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zoux posted:Deep Hurting isn't syndicated is he? I mean, I know he's controversial here but I don't think you can deny the dude is a talented artist. Kreider only published in alt weeklies, so I don't know what they are looking for. I think part of it is just a similar situation to the funny pages where you have a bunch of entrenched guys that are clearly past their prime and refuse to retire and open up the doors for more people. Also, places are hurting for money so they're more than likely to keep the mainstays and fire the up-and-comers who have yet to really "prove" themselves. Also, I think there's something of a self-fulfilling prophecy where people don't care about political cartoons because "political cartoons are poo poo" so papers don't work as hard to hire quality cartoonists and thus political cartoons that get published are largely poo poo. Take this with a grain of salt since this is purely conjecture on my part, and I have no personal connection to "the biz" or whatever. But the problems with cartooning is definitely not a lack of talent.
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zoux posted:Deep Hurting isn't syndicated is he? I mean, I know he's controversial here but I don't think you can deny the dude is a talented artist. Kreider only published in alt weeklies, so I don't know what they are looking for. Kreider's retired from cartooning, isn't he?
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He's definitely retired from political stuff. The Bush administration was apparently not good for his mental health.
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prefect posted:Kreider's retired from cartooning, isn't he? He is, but he's an unbelievably talent artist. I mean, I guess his content is going to be way to outre for newspapers, but when guys like Branco and LIccar and Catalino and Gorrell are making mint when there are artists who are ten times as good, you just wonder why this isn't a merit based industry.
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Sandpuppy posted:Boehner looks like he came straight from a Gorillaz video. They all do. I've never seen Telnaes' work before, she's really talented.
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Hitler B. Natural posted:Has the thread heard from McCoy the Lesser or Lisa Benson yet? "I'd rather rip off someone else's cartoon than think up my own idea for a cartoonist's eulogy" - Lisa Benson For those not following the news: the French police have killed the Charlie Hebdo shooters.
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The dude who made this is making $3,500+ a month on Patreon. Yup.
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Rorus Raz posted:The dude who made this is making $3,500+ a month on Patreon. Are the cartoons something he does in his spare time?
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prefect posted:Are the cartoons something he does in his spare time? How many iterations of this thread have you been around? You should know by now that talent and payment are entirely disconnected here. 
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T-man posted:How many iterations of this thread have you been around? You should know by now that talent and payment are entirely disconnected here. Hope and/or naivete spring eternal. 
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prefect posted:Are the cartoons something he does in his spare time? 
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Meh. I'm happy that any cartoonist can make a living at this ...I guess I should point out that I'm a cartoonist myself, so I have different viewpoints than most non-artists here  (and yeah, I'm not the greatest artist around, but I'm aiming to improve)
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I know for a fact that everyone in DnD likes to pretend they've never heard of the Something Awful frontpage, but right now it has a good collection of horrible DeviantArt tributes to Charlie Hebdo. This one is my favourite by a long way:  The #jesuischarlie hashtag on DeviantArt is a goldmine for worthless tributes, mainly consisting of very bad artists shoehorning their OCs/fursonas into the tragedy.  1 2 3 4 5They're all pretty much like this.
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zoux posted:He is, but he's an unbelievably talent artist. I mean, I guess his content is going to be way to outre for newspapers, but when guys like Branco and LIccar and Catalino and Gorrell are making mint when there are artists who are ten times as good, you just wonder why this isn't a merit based industry. Too outre? The guy who drew "Graveyard Shift at the Pussy Juice Factory"?
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Bruce Rauner is being a petulant dick to media, which means I'm sure we'll get a fawning tribute from Eric Allie soon enough. It'll at least be less obnoxious than his recent "Al Sharpton is the cause of all violence" dumbass streak.
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Gilganixon posted:
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Rorus Raz posted:The dude who made this is making $3,500+ a month on Patreon. Ironically, this is yet more proof that a loving God cannot exist.
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Mister Beeg posted:Meh. I'm happy that any cartoonist can make a living at this
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D.N. Nation posted:Bruce Rauner is being a petulant dick to media, which means I'm sure we'll get a fawning tribute from Eric Allie soon enough. It'll at least be less obnoxious than his recent "Al Sharpton is the cause of all violence" dumbass streak.
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Rorus Raz posted:Let me be clear that it's really cool that Patreon is serving as another way for artists to make a living. However, it's hard to get pumped about a transphobic, misogynist, homophobic and all-around rear end in a top hat dude making a living off his lovely Christian version of the Oatmeal when far better cartoonists are struggling to get even a few hundred a month. I hadn't heard of this guy before, but wow. I wonder if the Oatmeal guy can sue him or something. It would be fun, at least. 
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Best Bad Reporter Mister Beeg posted:Meh. I'm happy that any cartoonist can make a living at this Was surprised to hear you're only 25, because from your cartoons I get the feeling a lot of your influences are pretty old. Like Krazy Kat old, or early FBOFW. Am I close? Gilganixon posted:I know for a fact that everyone in DnD likes to pretend they've never heard of the Something Awful frontpage, but right now it has a good collection of horrible DeviantArt tributes to Charlie Hebdo.  Hell yeah bub. I haven't had a "political cartoons or deviantart" feature since, what, the Boston Marathon bombing?
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Broken Loose posted:My absolute favorite detail is that Clarence Thomas is silent. It's still not completely true to life unless he's asleep. KiteAuraan posted:Because he realized he can change it to mean "Obama said a thing and motivated the evil Saracens to commit their evil acts of terrible violence! It also makes it slightly more difficult for people to find the speech in it's full context, which is a pretty masterful move for such a dumbass individual. Broken Cog posted:Allie honestly feels like he's just in it for the money. He knows what his audience wants, and he draws it. This describes 95% of all US political cartoonists and is the exact reason they are all so lovely. Except Rall, he just draws whatever he wants to hear.  1 2 3They loooooove Mort.  4Where is the poo poo plane?  5If only everyone had giant buck teeth.  6What about murderers of art? Barry has a challenger.  7Et tu, SWEN?
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Internet Webguy posted:
They need to be quiet. The bones are sleeping it off, the Skeleton Frat Party was one for the ages.
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Out of all the people to be able to see Death, he had to get these jerks.
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gently caress you. It's "Je t'aiiiime mort!"
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Shugojin posted:Out of all the people to be able to see Death, he had to get these jerks.
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Rorus Raz posted:Mister Beeg's style reminds me of the old newspaper comic "Broom Hilda" That's the one. I could only vaguely recall it but knew it was stylistically close. Jedit posted:gently caress you. I want to see a cartoon of, like, a terrorist with a smoking gun in one hand and a bloody knife in the other and he's belting out "Non, je ne regrette rien!"
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Shugojin posted:Out of all the people to be able to see Death, he had to get these jerks. "THERE ARE TIMES", he said with an air of unmistakable anger, "WHEN I GET VERY UPSET." Je suis un chaton, I guess?
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video of Steve Bell drawing/explaining his last cartoon This one is literally a Charlie Hebdo cartoon with the signs added Jedit posted:It's "Je t'aiiiime mort!" no it isn't  There is no innocent cartoonist. Every cartoon is deliberate  
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colonel_korn posted:Allie is hilariously lazy these days. He puts out like maybe 2 cartoons a week and is the only somewhat prominent cartoonist I can think of who couldn't even be arsed to draw anything about Charlie Hebdo over the last couple of days. Even 80-year-old Oliphant was roused from his slumber. At least he doesn't C&P GIS results? But yeah, his output has really fallen off, even considering Prickly lovely stuff. The "insight" he gave into those Illinois governor race cartoons can be boiled down to "Rauner awesome, media mean," which, who cares?
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Rorus Raz posted:Let me be clear that it's really cool that Patreon is serving as another way for artists to make a living. However, it's hard to get pumped about a transphobic, misogynist, homophobic and all-around rear end in a top hat dude making a living off his lovely Christian version of the Oatmeal when far better cartoonists are struggling to get even a few hundred a month. Oh. I never heard of this guy, so I didn't know he drew stuff like this. Sorry Saint Sputnik posted:Was surprised to hear you're only 25, because from your cartoons I get the feeling a lot of your influences are pretty old. Like Krazy Kat old, or early FBOFW. Am I close? )But yeah, it's no shock that older cartoons were my big influence. I credit my dad for giving me a book on the history of old comics when I was a kid. Rorus Raz posted:Mister Beeg's style reminds me of the old newspaper comic "Broom Hilda" Mister Beeg fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Shugojin posted:Out of all the people to be able to see Death, he had to get these jerks.
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