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Badger of Basra posted:Won't Hagan be seen as a loser if she runs just two years after being beaten? Didn't seem to hurt Brown too much. Well, yeah, he lost, but it was drat close, and he also had the baggage of carpetbagging.
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Badger of Basra posted:Won't Hagan be seen as a loser if she runs just two years after being beaten? Romney will be President some day, thus Hagan should run again. There is not really a tinge of "loser", it is a political myth.
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Jan 6, 2015 21:52
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Nonsense posted:Romney will be President some day, thus Hagan should run again. There is not really a tinge of "loser", it is a political myth. Romney's lost twice on a national stage and once on the state level. Hagan lost a close election in a Republican year with monumentally lovely turnout. There's a difference there.
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Jan 6, 2015 21:58
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Examples to refute the loser myth: two people who lost again after having lost once.
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Jan 6, 2015 21:58
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Badger of Basra posted:Examples to refute the loser myth: two people who lost again after having lost once. Bqhatevwr, dude.
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Jan 6, 2015 21:59
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Brown will win in Massachusetts also. He'll crack that egg.
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Jan 6, 2015 22:01
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Nonsense posted:Brown will win in Massachusetts also. He'll crack that egg. Is he off to the Vermonty part of Massaschusetts now?
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Jan 6, 2015 22:09
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Nth Doctor posted:Is he off to the Vermonty part of Massaschusetts now? No, he's pretty much exhausted the opportunities for places that will tolerate his poo poo. Vermont's too liberal, Connecticut won't fall for the barn coat act (they're not as "live free of taxes" as New Hampshire), and Maine and Rhode Island have already got two established Senators. I guess he'll have to look elsewhere 
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Jan 6, 2015 22:53
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Barbara Boxer will not be running for re-election. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrhCFGCbPaI
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Jan 8, 2015 17:27
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Joementum posted:Barbara Boxer will not be running for re-election. Why did I think we already knew this? Did she announce it late last year? Either way, it'll either be Gavin Newsom or Eric Garcetti.
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Alter Ego posted:Why did I think we already knew this? Did she announce it late last year? We talked about it a page ago.
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Jan 8, 2015 17:35
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Alter Ego posted:Why did I think we already knew this? Did she announce it late last year? It's been discussed for the last couple months or so and most figured she would announce that she wouldn't run. Don't forget Harris, though she's probably more interested in the governor's seat.
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LA Mayor Garcetti won't run for Senate. Carly Fiorina is no longer a resident of California, though she's got over a year if she wants to change that.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Dems are trying to recruit several former Senators to run again in 2016, but they are reluctant to commit. Without these three candidates they don't have strong Senate benches in these states that are must wins to take the Senate back. The DSCC is trying to recruit: What I don't get is why everyone keeps saying Foxx won't run against Burr. What else is he gonna do? The governor's race is already spoken for, and who goes from a cabinet job back to city mayor? He could go lobby, but that seems more of a retirement gig.
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comes along bort posted:What I don't get is why everyone keeps saying Foxx won't run against Burr. What else is he gonna do? The governor's race is already spoken for, and who goes from a cabinet job back to city mayor? He could go lobby, but that seems more of a retirement gig. Stay in cabinet, assuming Hillary or another Democrat wins.
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Jan 9, 2015 07:43
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Cliff Racer posted:Stay in cabinet, assuming Hillary or another Democrat wins. Or assuming she doesn't already have her own pick in mind.
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Jan 9, 2015 07:51
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Feingold hinted in 2013 that he might be "a candidate" in 2016, so I wouldn't rule him out just yet. Granted, his "hint" consisted of him saying "I don't come to you as a candidate, at least not in 2013 or 2014, or 2015" but a guy can dream can't he? 
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Jan 9, 2015 08:11
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I really hope he runs again. It's ridiculous that he lost to begin with.
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The Maroon Hawk posted:Feingold hinted in 2013 that he might be "a candidate" in 2016, so I wouldn't rule him out just yet. Granted, his "hint" consisted of him saying "I don't come to you as a candidate, at least not in 2013 or 2014, or 2015" but a guy can dream can't he? The DSCC is openly trying to recruit him to run against Johnson and the Roll Call article says he hasn't committed to it yet, but is considered likely to.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I really hope he runs again. It's ridiculous that he lost to begin with. No, what's ridiculous is that he knows where Washington is on a map. That's offensive and disqualifies him for office. In Washington.
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comes along bort posted:What I don't get is why everyone keeps saying Foxx won't run against Burr. What else is he gonna do? The governor's race is already spoken for, and who goes from a cabinet job back to city mayor? He could go lobby, but that seems more of a retirement gig. This post really confused me until I clicked the link and realized you were not talking about Virginia Foxx
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mooyashi posted:This post really confused me until I clicked the link and realized you were not talking about Virginia Foxx  In other news to no one's surprise Villaraigosa's likely running .
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Jan 10, 2015 22:31
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I haven't heard much from Villaraigosa in years, aside from him getting disgraced in an affair or something before leaving the mayor's office.
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Jan 10, 2015 22:33
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I haven't heard much from Villaraigosa in years, aside from him getting disgraced in an affair or something before leaving the mayor's office. I'd have definitely risked losing power over one of the largest municipalities in the United States for a fling with a journalist who actually covered me positively, what wife?
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I haven't heard much from Villaraigosa in years, aside from him getting disgraced in an affair or something before leaving the mayor's office. Was he any good as mayor?
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CaptainCarrot posted:Didn't seem to hurt Brown too much. Well, yeah, he lost, but it was drat close, and he also had the baggage of carpetbagging. I really don't think it is baggage. People just don't care about carpetbagging, at least on the level of US Senate. There's no shortage of political candidates who have succeeded despite carpetbagging. Most notable of which is Hillary Clinton, who won twice in New York. Hell, one of my Senator, Dan Coats, gave a speech saying he was glad to be out of Indiana and retired in North Carolina. But he still ran in 2010 and won. Now if Brown had lost my 10+ points in a Republican year like 2014, then I'd say it was an issue. But it really just wasn't that big of a deal. notthegoatseguy has issued a correction as of 22:58 on Jan 10, 2015 |
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Nonsense posted:I'd have definitely risked losing power over one of the largest municipalities in the United States for a fling with a journalist who actually covered me positively, what wife? I looked her up and she looks like the smile.jpg dog. Those teeth are terrifying.
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notthegoatseguy posted:I really don't think it is baggage. People just don't care about carpetbagging, at least on the level of US Senate. They do when it's Massachusetts and New Hampshire.
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Alter Ego posted:They do when it's Massachusetts and New Hampshire. I suspect that most people who believe that carpetbagging wasn't an issue in Brown's race don't realize just how much New Hampshire is dominated by the Boston media market.
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Carpetbagging is important. Even more so when you've NEVER had a tie to a particular state. It probably won't matter so much in a presidential race but many otherwise "good" candidates have been undone by the fact that they were only willing to live in, say, West Virginia if they were being voted on. Just look at how much lack of time in state hurt Lugar and Roberts (KS.)
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Badger of Basra posted:Was he any good as mayor?
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Wow I always thought Villaraigosa was slimy but I had no idea just how much. Anyway I'm split on if I want Kamala Harris running for governor or senator.
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Currently reading Loudest Voice In The Room, the biography about Roger Ailes, and this is the ad he produced in 1984 that got Mitch McConnell elected. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcpuhiIDx3Q
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Cliff Racer posted:Carpetbagging is important. Even more so when you've NEVER had a tie to a particular state. It probably won't matter so much in a presidential race but many otherwise "good" candidates have been undone by the fact that they were only willing to live in, say, West Virginia if they were being voted on. Just look at how much lack of time in state hurt Lugar and Roberts (KS.) Lugar wasn't hurt primarily by not being in the state. He was already looked at as a RINO by much of the base, and got forced out the same way other more moderate GOP congress people got forced out. If there'd been no tea party wave then he would have been fine because nobody would have cared. The right wing of the GOP looks at any congressman that's been there more than 2-3 terms as basically a carpetbagger even if they're from the state. It's just a meaningless slur they use to try to amp up how disconnected they feel the person is. They're literally pointing at successful congress people, and saying, "What're they spending so much time in Washington for, anyway!" Their success as politicians in keeping their jobs is being used as evidence against them. It's very Rovian.
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Gavin's out, leaving Harris, Villarigosa, and Steyer to fight it out for the CA Senate seat. One of those people is a billionaire. 
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Jan 13, 2015 01:10
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Joementum posted:Gavin's out, leaving Harris, Villarigosa, and Steyer to fight it out for the CA Senate seat. For what it's worth, I think Harris and Villarigosa have by far more name recognition than Steyer.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:For what it's worth, I think Harris and Villarigosa have by far more name recognition than Steyer. Something tells me the CA TV networks are going to find out exactly how much that's worth.
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Jan 13, 2015 01:18
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And now Harris is in. If she clears the field early it'll be really good for the CA Democrats. If there's a tough-fought primary, CA's idiotic top two system could cause issues.
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Jan 13, 2015 02:11
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Ah, sweet. I'm wondering who'll run for governor in 2018 though (and I hope it's just her in the field, given how our primary system works).
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I'm ready for Harris.
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