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I am not so sure that it is universally cheaper to add lots of low paid workers in lieu of full timers. If that were the case, jobs added since the ACA was introduced in 2010 (started in 2013?) would be dominated by part time people. FRED data seems to indicate that the jobs being added are full time, not part time: The number of part-time employees is at an all time high and falling. Furthermore, it doesn't look there has been a sharp drop in average worker hours for nonsupervisors, since the ACA: I've posted the whole thing for funsies, you can always hit up the FRED to look at what has happened 2004-2014. It doesn't look drastically changed. There doesn't appear to be some business preference for creating part-time jobs because of the ACA. This may be because of the current point of change from part-time to full-time at 30 hours. If you had a workforce at 40 hours before the ACA, converting to 30 hours means an increase of 25% in the workforce. This means more managers, floor space, overhead in general. While it may happen that some companies make the switch to 30 hour employees and say "suck it up and work 40" this doesn't appear to be a wide-spread phenomenon. The whole point of this is to basically agree with Amused To Death. The current limit to his/her working hours is probably the ACA limit for part-time, so raising that limit will increase Amused's hours while loving the people who get fired because they aren't needed and the rest of the country. The change from 40 to 30 hours per employee seems to have substantial overhead costs. The change from 40 to 39 does not seem to have the same costs. For context, I created this post because of things like this: Trabisnikof posted:What are you claiming here? That employers don't like having a lot of low hours employees? Edit: I was beaten: Shageletic posted:According to the CBO report on ACA's economic impact, which I encourage all y'all to read: the law decreased the total amount of hours worked, on net, 1.5 to 2 percent. This is almost entirely because workers choose not to work to avoid taxes and gain benefits. Therefore this is will likely be a small decrease in labor participation and not a rise of unemployment. There has not been an increase in part time hours due to the law, and there has not been a wave of employers firing people because of the law. Boot and Rally fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Willa Rogers posted:Good to hear that Obama can raise the overtime threshold, though. Do you reckon he plans to do so anytime soon? The White House already put out a statement saying it is going to be adjusted (for the first time since the 70's) in February. They haven't given any indication of how much though. Some economists in the WaPo guessed it will be around 50k, but I have no idea what they are basing that on.
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Willa Rogers posted:* Provide a federal safety net for those eligible for Medicaid, instead of leaving them in limbo and subject to state bureaucracy, as has occurred in California where those eligible for Medicaid had to wait up to 6 months for enrollment. More for the PPACA thread, but: I have a friend who's pretty drat poor who was eligible for medicaid but had to instead enroll in some sort of HMO on the exchange and consquentially she can't go back and see the psychiatrist she was seeing for needed meds, and has to go to her new PCP first who won't renew the Rx without seeing her, and she can't get seen for a month after she's enrolled, and going cold turkey off psych meds really sucks. What I'm saying is there is lots of room for improvement and folks have legit complaints about problems despite acknowledging good points. Psych and addiction care are mandated on exchange plans, and that's a huge expansion of coverage for those things.
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edit: Moved my response to the PPACA thread.
Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Senate passes TRIA reauthorization. That's good right?
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Swan Oat posted:Senate passes TRIA reauthorization. Yeah, that's pretty good.
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Since we are talking healthcare right now, can someone answer a question for me? I was having a conversation with a shockingly reasonable self proclaimed libertarian and he told me that since the ACA came into effect, his pretty good $100 a month health insurance now costs him $300 a month for the same coverage, and that one in a similar price range to his old plan has deductibles he wouldn't be able to afford and does almost nothing for him. I told him that the reason for that was likely twofold- one, because his old plan would likely drop him in a heartbeat if anything extreme happened to him, which is now illegal, and two, because we are in Mississippi and our lovely governor rejected the federal funding out of spite. Did I get this right, or is there more to it than that?
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Someone earlier made a good point about how groups are now being put in larger pool of people. It's likely your friend is/was low-risk but now has to help out people who are slightly more risky to cover. I say that with no real basis under than thinking I saw somebody say that earlier. I would add that in addition to your other two points.
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Ben Has Tiny Weenus posted:Since we are talking healthcare right now, can someone answer a question for me? I doubt his $100 a month health insurance plan was worth a poo poo.
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N. Senada posted:Someone earlier made a good point about how groups are now being put in larger pool of people. It's likely your friend is/was low-risk but now has to help out people who are slightly more risky to cover. I say that with no real basis under than thinking I saw somebody say that earlier. I say tell him this and really ham up the whole "YOU ARE SUPPORTING WORTHLESS SICKLY UNTERMENSCHEN" aspect of it just to make his lovely libertarian head explode.
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There's also the small detail that pretty much the only people who ACA overtly raised premiums on is the 18-30 age group and no one gave a poo poo until the Republicans tried to make hay of it. It didn't really move the needle for the same reasons that they did that in the first place.
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Ben Has Tiny Weenus posted:Since we are talking healthcare right now, can someone answer a question for me? Rejected Federal funding was just for medicaid, right? Probably doesn't apply. Plans that used to cost $100 usually had a low lifetime cap, and a lot of people who had those plans had no idea there was a cap.
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I have lovely health insurance and I pay more than $100 a month and I wonder what that dude's definition of 'pretty good' is.
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Quote of the day, "April brought another trauma to my knees which balked when I tried to rise from my lowly 14" commode. Again, I sat for hours awaiting Wade’s scheduled arrival; however his attempt to lift me was futile — when he pulled me up, he fell backwards and I fell on my knees again. Solution: We installed the tallest-available, 17 1/2" commode and a pull-up bar on my bathroom wall." ~ Alabama Democratic Party Chairwoman Nancy Worley, in her Christmas letter to fellow Democrats.
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How would things like the common carrier rating affect data caps? Increased speeds is nice but if they can still just cap you and then start loving you hard for going over their limits due to streaming lots of TV the victory for us is somewhat diminished.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "April brought another trauma to my knees which balked when I tried to rise from my lowly 14" commode. Again, I sat for hours awaiting Wade’s scheduled arrival; however his attempt to lift me was futile — when he pulled me up, he fell backwards and I fell on my knees again. Solution: We installed the tallest-available, 17 1/2" commode and a pull-up bar on my bathroom wall." ~ Alabama Democratic Party Chairwoman Nancy Worley, in her Christmas letter to fellow Democrats. This is my state. I have to live here. Stop it, I already hate it enough.
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Boot and Rally posted:
Yeah, sorry about that. Love the graphs though!
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Evil Fluffy posted:How would things like the common carrier rating affect data caps? Not at all.
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Gounads posted:Rejected Federal funding was just for medicaid, right? Probably doesn't apply. He could be temporarily embarrassed millionaire to quite some degree.
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GreyPowerVan posted:This is my state. I have to live here. Alabama Dems: Can't even get helped up after a poo poo.
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Back to the depressing news. Millenials are Just as Racist as their Parents quote:However frustrating the current state of race relations in the U.S., there is, according to various pundits and prognosticators, hope for the future: Millennials, they say, are the most tolerant, race-blind generation in human history. And when they grow up and constitute the bulk of the adult U.S. population, many of the problems that have plagued U.S. race-relations for centuries will simply melt away, relics of a less-enlightened past. quote:Younger (under-30) whites are just as likely as older ones to view whites as more intelligent and harder-working than African-Americans (among the older cohort, 64 percent felt this way, and among the younger cohort the number was 61 percent — not a statistically significant difference). “White millennials appear to be no less prejudiced than the rest of the white population,” Piston told Science of Us in an email, “at least using this dataset and this measure of prejudice.” quote:If white millennials were, in fact, significantly more racially tolerant than previous generations, it would show up in implicit association tests. And yet they do no better than many of their older counterparts. For example, a study of 2.5 million voluntary IAT tests from between July 2000 and May 2006 shows very little difference across age groups, with the exception of those 60 or older. Other age cutoffs show a similar result: With the exception of the elderly, who do exhibit significantly more racial animosity, there is little generational difference in implicit bias. What does divide old and young is differences in the accuracy of their self-evaluation of racial bias. While older people underestimate their bias by an average of .38 points on a four-point scale, the youngest two brackets under-report their bias by an average of .52 points on average. Younger people, in other words, are simply more deluded about their own beliefs. http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/01/millennials-are-less-tolerant-than-you-think.html
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John McCain has introduced the Obamacare Opt-Out Act of 2015, which would allow you to check a box on your income tax forms nullifying a federal law.
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FAUXTON posted:Alabama Dems: Can't even get helped up after a poo poo. I think I could chair the Alabama Democratic party better than her --- My strategy, suggest that we give up. Democrats can't win poo poo in Alabama because in Alabama, Democrat is about as bad as the word "welfare", even though a lot of the people here are on food stamps anyways.
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Shageletic posted:Back to the depressing news.
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Evil Fluffy posted:How would things like the common carrier rating affect data caps? Increased speeds is nice but if they can still just cap you and then start loving you hard for going over their limits due to streaming lots of TV the victory for us is somewhat diminished. You would hopefully have an uncapped competitor to switch to when your contract expires. It'd probably cost more or have different speed caps at peak hours, though, because those caps are there for a reason.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "April brought another trauma to my knees which balked when I tried to rise from my lowly 14" commode. Again, I sat for hours awaiting Wade’s scheduled arrival; however his attempt to lift me was futile — when he pulled me up, he fell backwards and I fell on my knees again. Solution: We installed the tallest-available, 17 1/2" commode and a pull-up bar on my bathroom wall." ~ Alabama Democratic Party Chairwoman Nancy Worley, in her Christmas letter to fellow Democrats.
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Joementum posted:John McCain has introduced the Obamacare Opt-Out Act of 2015, which would allow you to check a box on your income tax forms nullifying a federal law. Where is my auto insurance opt-out McCain???
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Still constitute the majority of votes until 2050 or so.
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Shageletic posted:Still constitute the majority of votes until 2050 or so. I've said it time and time again, but the only way I can see America starting to broach race and equality issues with effective measures is to wait till we just outnumber whites in all the important states and cities, because you guys have had the last half century to do poo poo and spent it voting in the likes of Reagan.
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Shageletic posted:Still constitute the majority of votes until 2050 or so. Earlier than that if not all white people are racist (though significant majorities certainly are). nutranurse posted:I've said it time and time again, but the only way I can see America starting to broach race and equality issues with effective measures is to wait till we just outnumber whites in all the important states and cities, because you guys have had the last half century to do poo poo and spent it voting in the likes of Reagan. If the browning of America were a concentrated effort like racists fear then you really should diffuse that population into other states instead of just the 3-4 most populated states. computer parts fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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To add to the Republican poo poo sandwich, they're reintroducing CISPA. http://consumerist.com/2015/01/08/third-times-the-charm-house-to-take-another-stab-at-terrible-internet-bill-cispa/ quote:Not unlike a mummy, the reanimated corpse of a bad bill that just doesn’t know when to stay dead is once again coming to the floor of a Congress near you this week. Tomorrow, the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act — better known as CISPA — is once again going to be introduced before the House of Representatives.
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nutranurse posted:I've said it time and time again, but the only way I can see America starting to broach race and equality issues with effective measures is to wait till we just outnumber whites in all the important states and cities, because you guys have had the last half century to do poo poo and spent it voting in the likes of Reagan. And Carter and Clinton and JFK and Obama...
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Munkeymon posted:You would hopefully have an uncapped competitor to switch to when your contract expires. It'd probably cost more or have different speed caps at peak hours, though, because those caps are there for a reason. That reason is making money, if you're talking about monthly caps for total download. Amergin posted:And Carter and Clinton and JFK and Obama... *lists 4 different presidents over 60 years knowingly waggling eyebrows, and shits self* Democrats am I right??? RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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RuanGacho posted:That reason is making money, if you're talking about monthly caps for total download. Yes companies want to make money in new capitalism shocker. (the incremental cost to the ISP of a gigabyte of transfer is under a penny, ISPs are a ridiculously high margin business).
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Shageletic posted:Back to the depressing news. I think what this article says is being misinterpreted a little: what it's saying is basically you're no less racist than your parents - but you are way less racist than your grandparents. So there still is social progress as millenials replace their grandparents, just not as much as hoped.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Yes companies want to make money in new capitalism shocker. (the incremental cost to the ISP of a gigabyte of transfer is under a penny, ISPs are a ridiculously high margin business). Agreed? Not sure your point. I was clarifying that there is no quality of service reason for monthly data allotments.
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Fried Chicken posted:A candidate for the Mayor of London wear a boot on his head? Not specifically a boot but...
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computer parts posted:Yet mysteriously they all start voting in larger numbers after they reach the age of 30. I'm over 30 and vote, but not for dems because they don't represent me.
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effectual posted:I'm over 30 and vote, but not for dems because they don't represent me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT_BuJAI70
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I think most GenXers/Millenials are just is racist as their parents but are more oblivious to it and are more defensive about it.
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