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Powershift posted:With more power, the manufacturer can give the car a more linear throttle without it feeling underpowered. The worst car for this that I've driven was a Citroën C1. With all of 69hp from a 1.0L 3-cylinder and a front-loaded throttle map, I barely had to touch the throttle in neutral for the revs to shoot to 3K. Once it got going it wasn't nearly as bad, but setting off smoothly took some getting used to. The brakes were really touchy too, which is another modern trick to make the brakes feel more powerful. Combined with the low weight and the brilliant rasp from the little engine, it did make the car feel very sprightly and immediate. Coming back to my older and bigger Peugeot felt very strange. The throttle map is much more linear, the brakes are significantly less boosted, and it weighs a good 500kg more than the C1. For a little while, it seriously felt like something was wrong with it.
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Powershift posted:With more power, the manufacturer can give the car a more linear throttle without it feeling underpowered. A lot of that is also due to tuning for mileage/emissions.
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Boss posted:Welp guess it's time to fly over to Germany, buy an RS6 and go on the road trip of a life time to Singapore. If you can even legally get the car on the road there you'd still need to pay the $400,000 (or whatever it works out to be) tax to get it into the country. Also Singapore is RHD so the car would need to come from the UK or Japan
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Jan 10, 2015 21:53
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Capitalist paradise, bribe someone.
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dissss posted:If you can even legally get the car on the road there you'd still need to pay the $400,000 (or whatever it works out to be) tax to get it into the country. I actually did a quick google search because I figured this was the case. It seems like you only have to pay 10,000 and an assload of paper work. I'm sure theres something I'm missing otherwise someone would've done this, but it's fun to dream/joke about.
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Boss posted:I actually did a quick google search because I figured this was the case. It seems like you only have to pay 10,000 and an assload of paper work. I'm sure theres something I'm missing otherwise someone would've done this, but it's fun to dream/joke about. I'm sure they'd quickly find a reason to arrest and then flog you. Singapore is fun, but Jesus loving Christ you have to be careful.
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Boss posted:I actually did a quick google search because I figured this was the case. It seems like you only have to pay 10,000 and an assload of paper work. I'm sure theres something I'm missing otherwise someone would've done this, but it's fun to dream/joke about. That $10,000 fee is actually on top of the normal duties
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Boss posted:I actually did a quick google search because I figured this was the case. It seems like you only have to pay 10,000 and an assload of paper work. I'm sure theres something I'm missing otherwise someone would've done this, but it's fun to dream/joke about. Singapore is bureaucratic af but they aren't really out to get you or anything
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2.7 ecoboost v6 in a transverse vehicle http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/10/2016-lincoln-mkx-images-details-leak/ next stop, focus RS! who's ready for 375ft/lbs in a front wheel drive.
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Powershift posted:2.7 ecoboost v6 in a transverse vehicle gently caress me, give us an AWD Fusion SHO already!
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Powershift posted:2.7 ecoboost v6 in a transverse vehicle Isn't the RS rumored to most likely get the 2.3? Which is already in a transverse, AWD application?
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fknlo posted:Isn't the RS rumored to most likely get the 2.3? Which is already in a transverse, AWD application? Yeah, but a guy can dream 
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Powershift posted:2.7 ecoboost v6 in a transverse vehicle I'm one of the people hoping the RS is AWD
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Mat_Drinks posted:I'm one of the people hoping the RS is AWD Most publications seem to be writing about it as AWD like it's a confirmed fact; but I haven't seen it confirmed by Ford yet so... 
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there's really no reason for it not to be other than the accounting department throwing a fit. What i would like to see out of the detroit auto show. ford: 3.5 ecoboost raptor. 380hp/460ft/llbs 350hp AWD focus 2.3eb RS new ford GT, under 100 grand packing the 5.2 flat plane Lincoln continental. RWD, anything beyond that is gravy. Long shot: new lightning with the gt500s 5.8 GM: new camaro something production ready budget performance. maybe production code 130r chrysler: hellcat ram hellcat wrangler hellcat durango hellcat dart hellcat renegade what we're likely to be dissapointed with: ford: 6.2 raptor concept only gt fwd focus rs GM: eco this, emissions that chrysler: underpowered overpriced diesels Powershift fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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Powershift posted:something production ready budget performance. maybe production code 130r I think they already said that concept wasn't going anywhere. The Chevy Bolt (small SUV with Volt powertrain) is confirmed though. EDIT: Kudos to GM for always giving appropriate model names to bars of soap on wheels that weigh 3800bs and have 84 hp engines.
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Powershift posted:there's really no reason for it not to be other than the accounting department throwing a fit. El Scotch posted:There's also apparently this on the Ford side of things ilkhan fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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Jan 11, 2015 06:23
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Blah. No new Taurus SHO or Fusion ST/Sport.
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2016 buick cascada 1.6 liter, 200hp, 206ft/lbs, and while that sounds impressive, remember that this car is nearly 4000lbs. 200hp, fwd, solid rear axle, 3800+lbs, and likely 40 grand. should sell like hotcakes.
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Weirdly enough I think the front end looks like a Saturn.
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There are going to be so loving many of those in my city, we're plagued with Sebrings and landau tops. I've seen 3 different Murano cross cabriolets at one time even.
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Yeah, they couldn't even be hosed to put the buick family grille on it. They literally just stuck a buick badge on the opel grille I wouldn't be surprised if you could just pop the buick logo off, and the opel one would still be there under it.  meet new GM, same as the old GM.
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Powershift posted:2016 buick cascada In Europe it's sold with even less powerful engines. The lowest end models has almost half the horsepower of the one they're going to be selling in America.
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Yeah, but europe also has 60hp hatchbacks, so they're used to not being able to get anywhere on time.
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I think you're pretty much right on. Press day is Monday right? Meaning most of the big announcements should come then?
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Mat_Drinks posted:I think you're pretty much right on. Yeah, today is the chaff day. when manufacturers get out all the junk that'll be forgotten once the good stuff is announced. monday the stage shows and unveilings and stuff happens. i'm surprised there haven't been any real teasers. http://www.naias.com/2015-show/public-show.aspx that page title  incase it gets fixed. 
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Powershift posted:2.7 ecoboost v6 in a transverse vehicle Powershift posted:Yeah, but europe also has 60hp hatchbacks, so they're used to not being able to get anywhere on time.
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InitialDave posted:How much fun is that engine going to be to work on in that kind of fitment? Mitsubishi 3000GT fun? It's a really small, narrow angle engine. doing the back turbo might be a pain in the rear end, but filters or plugs should be easy as hell. 
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Powershift posted:2016 buick cascada That's what any good cruiser needs, a solid rear axle.
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skipdogg posted:Blah. No new Taurus SHO or Fusion ST/Sport. Certainly disappointing on the Fusion. While the 2.0EB is no slouch, throwing the 2.3EB in there would make an already great car amazing. It already handles extremely well and looks great, but making it 310hp, 320ftlbs would be icing on the cake. I'd have to consider trading my Fusion Ti if that happens someday soon.
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Powershift posted:Yeah, they couldn't even be hosed to put the buick family grille on it. They literally just stuck a buick badge on the opel grille Haha what the gently caress. Were Buick grills deemed to expensive or something, god drat GM will never change. Its probably because it is built in Europe and was just a quick and dirty NA version. BabyMauler fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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Git Mah Belt Son posted:Certainly disappointing on the Fusion. While the 2.0EB is no slouch, throwing the 2.3EB in there would make an already great car amazing. It already handles extremely well and looks great, but making it 310hp, 320ftlbs would be icing on the cake. I'd have to consider trading my Fusion Ti if that happens someday soon. Or they could stick the twin-turbo straight-six in the Fusion. 
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El Scotch posted:Or they could stick the twin-turbo straight-six in the Fusion.
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Powershift posted:2016 buick cascada Overweight, 200hp, FWD, $40k... It's the Saab 9-3SE Convertible back to life!
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Powershift posted:It's a really small, narrow angle engine. doing the back turbo might be a pain in the rear end, but filters or plugs should be easy as hell. It's a really cool little engine but how much does it weigh? Given the turbos and iron block it might be a bit piggish for a FWD car.
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Wheeee posted:It's a really cool little engine but how much does it weigh? Given the turbos and iron block it might be a bit piggish for a FWD car. The 1.0 ecoboost is traditional cast iron. The 2.7 is CGI, compacted graphite iron, really neat stuff. closer to aluminum in terms of strength/weight and corrosion resistance. The difference between the all aluminum n/a 3.5 and CGI/aluminum twin turbo 2.7 with the turbo and intercooler and everything is less than 100lbs. It's 80lbs lighter than the all aluminum 5.0 V8.
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That's pretty neat, I didn't know CGI allowed that level of weight savings. It does however raise the question of why Ford can't drop a tuned 2.7 in the Mustang instead of the 2.3. Also put it in the Focus RS gently caress it.
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Wheeee posted:It does however raise the question of why Ford can't drop a tuned 2.7 in the Mustang instead of the 2.3.  FUEL EFFICIENCY
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Wheeee posted:That's pretty neat, I didn't know CGI allowed that level of weight savings.
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