest game ever made. Sheik is not from a SNES game. Ergo, Sheik cannot be from the greatest game ever made/ robocop is from a better game than shiek, qed. lets get some robocop dlc for smash.
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Dieting Hippo posted:robocop is from a better game than shiek, qed. lets get some robocop dlc for smash. final smash: dick shoot
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ChaosArgate posted:Wait what Level in Dreamland 3 has you hunting metroids for samus as the level's bonus objective. Another has you helping ROB and stuff.
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One of the Kirbys has a Master Hand boss who if you swallow you get your Smash moveset
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Reiley posted:One of the Kirbys has a Master Hand boss who if you swallow you get your Smash moveset Amazing Mirror. It shows back up in Squeak Squad but with a different name. Dream collection also has a "Smash" challenge where you have the moveset.
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F. Lobot posted:This looks like something I'd play... for the mechanics... by myself. The dude is right in the comments and this FAQ video that Nintendo don't own the gameplay "style" of Smash, buuuuuut I think they'd be a little put off by the fact the title of the game literally has the words "Super Smash" in it. It's like...just call it something different without using those two words. Don't use Super Smash in the title itself.
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Viewtiful Jew posted:The dude is right in the comments and this FAQ video that Nintendo don't own the gameplay "style" of Smash, buuuuuut I think they'd be a little put off by the fact the title of the game literally has the words "Super Smash" in it. It's like...just call it something different without using those two words. Don't use Super Smash in the title itself. Yeah, not to mention the egregious HUD elements and promotional material like this:  They're doing everything they can to not be taken seriously.
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I think the touhous' designs should be tinier and cuter.
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F. Lobot posted:They're doing everything they can to not be taken seriously. That was assured when they decided to make a touhou game.
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