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Mr. Nice! posted:Why would a New Jersey guy cheer for a New York team? I mean, I know that they play in east Rutherford today, but they were originally New York not Jersey teams. I don't expect someone from Oklahoma to be a Dallas fan even if they live just across the border on I-35. I would expect someone from Oklahoma to be a Cowboys fan.
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say no to bats posted:News: After recent events and all the smoke and rumors leading up to them, the Browns are already being considered "A gigantic mess" again across the league. Just as dysfunctional and hosed up internally as the past few HC/FO/Owner combinations. Browns will move up to get Winston, so don't worry duders.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Both the Giants and Jets are New York teams. Christie is the governor of New Jersey. He's as beholden to the neighbor state's team as he is someone from Oklahoma or Nebraska. I think Christie is just a bandwagon fan who in the 70s or whenever the Cowboys were good jumped on and then just stayed on. That's my guess as to why he likes the Cowboys. That said it is unusual for a governor or public official to not root for the local team because it makes it easier to pander to the public.
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Jan 9, 2015 03:18
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AfterFather posted:I wish this could be brought up more. One call does not make an entire game. The first thing I said after the game was "That call cost Detroit the game but not if Dallas doesn't turn around from a mostly flaccid first half, so good on them". It's too bad you aren't cool and FB buddies with me like Hizawk, otherwise you would have known that 
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Jan 9, 2015 03:21
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Randandal posted:Welcome to the past decade of being a Dallas fan. Dude, that isn't in the same ballpark as being a fan of a team like Detroit. Even in the "lost decade" of the 00's, the Cowboys were a game over .500 (http://home.jps.net/~fos/nfl/nfl00s.htm), went to the playoffs 3x, and won a couple playoff games. The Lions were 42-119 during that same period. That's a bad team. Dallas has five rings. One of a just a few teams that won multiple super bowls with different core rosters. The winningest NFC team (and #3 overall) since the merger. Take it from me; a Steelers fan married to a Bills fan and best friends with a Browns fan. You and I have absolutely no idea what it's like to be emotionally invested in a truly bad NFL team. The Little Kielbasa fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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say no to bats posted:News: After recent events and all the smoke and rumors leading up to them, the Browns are already being considered "A gigantic mess" again across the league. Just as dysfunctional and hosed up internally as the past few HC/FO/Owner combinations. That sounds more like rumors than news but I do agree Haslam is awful
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Zoran posted:I would expect someone from Oklahoma to be a Cowboys fan. There is actually a wide variety of fans. I would say majority are cowboys fans but with a percentage in the 30s
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Metapod posted:There is actually a wide variety of fans. I would say majority are cowboys fans but with a percentage in the 30s Most Oklahomans I know hate everything about Texas. It's not at all surprising that Christe's a Cowboys fan.
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Jan 9, 2015 04:58
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say no to bats posted:Also Haslam is the one sending plays down to the sidelines during games. Which is not even the worst thing he has done as he rapidly climbs to Snyderdom status.
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Jan 9, 2015 04:59
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Mr. Nice! posted:Most Oklahomans I know hate everything about Texas. It's not at all surprising that Christe's a Cowboys fan. there are a lot of people like that
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Jan 9, 2015 05:01
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BGrifter posted:
That pic will be burned into my mind forever Also, some more context on how salty we are in Detroit: http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/01/08/detroit-lions-billboards-referee-lyin-fans/21446357/
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Jan 9, 2015 05:07
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commieB posted:That pic will be burned into my mind forever It's not his fault, he was filled with an uncontrollable urge to do the time warp agaaaaaaaaaaaain... 
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Jan 9, 2015 05:32
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pasaluki posted:I think Christie is just a bandwagon fan who in the 70s or whenever the Cowboys were good jumped on and then just stayed on. That's my guess as to why he likes the Cowboys. That said it is unusual for a governor or public official to not root for the local team because it makes it easier to pander to the public. He was a big Staubach fan growing up and was on his Football Life special as well
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Jan 9, 2015 06:08
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Zoran posted:I would expect someone from Oklahoma to be a Cowboys fan. I was born in Oklahoma, I live in North Carolina. gently caress the cowboys.
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Jan 9, 2015 06:19
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WeLandedOnTheMoon! posted:Pretty much this. it's a stupid game where people try to move a goofy egg shaped ball from one side of the field to another who gives a poo poo who someone roots for
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MourningView posted:it's a stupid game where people try to move a goofy egg shaped ball from one side of the field to another who gives a poo poo who someone roots for Millions of voters probably, he should be happy that Dallas didn't do anything for the last decade.
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MourningView posted:it's a stupid game where people try to move a goofy egg shaped ball from one side of the field to another who gives a poo poo who someone roots for http://www.amazon.com/Ive-Always-Been-Yankees-Fan/dp/0974670189 There's some weird carryover between sports and politics. As if you can determine the character of the person based solely on which team they cheer for. But you can get Steelers, Cowboys, Lions, Browns, Vikings, Bills, Ravens and Falcons fans in agreement that the little weasel dude who went from being a 9ers fan in the 80's to a Cowboys fan in the 90's to a Pats fan in the 00's should never be entrusted with any public position higher than janitor. Abugadu fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Jan 9, 2015 06:42
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Abugadu posted:But you can get Steelers, Cowboys, Lions, Browns, Vikings, Bills, Ravens and Falcons fans in agreement that the little weasel dude who went from being a 9ers fan in the 80's to a Cowboys fan in the 90's to a Pats fan in the 00's should never be entrusted with any public position higher than janitor. This is also fine, and if anything probably shows good judgment since it would mean you are not limiting your enjoyment of the sport out of some dumb childish loyalty to an ever shifting group of people who could not possibly care less about you and whose only connection to you is the stupid outfit they are required to wear by their employer. MourningView fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Jan 9, 2015 07:09
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I went to Oklahoma for an Autumn Sunday leefpeeping drive in their eastern "mountains" a few years ago (the timing was not my idea) and figured I could find the Cowboys game on local radio..... I found a Chiefs game instead. It wasn't just a Chiefs game, it was back when they were terrible before Alex Smith and Andy Reid arrived and it was a puntfest against loving Oakland. I was absolutely appalled. vvvv Like you wouldn't be appalled at only finding an abortion-era Chiefs-Raiders game on the radio when you were hoping to find something decent. Randandal fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Jan 9, 2015 07:38
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Randandal posted:It wasn't just a Chiefs game, it was back when they were terrible before Alex Smith and Andy Reid arrived and it was a puntfest against loving Oakland. I was absolutely appalled. Christ your 10 year football fandom has been rough. I was going to make fun of you for trying this with a fan base than has been dealing with it for half a century or so but now I'm convinced.
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You know, I'm actually from New Jersey and yet I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan, but I can explain. My dad is from Sweden and he loved hockey, so we were a New York Rangers household during their dynasty in the 90s, but American Football never really interested him so I never really watched it either. My parents hosted Super Bowl parties but they were basically just a social event that they enjoyed doing. Neither of them really gave a poo poo about football, or the Giants or Jets or Packers or Cowboys or whoever, though plenty of their adult friends did of course. My friends and I were giant nerds who didn't like any sports whatsoever and we just went to another room and played video games while the adults did their Super Bowl party drinking and gambling thing. My dad did take me to a Giants game once when I was 8 years old or so - he probably got the tickets from a friend or coworker or something. We sat in the nosebleeds and all I can really remember about it was thinking that football players were really stupid because they kept running into each other while I believed a much smarter strategy would be to run outside of the mass of linemen. For all I know they actually were doing that - our seats were so far away from the field that I had no idea where the football actually was, and I didn't know what any of the position players were supposed to do anyway. My Euro Dad wasn't exactly helpful with explaining the basics of the game and translating the action for me either.... Actually for all I know I might have been at a Jets game. All I really know is the field said Giants on it.  I was 14 when my parents divorced in 2002 and my mom moved us down to the Dallas area. Most of my new friends were Cowboys fans, and they were always on TV, so I ended up watching Cowboys games. My formative moment as a football fan was during a game in 2004 or 2005, sitting in the screened in porch behind my friend's house watching the Cowboys play against the Eagles, smoking some of my first cigarettes while watching them go absolutely apeshit at a late touchdown pass, and hearing some neighbors down the alley screaming and hollering at the same time while watching the game in their garages. That's when I fell in love with football, and with the Dallas Cowboys. I watched Romo become a starter, I watched the botched snap in Seattle, I watched the Patrick Clayton drop that lost the game in the divisional round the following year against the Giants when we were 13-3, I watched us lose to the Eagles 44-6 and I somehow still had enough naive hope to be devastated when the Vikings crushed us in 2009. I watched the 2010 collapse and became more and more cynical with each 8-8 season being lost on the final game of the season after that. I never believed we would win the Kyle Orton game last year. I have never watched any of the Cowboys Super Bowl runs. I've never seen my team reach the NFC Championship Game, something only Detroit and Washington fans over the same time period can also say. So, you know, gently caress your sour grapes from the 90s. I understand your pain as a Detroit or Washington or Buffalo fan but at least you always knew you had a loser on your hands. Cincinnati fans, I can relate to you. Having hope pulled out from under you to the point that continuing to have hope feels hopeless... really really sucks. I respect the devotion of Eagles and Giants fans but wish there was a universal gag order against you sons of bitches. I watched you go to several NFC Championship Games and Super Bowls in years you weren't even that good in, and at the expense of my team. This year is my turn. I naively believe. Go Cowboys. 
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MourningView posted:This is also fine, and if anything probably shows good judgment since it would mean you are not limiting your enjoyment of the sport out of some dumb childish loyalty to an ever shifting group of people who could not possibly care less about you and whose only connection to you is the stupid outfit they are required to wear by their employer. I disagree. It isn't the players I root for so much as its the symbol on the side of the helmet and what it represents and the memory and history of it. If you only care about players or whichever team is currently the best you'll just run around and have fun and do well at fantasy football. But you won't go through the same kind of agony and misery that make the joy from the successes that much sweeter and euphoric. When your loyal to something you put a higher stake in it. There isn't anything inherently wrong with being a bandwagon fan who switches teams every year but I honestly do think less of them as fans because I know at least some of them are just the same kinds of people who aren't able to cope with failure and who will unplug the computer rather than lose a game on it.
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Randandal posted:vvvv Like you wouldn't be appalled at only finding an abortion-era Chiefs-Raiders game on the radio when you were hoping to find something decent. No I was completely agreeing with you, no one should be exposed to Matt Cassel other than the (I assume few) Pats fans who wanted to keep him. Randandal posted:Cincinnati fans, I can relate to you. Having hope pulled out from under you to the point that continuing to have hope feels hopeless... really really sucks. Yeah I lost you here.
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MourningView posted:it's a stupid game where people try to move a goofy egg shaped ball from one side of the field to another who gives a poo poo who someone roots for If John Kerry doesn't use the name Manny Ortez he's probably elected president in 2004
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MourningView posted:This is also fine, and if anything probably shows good judgment since it would mean you are not limiting your enjoyment of the sport out of some dumb childish loyalty to an ever shifting group of people who could not possibly care less about you and whose only connection to you is the stupid outfit they are required to wear by their employer. So what you're saying is...Mel is actually the best fan ever. It's all clear to me now. Mel is ahead of the curve.
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Grittybeard posted:No I was completely agreeing with you, no one should be exposed to Matt Cassel other than the (I assume few) Pats fans who wanted to keep him. I forgot that you are a Chiefs fan. It gets better.  If Dez somehow doesnt get franchised and he leaves after this season you and the Rams are the only teams I could tolerate seeing him sign with.
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Randandal posted:So, you know, gently caress your sour grapes from the 90s. I understand your pain as a Detroit or Washington or Buffalo fan but at least you always knew you had a loser on your hands. Cincinnati fans, I can relate to you. Having hope pulled out from under you to the point that continuing to have hope feels hopeless... really really sucks. I respect the devotion of Eagles and Giants fans but wish there was a universal gag order against you sons of bitches. I watched you go to several NFC Championship Games and Super Bowls in years you weren't even that good in, and at the expense of my team. hmmm yes dim times hey everybody a little sympathy plz, see I'm a fan of the Broncos historically one of the most successful franchises in league history and we've been to so many Superbowls that they may as well etch our name on the trophy before the season even begins, oh and our starting QB is like, the greatest QB of all time, but we only came second last year after destroying the entire league up to that point and I could really use a hug -- especially from you Detroit/Washington/Buffalo fans y'all don't know my struggle
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Randandal posted:
Philly is the only team in the division to never win a Superbowl, so until that happens, and every other team that's never won one gets theirs, save your rhetoric about who's turn it is.
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WeLandedOnTheMoon! posted:Philly is the only team in the division to never win a Superbowl, so until that happens, and every other team that's never won one gets theirs, save your rhetoric about who's turn it is. counterpoint: gently caress Philly. It's their "turn" when they earn it MourningView posted:it's a stupid game where people try to move a goofy egg shaped ball from one side of the field to another who gives a poo poo who someone roots for Seriously. On a related note why do we need these "you should root for/like my team this week because..." posts every single week? Stop worrying about who likes your team, especially if you're a Cowboys fan. People are going to hate your team. That's how it goes. TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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The Little Kielbasa posted:Dude, that isn't in the same ballpark as being a fan of a team like Detroit. Even in the "lost decade" of the 00's, the Cowboys were a game over .500 (http://home.jps.net/~fos/nfl/nfl00s.htm), went to the playoffs 3x, and won a couple playoff games. The Lions were 42-119 during that same period. That's a bad team. Dallas has five rings. One of a just a few teams that won multiple super bowls with different core rosters. The winningest NFC team (and #3 overall) since the merger. Take it from me; a Steelers fan married to a Bills fan and best friends with a Browns fan. You and I have absolutely no idea what it's like to be emotionally invested in a truly bad NFL team. This is the most salient point to come out of the last page. Also, MV giving thumbs up to bandwagon fans... that was loving beautiful. No really, I'm tearing up. I'm going to etch that poo poo into the world's smallest violin so that whenever someone riffs on them for being a lovely sports fan, I can play it for them. Atlanta sports sorrow: the struggle is real. (Hawks, Bitch!)
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pasaluki posted:the same kind of agony and misery that make the joy from the successes that much sweeter and euphoric there is nothing I want to experience from watching sports less than agony and misery, so I'll take my slightly less highs in exchange for never feeling sad from sports again. as a Bills fan, do you even remember what the sweet and euphoric parts feel like?
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Aye Doc posted:there is nothing I want to experience from watching sports less than agony and misery, so I'll take my slightly less highs in exchange for never feeling sad from sports again. as a Bills fan, do you even remember what the sweet and euphoric parts feel like? You just beat the Pats in Foxboro and finished above .500 - rejoice!
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WeLandedOnTheMoon! posted:Philly is the only team in the division to never win a Superbowl, so until that happens, and every other team that's never won one gets theirs, save your rhetoric about who's turn it is. Karma is a bitch.
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Aye Doc posted:there is nothing I want to experience from watching sports less than agony and misery, so I'll take my slightly less highs in exchange for never feeling sad from sports again. as a Bills fan, do you even remember what the sweet and euphoric parts feel like? Oh yeah! Obviously winning the Superbowl would be the ultimate but if you expect a Superbowl win every year then most likely you'll be disappointed anyway. There is even a perverse joy in rooting for a team when they have a bad season because you get to talk poo poo about them and when they become good again you can see how the team has grown over the years like a chia pet which is oddly very satisfying. The only time when I'd say it wasn't worth being a fan was during the Dick Jauron era because there was absolutely nothing enjoyable or likeable about the team. Watching the games was excruciating. The team was mediocre at everything, completely listless and boring. I came close to giving up on football but the day Dick Jauron was fired I changed my mind. I had a rush of Euphoria
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Mr. Nice! posted:I don't expect someone from Oklahoma to be a Dallas fan even if they live just across the border on I-35. When the state you live in doesn't have a team, you tend to pick the close one. I live in northern Iowa so we have a lot of Viking and Packer fans
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Yaws posted:When the state you live in doesn't have a team, you tend to pick the close one. I live in northern Iowa so we have a lot of Viking and Packer fans True, but in my own personal experience people from Oklahoma tend to hate everything Texas Also go the panthers bitch
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I could be wrong here but i took that as subtle play on oklahoma state cowboys. Maybe im the one looking too far into it though.
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My dad grew up in Oklahoma and supports all the Dallas teams.
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Chilichimp posted:Atlanta sports sorrow: the struggle is real. (Hawks, Bitch!) Winning a bunch of regular season games is the Atlanta sports team version of winning a championship.
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Randandal posted:I forgot that you are a Chiefs fan. It gets better. I cannot imagine a more wasted career than the one Dez Bryant would have at KC
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