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# ? Jan 9, 2015 16:19 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 22:47 |
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theres a lot of romaji misspellings
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 16:25 |
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Kanie Seiya is truly beautiful.
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 16:37 |
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Sakurazuka posted:Take a drink every time you spot a death flag ~dead within seconds~ Seriously. If Kaori some-crazy-how lives out this show, everything I know about anime is wrong.
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# ? Jan 10, 2015 15:19 |
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It's really not that unbelievable, Kaori is meant to deliberately parallel Kousei's mother, down to the occasional bit of physical and emotional abuse. Except that this time Kousei is older and is going to do it right, and after Kaori collapses on stage and becomes bedridden, Kousei will find within himself the strength to ~carry on~.
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# ? Jan 10, 2015 15:28 |
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I am excited for next episode. Ever since I read the corresponding manga chapter I have been waiting for it to be animated. Probably my favorite so far. If you paid attention in this episode you should be able to guess at some of what will happen.
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# ? Jan 10, 2015 22:57 |
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Phobophilia posted:It's really not that unbelievable, Kaori is meant to deliberately parallel Kousei's mother, down to the occasional bit of physical and emotional abuse. Except that this time Kousei is older and is going to do it right, and after Kaori collapses on stage and becomes bedridden, Kousei will find within himself the strength to ~carry on~. No that's what we are saying this chick was practically DOA
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# ? Jan 11, 2015 01:26 |
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linall posted:Seriously. If Kaori some-crazy-how lives out this show, everything I know about anime is wrong. Twist in the end: Kaori lives, Tsubaki dies. The death flag was for someone else all along!
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# ? Jan 11, 2015 02:25 |
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paragon1 posted:No that's what we are saying this chick was practically DOA Maybe I should add an extra sentence. This time Kousei's performance does reach the heavens and Kaori won't die.
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# ? Jan 11, 2015 03:46 |
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So she's dead/bedridden now I guess? It was obviously coming, but I didn't think it would happen like this. I wonder how he's going to explain away being a solo piano at a violin gala concert, if at all. Btw I just binged this show over 2 days an it is amazing. Even some of the shoehorned comedy bits didn't suck.
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# ? Jan 13, 2015 21:37 |
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At this point I'm convinced that since there's is so much foreshadowing that she'll bite the dust, she will survive. Probably through the magical healing power of music.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 20:36 |
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SweetBro posted:At this point I'm convinced that since there's is so much foreshadowing that she'll bite the dust, she will survive. Probably through the magical healing power of music. This is anime. Not only will she probably live, but we'll probably also find out that his Mom isn't even dead, she was just off looking for his cat the whole time. ~~HAPPY ENDING~~
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 23:00 |
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Phobophilia posted:Maybe I should add an extra sentence. This time Kousei's performance does reach the heavens and Kaori won't die. Never pegged you for an optimist Phobophilia.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 00:48 |
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I think it's pretty clear that Kaori will die. Somehow, this event will make Kousei a better musician. His mother's death moved him from B2 to B4. Now, Kaori's death will move him from B4 to B8. Queen me. Check mate. Off into the sunset goes our new master musician. It's sad the deaths he's suffered, but his music is wonderful because of it..... Or something like that. The only question I have is whether or not he gets Tsubaki. They were childhood friends, after all. By all laws anime and such, they should end up together. That's the real suspense here.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 00:53 |
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Tsubaki deserves better.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 01:01 |
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Dan7el posted:The only question I have is whether or not he gets Tsubaki. They were childhood friends, after all. By all laws anime and such, they should end up together. That's the real suspense here. First Girl rules trump everything else.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 01:08 |
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Dan7el posted:I think it's pretty clear that Kaori will die. Somehow, this event will make Kousei a better musician. His mother's death moved him from B2 to B4. Now, Kaori's death will move him from B4 to B8. Queen me. Check mate. Off into the sunset goes our new master musician. It's sad the deaths he's suffered, but his music is wonderful because of it.....
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 01:47 |
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Everybody knows that since Kaori is gonna die, the One true kousei waifu will step up. It's emi
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 01:52 |
I play it so... you'll get used to sorrow. holy dusty onion factory made of capsaicin powder
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 02:24 |
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Ah, yup... it looks like it's beginning to rain.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 02:59 |
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OneDeadman posted:Everybody knows that since Kaori is gonna die, the One true kousei waifu will step up.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 03:23 |
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I have... sorely misjudged Arima oka-san
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 06:09 |
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'His growth is spurred by sorrow..' So Kousei is basically Kenshiro with a piano.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 14:20 |
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Razzled posted:I have... sorely misjudged Arima oka-san Well, that was pretty much the sole point of the episode. The evil mom ghost was entirely Arima's creation, as an excuse to stop playing to he didn't have to deal with the pain of being unable to hear the music he creates, but imo his mom is still a pretty lovely mom because she was so lost in her own desires that she was blinded to the true extent of Arima's suffering. It took him telling her to gently caress off to make her realize that.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 15:19 |
ViggyNash posted:Well, that was pretty much the sole point of the episode. Yea, lost in her own desire... to make sure Arima was ready for life after her death while trying to deal with said approaching death simultaneously, what a lovely mom
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 15:35 |
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She was in a really bad situation, and I am glad that Arima realised that she was not evil, but abuse is still abuse even if it has the best intentions behind it. I wouldn't call her a lovely mother all things considered, but she still messed her own son up for many years.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 15:46 |
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AnacondaHL posted:Yea, lost in her own desire... to make sure Arima was ready for life after her death while trying to deal with said approaching death simultaneously, what a lovely mom She beat him until he bled. Good intentions, lovely mothering.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 15:47 |
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Takoluka posted:She beat him until he bled. Good intentions, lovely mothering. tl;dr for my post, basically.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 16:01 |
Takoluka posted:She beat him until he bled. Good intentions, lovely mothering. Not that I condone beating a child until they bleed, since (at least in modern western helicopter parenting carebear culture) that wouldn't fly, but at least she gave a poo poo about her kid, up until her last day alive. I can think of plenty worse things a lovely mother would actually do, especially ones dealing with their own approaching death. But I'll concede the pedantic angle since everything under the 90th percentile can be considered poo poo tier on the Something Awful Forums. She's not winning any Mom Of The Year awards, nor any Hey You Were Decent participation ribbons, but there are different views on corporal punishment out there.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 16:52 |
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 16:58 |
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AnacondaHL posted:but there are different views on corporal punishment out there. They are the wrong views.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 17:14 |
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He may have been beat until he bled, but at least she didn't beat him till he was unconscious. Things could've been worse! vvHiveCommander posted:I for one, accept Charlie Brown as the new non-terminal love interest I second this motion. Alpha Kenny Juan fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jan 16, 2015 |
# ? Jan 16, 2015 17:35 |
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AnacondaHL obviously got a whuppin' as a child and it didn't do him no harm.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 17:42 |
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ViggyNash posted:Well, that was pretty much the sole point of the episode. Ok so I disagree with you and I'll explain why. With that last episode, and especially the flashbacks to Hiroko's memories post-smackdown we know a lot more about what was going on with his mom obviously. She wasn't lost in her own desires so much as completely stuck on the path they had chosen for Kousei when she was healthy. Imagine a single mother in America today whose only child is on track to become a musician but you're not sure if he'll be good enough (what is ever a sure thing in parenting?) to "make it" which is a common problem in the arts. Now throw into the mix the fact that you're not gonna be around to help him whether he makes it or not, but it's too late to change because it's the track you've put him on as a parent. I think her desperation to take care of him definitely got the better of her but I don't think him telling her to gently caress off made anything in her click. If anything it was catharsis for her because it was a moment where he showed true independence and maybe even represented hope that he would be able to take care of himself later on. The one actual desire that Kousei's mother had was for him to live well and be able to take care of himself when she was gone. oh god did i just sperg out about animes
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 18:06 |
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Razzled posted:oh god did i just sperg out about animes yess yesss it sustains us
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 18:34 |
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Razzled posted:Ok so I disagree with you and I'll explain why. With that last episode, and especially the flashbacks to Hiroko's memories post-smackdown we know a lot more about what was going on with his mom obviously. She wasn't lost in her own desires so much as completely stuck on the path they had chosen for Kousei when she was healthy. Imagine a single mother in America today whose only child is on track to become a musician but you're not sure if he'll be good enough (what is ever a sure thing in parenting?) to "make it" which is a common problem in the arts. Now throw into the mix the fact that you're not gonna be around to help him whether he makes it or not, but it's too late to change because it's the track you've put him on as a parent. I think her desperation to take care of him definitely got the better of her but I don't think him telling her to gently caress off made anything in her click. If anything it was catharsis for her because it was a moment where he showed true independence and maybe even represented hope that he would be able to take care of himself later on. So her terminal illness made her desperate enough about her dream of turning Arima into a renown musician to abuse her child using corporal punishment, and even beat him bloody after he got a standing ovation from the audience. Yeah...
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 19:17 |
Sakurazuka posted:AnacondaHL obviously got a whuppin' as a child and it didn't do him no harm. Nah, I'm an insignificant data point in the eventless childhood to boring adult demographic.
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 19:44 |
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AnacondaHL posted:Not that I condone beating a child until they bleed, since (at least in modern western helicopter parenting carebear culture) that wouldn't fly, but at least she gave a poo poo about her kid, up until her last day alive. I can think of plenty worse things a lovely mother would actually do, especially ones dealing with their own approaching death. yikes
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 19:54 |
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ViggyNash posted:So her terminal illness made her desperate enough about her dream of turning Arima into a renown musician to abuse her child using corporal punishment, and even beat him bloody after he got a standing ovation from the audience. I want to avoid turning this into an argument about what constitutes child abuse but that might be impossible. Frankly, sometimes children just can't see logic so it's hard to fault parents who choose a more tangible form of punishment as a way to correct behavior. That's not to say that it's the One Right Way or if it's even right at all. The point I guess is that she wasn't doing it out of spite or negligence, it was a genuine kind of desperate "tough love". So I guess how you view it depends on whether you put more weight on the intent or the utility of the action. A parent-child relationship is a learning experience for both sides and there's always bound to be mistakes when people are pushed to their limits. It doesn't excuse her mistakes but I don't think it necessarily goes against the fact that ultimately she was doing everything out of love for Kousei. It's not like there's a book for "How to raise a self-sufficient musical genius despite constant tragedy". gently caress you viggy why are you making me do this
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 19:59 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 22:47 |
Also, in non-depressing child abuse discussion, I loved how they had all the goofy crowd hype reaction shots, yet kept it real to include at least one obligatory dude who was dragged to the concert and would rather be watching football or something:
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# ? Jan 16, 2015 20:00 |