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Snapchat A Titty posted:wait how does it actually work? i suppose the terminal sends some timestamped data to the card which signs it and sends it back? i mean it cant have too much logic in there, that requires power, so i guess i always assumed that it just sent a card id but that would be hella easy to clone applepay sends a one use token to the bank and the bank has the information for which token corresponds to which account the merchant doesn't know who purchased what ever
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let's see what /r/uberdrivers has to say about all thisquote:Dear Uber...
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Jan 9, 2015 08:27
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As a Millennial I posted:read the thread i linked o i thought it was just about Apple pay. ic the post about chip cards now ty
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Jan 9, 2015 09:35
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eschaton posted:does he think QR codes were ever alive? he was explaining it to a room full of commercial bankers, some of whom still use blackberries
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Jan 9, 2015 09:55
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As a Millennial I posted:l m a o that's just how uber rolls. they've offered guaranteed fares/income in specific areas/time periods before, but it's just a gimmick to keep drivers from complaining about fare cuts and promotional prices until the news cycle is over. the fine print on the offer is always a thinly disguised "gently caress drivers gently caress drivers gently caress drivers", but uber doesn't advertise the fine print - you have to know to go looking for it. any driver who sees uber's promise of fare guarantees and doesn't immediately say "okay, what's the catch" gets fooled, and there's a sucker born every minute
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Jan 9, 2015 17:13
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uber's real innovation isn't a fluid labor market, it's applying american-style retail sale logic to the workforce, to confuse workers with offers that sound good but are actually lame "make $500 this friday*" :: "buy one get one 1/3 off**" * you must work 11 straight hours and pick up at least 15 rides, reject none and not be off your phone for more than any 15 minute period ** supply limited to stock on hand, discount taken from lower-priced item, with use of rewards card, not to be combined with any other offer
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Jan 9, 2015 17:32
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the requirement for 50 minutes of availability and 90% acceptance rate effectively prevents you from driving for lyft at the same time. and apparently they added a fuckload of drivers in anticipation of the New Years rush making a ride per hour nearly impossible. a bunch of people who drive for the standard level service are complaining about going all night without a single trip request because of a swarm of uberx jitneys being available.
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Jan 9, 2015 17:34
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like remember when jc penny hired ron johnson away from apple and he figured it was more efficient to just have lower pricing instead of 400 discount events per year [that was the actual number, more than one sale per day]? they almost went out of business americans will spend tons of money trying to get a "good deal" and uber is probably right in assuming that they will make wildly irrational work decisions to try to get a "bonus"
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Jan 9, 2015 17:37
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qirex posted:like remember when jc penny hired ron johnson away from apple and he figured it was more efficient to just have lower pricing instead of 400 discount events per year [that was the actual number, more than one sale per day]? they almost went out of business consumer purchase decisions are based on the perception of "getting a good deal" and not about getting a good price and jc penney is pretty much dead at this point as a result
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malls are dyin cloud
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Jan 9, 2015 17:44
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malls are designed to be at 90%+ capacity and if you see one with more than a couple empty spots it's in trouble
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Jan 9, 2015 17:46
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qirex posted:some people seemed disappointed when he explained why android can't have an easy equivalent to apple pay  I thought it was all just software fuckery and apparently android phones generally have some secure storage thing nowdays, so I'm not sure how it just can't
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Jan 9, 2015 17:46
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a discount event is like "men's pants 39% off" and "women's skirts 25% off", so each one counts separately
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qirex posted:malls are designed to be at 90%+ capacity and if you see one with more than a couple empty spots it's in trouble all malls are in trouble although tbf it's really annoying shopping at a brick & mortar store after you're used to the internet, unless it's like clothes i guess
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qirex posted:like remember when jc penny hired ron johnson away from apple and he figured it was more efficient to just have lower pricing instead of 400 discount events per year [that was the actual number, more than one sale per day]? they almost went out of business he also tried to make going to jcp a fancy high-end experience (almost like apple stores - gosh that's a weird coincidence!) so the guy's apparently got exactly one move and it only works when your target market has $$$
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malls are only really good for cosmetics, clothing, and scented products of whatever type like soaps or oils or perfume/cologne/etc
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ugh all the scents give me a loving headache
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PleasingFungus posted:I found the post it's kinda special how you have this weird personal vendetta against me yet i don't think i've ever seen one of your posts, other than the occasional angry ones following me around anyway i later found out that that story was actually from a movie, lol. i still tell it to people (with this qualification) when it seems appropriate though because i think despite the white racism it has a nice message about grief and revenge.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:malls are dyin cloud i liked indoor malls a lot. much more fun than these big-box malls-for-cars they plunk down in the middle of nowhere now
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Sagebrush posted:it's kinda special how you have this weird personal vendetta against me yet i don't think i've ever seen one of your posts, other than the occasional angry ones following me around jfc
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qirex posted:malls are designed to be at 90%+ capacity and if you see one with more than a couple empty spots it's in trouble this reminds me, i should make a trip up to the largest mall in the world. it's only an hour or two from where im living and the wikipedia stats are: Unlike other "dead malls", which have been characterized by the departure of tenants, the New South China Mall has been 99% vacant since its 2005 opening as very few merchants have ever signed up No. of stores and services 47 (20 planned) (Total spaces: 2350, Unoccupied: 2303)[1]
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Jan 9, 2015 18:04
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the new south china mall is not a mall it is a monument to poor planning and ego http://www.vagabondjourney.com/new-south-china-mall-the-worlds-largest-mall-is-still-99-deserted/
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Jan 9, 2015 18:08
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qirex posted:the new south china mall is not a mall it is a monument to poor planning and ego i kinda want to go there and buy something from one of the stores
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the best part of that article was "Canals run through the mall upon which gondolas were supposed to transport shoppers. They are now green cesspools."
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Jan 9, 2015 18:21
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giant empty shells are a modern chinese tradition though  there's a gigantic apartment complex in a prime shenzhen real estate area about 15 minutes away from me that's been completely vacant since it was built because it was intended for government workers, but a lot of local people thought it was too luxurious looking for civil servants, so the government said "ok fine, nobody gets to live there then"
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i was gonna say, "enormous mega-fast project that mysteriously starts rotting and falling apart a year after completion" sounds par for the course for mainland chinese construction :/
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Jan 9, 2015 18:36
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Sagebrush posted:it has a nice message about grief and revenge. the gently caress
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Jan 9, 2015 18:50
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lol @ sagebrush
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i stood outside a real estate office in shenzhen trying to do currency/time conversions in my head for less than 30 seconds before getting swarmed with agents trying to help me also seen ridiculously priced cars with ridiculously offputting paintjobs (like a purple bentley?) outside mixc
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As a Millennial I posted:the gently caress it just gets worse and worse
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extended trolling
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trolling's gotta be believable, dude
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As a Millennial I posted:trolling's gotta be believable, dude well, its certainly effective
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i read a really great article a while ago about the history of the shopping mall and it's a real shame about what happened to them but otoh they totally deserve to die knowing their history. originally they were imagined to be community centers that people would just go to for the hell of it just for the sake of being there. basically massive indoor parks with rec centers, public pools, shops, etc etc. the bean counters didn't think this was profitable enough so they changed it to the modern 'make sure everyone is just uncomfortable enough so they keep moving and don't loiter' and surprise no one likes going to them. this is also why malls are universally reviled by anyone on hallucinogens because that intentional discomfort is magnified to the point of pushing people to anxiety. cash ruins everything around me
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yeah mass market retail and tripping balls aren't really a good combo
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Necc0 posted:i read a really great article a while ago about the history of the shopping mall and it's a real shame about what happened to them but otoh they totally deserve to die knowing their history. originally they were imagined to be community centers that people would just go to for the hell of it just for the sake of being there. basically massive indoor parks with rec centers, public pools, shops, etc etc. the bean counters didn't think this was profitable enough so they changed it to the modern 'make sure everyone is just uncomfortable enough so they keep moving and don't loiter' and surprise no one likes going to them. lol that sounds interesting, did they mention any specific examples of what they do to make people keep moving?
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Necc0 posted:i read a really great article a while ago about the history of the shopping mall and it's a real shame about what happened to them but otoh they totally deserve to die knowing their history. originally they were imagined to be community centers that people would just go to for the hell of it just for the sake of being there. basically massive indoor parks with rec centers, public pools, shops, etc etc. the bean counters didn't think this was profitable enough so they changed it to the modern 'make sure everyone is just uncomfortable enough so they keep moving and don't loiter' and surprise no one likes going to them. that seems like a bit of revisionist history. the earliest malls were clearly just about "put a roof over my planned retail development and a bigger parking lot in" you can see this pretty well for example in the original cherry hill mall of 1961, which was one of the first east coast malls. there was plenty of nice decoration but it was basically window dressing for moving between the stores or the theater/arcade section.
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Nintendo Kid posted:that seems like a bit of revisionist history. the earliest malls were clearly just about "put a roof over my planned retail development and a bigger parking lot in" Actually, here's a good article that backs up what he's saying, pretty solidly. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/the-last-shopping-mall/
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As a Millennial I posted:the gently caress You seriously can't read the message inside that story ("the desire for revenge consumes you, mercy sets you free") just because it's framed as a noble-savage thing huh. Shrug
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Jonny 290 posted:Actually, here's a good article that backs up what he's saying, pretty solidly. it's even on fuckin wikipedia so I'm not sure how he missed it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southdale_Center
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