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Narciss posted:I love how oppressed teens speaking their minds and defending their religion the only way they know how is "terrorism", while millions of reactionary white Europeans storming through the streets is a "rally". gently caress the Mainstream Media. What the gently caress are you talking about?
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Narciss posted:I love how oppressed teens speaking their minds and defending their religion the only way they know how is "terrorism", while millions of reactionary white Europeans storming through the streets is a "rally". gently caress the Mainstream Media. There's also instances of that, and it's called a riot, not a rally, but I am sure that's mostly related to the number of cars burned and shops destroyed. If white racists do that, it's also called a riot.
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Narciss posted:I love how oppressed teens speaking their minds and defending their religion the only way they know how is "terrorism", while millions of reactionary white Europeans storming through the streets is a "rally". gently caress the Mainstream Media. Peacefully demonstating in favor of liberal values against violently backward and conservatarded religion is 'reactionary?' You are a drooling idiot. I wish leftists would disown fuckers like this.
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Jan 11, 2015 16:54
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TheImmigrant posted:Peacefully demonstating in favor of liberal values against violently backward and conservatarded religion is 'reactionary?' This is some top-tier cringe. I have yet to see a criticism of Islam in this thread that is not dogwhistle racism for anti-Arab sentiment. ----------------
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Jan 11, 2015 16:56
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Muslims I could't say. Few non-whites in general. I'm hoping the percentage of Muslims in the population comes from other census means (number of mosques and number of members) Because otherwise that means it's legal to take a religious census but illegal to poll on other identifications  Narciss posted:I love how oppressed teens speaking their minds and defending their religion the only way they know how is "terrorism", while millions of reactionary white Europeans storming through the streets is a "rally". gently caress the Mainstream Media. Let people honor national martyrs (especially the police who were killed guarding the offices) - and remember that terror in defense of liberty is no vice. The mass media's sin is not explaining how this mindset is a secular mirror to the perceived opponent.
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Jan 11, 2015 16:57
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Narciss posted:This is some top-tier cringe. I have yet to see a criticism of Islam in this thread that is not dogwhistle racism for anti-Arab sentiment. Done.
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There should be a 'poo poo muslims say' thread so we can post dumb comments from radical muslims on fb and social media. Oh look 12 people got gunned down for a cartoon im going to complain about how i cant yell 'bomb bomb usa bomb bomb uk,' in the streets, oh wait why am i not gunned down my some uk extremist? Why am i even living in the uk?
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Cat Mattress posted:It is. I'm really skeptical that the French really believe in unrestricted freedom of speech since they have a very different attitude if you criticize Israel or Judiasm you could be subject to criminal penalties. Everyone has limits. Criticizing Islam is low hanging fruit, its hardly an unpopular opinion.
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Jan 11, 2015 16:58
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TheImmigrant posted:Peacefully demonstating in favor of liberal values against violently backward and conservatarded religion is 'reactionary?' It's part of the conservative mindset to demand "disowning" from inchoate others, it seems. But you demand the same of Muslims, and they do it, and you're like "WHERE IS IT? I SIMPLY DO NOT SEE MUSLIMS DENOUNCING RADICALISM!" *wears two eyepatches* "WHERE IS IT?" So why would we run after your demands to denounce this or that? It's not like you're going to stop erecting strawmen of whatever you want leftists to be.
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edit: nevermind, he's just trolling which ever way he can.
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Jan 11, 2015 16:59
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Narciss posted:This is some top-tier cringe. I have yet to see a criticism of Islam in this thread that is not dogwhistle racism for anti-Arab sentiment. Everyone takes it as a given that Islam, as an organized religion, is poo poo. It is doubly poo poo because it's oppressive, patriarchal and in many cases ultra-conservative. What is there to criticize?
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Narciss posted:This is some top-tier cringe. I have yet to see a criticism of Islam in this thread that is not dogwhistle racism for anti-Arab sentiment. A muslim walks into a bar and orders a beer. The bartender says "Isn't that Haram for you people". The muslim answers he's free to practice his religion as he pleases. Then a psychopath storms in and mows down everyone with dual wielding AKs. Such is life in modern liberal democracies.
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Narciss is either trolling now or was trolling before when he was talking about muslims cutting off clitorises and mass murdering people all the time earlier in the thread. Or its account sharing. Just check his posts in this thread.
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Cingulate posted:Islam is a religion. Religions are dumb. That's, uh, racist.
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Jan 11, 2015 17:00
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rudatron posted:Pretty sure narciss is being sarcastic, his post history in this thread are dumb pot-shots as islam. He, much like yourself, is a mouth-breathing retard who sees christians as diverse but muslims as monolithic.
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Jan 11, 2015 17:00
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McDowell posted:I'm hoping the percentage of Muslims in the population comes from other census means (number of mosques and number of members) I think it comes from foreign administrations/media.
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Jan 11, 2015 17:00
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Muslims I could't say. Few non-whites in general. Why is it illegal to inquire about that? How many people in France are British (white)?
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Jan 11, 2015 17:00
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Mandy Thompson posted:I'm really skeptical that the French really believe in unrestricted freedom of speech since they have a very different attitude if you criticize Israel or Judiasm you could be subject to criminal penalties. Everyone has limits. Criticizing Islam is low hanging fruit, its hardly an unpopular opinion.
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Jan 11, 2015 17:01
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lurker1981 posted:Why is it illegal to inquire about that? I could tell you about British if googled it but I couldn't tell you about white British. It's illegal because of historical reasons, the main one beign that the last time we had a census for ethnicities/religions, it was used to send trainloads of people down to the Nazi ovens.
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Jan 11, 2015 17:03
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:That's, uh, racist. No, it isn't.
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lurker1981 posted:Why is it illegal to inquire about that? You can't make racial statistics in France. France is officially "color-blind", there's no race recognized, all French citizens have the same status (except on some special status territories like French Polynesia). Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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A Pale Horse posted:Narciss is either trolling now or was trolling before when he was talking about muslims cutting off clitorises and mass murdering people all the time earlier in the thread. Or its account sharing. Just check his posts in this thread. It's common enough that the "leftists" conservatives hold up as examples of ridiculousness are actually conservatives pretending to be leftist caricatures. 
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Narciss posted:This is some top-tier cringe. I have yet to see a criticism of Islam in this thread that is not dogwhistle racism for anti-Arab sentiment. .يا سيد الأحم, كس أمك
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:I've Just came back from the demonstration in Avignon. There were more people in the demo than inhabitants in the city. I just got back from the protest in Quimper and I haven't seen this many people in town since the big regional language protest in 2012.
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Hob_Gadling posted:No, it isn't. It's on a racist frequency that you can't detect.
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Kurtofan posted:You can't make racial statistics in France. France doesn't recognize race. I guess that means there aren't any different races in France. That answers that question.
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TheImmigrant posted:.يا سيد الأحم, كس أمك *nods* Assalam Alaykum, brother. ----------------
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Mandy Thompson posted:I'm really skeptical that the French really believe in unrestricted freedom of speech since they have a very different attitude if you criticize Israel or Judiasm you could be subject to criminal penalties. Everyone has limits. Criticizing Islam is low hanging fruit, its hardly an unpopular opinion. There is nowhere with absolute freedom of speech. It's a term of art. France has relative freedom of expression. It is not absolute, and certainly not as wide-ranging as it is in the US (where it is also not absolute), but as a general principle it applies in France.
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lurker1981 posted:I guess that means there aren't any different races in France. French law does not recognize race, especially with regards to French citizenship. French society is another thing entirely.
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Jan 11, 2015 17:07
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First count tallies at 2 million demonstators
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lurker1981 posted:I guess that means there aren't any different races in France. In the American sense, there are many different races in France, but France doesn't recognize any of them.
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:It's on a racist frequency that you can't detect. Ah, I see. Or rather don't but I suppose that's the point.
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FWIW it is totally not illegal to criticize Israel or Judaism in France. What is illegal is to deny the holocaust.
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Disinterested posted:The Response of Slavoj Zizek to the CH massacre - apologies if it has been posted already, but I think there are some relevant quotations for us: This argument is idiotic whether it's from Zizek or some goon. You're not allowed to criticize Islam without someone being leery of Islamophobia. Ok: Let's test it out. I don't like Islam's clumsy doctrinaire monotheism or the onerousness of requirements it places on its followers.That didn't seem bigoted. Oh, you meant you're not allowed to say that Islam is a gutter religion followed by psychopaths, advocates murder and should be suppressed by state force without somebody saying you are some kind of "ignorant bigot." How strange
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:First count tallies at 2 million demonstators drat that's a lot of people.
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Kurtofan posted:In the American sense, there are many different races in France, but France doesn't recognize any of them. That response actually makes more sense. So I suppose there is only one allowed culture in France, the French culture? How does that work? I mean, you know on an intellectual level that there are many different races and cultures in France, but you choose not to acknowledge the reality of the situation because the government says it is illegal to do so? Also, did the French put the Jews on the trains to concentration camps before or after they were occupied by Germany? If it was before they were occupied, then I can totally understand why you guys feel the desire to censor that part of your history. Ddraig posted:FWIW it is totally not illegal to criticize Israel or Judaism in France. What is illegal is to deny the holocaust. Why would anyone deny the holocaust?
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Tezzor posted:This argument is idiotic whether it's from Zizek or some goon. You're not allowed to criticize Islam without someone being leery of Islamophobia. Ok: Let's test it out. I don't like Islam's clumsy doctrinaire monotheism or the onerousness of requirements it places on its followers.That didn't seem bigoted. Oh, you meant you're not allowed to say that Islam is a gutter religion followed by psychopaths, advocates murder and should be suppressed by state force without somebody saying you are some kind of "ignorant bigot." How strange So your entire point is a tone argument. If Muslims go off the reservation about tasteful criticism, the criticism is okay. On the other hand, if you find the criticism tasteless, you'll become very uncomfortable and see lots of racism, which is even worse than mass murder.
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lurker1981 posted:Why would anyone deny the holocaust? Because it was made up by the Jews to garner sympathy and play victim 
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lurker1981 posted:Why would anyone deny the holocaust? To quote neonazis: "the holocaust didn't happen but it should have happened."
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lurker1981 posted:Why would anyone deny the holocaust? Well if the holocaust went into my place of business and ordered a drink I would probably show it the door. Serious answer: You'd really, really truly be amazed (or probably wouldn't, depending on how cynical you are). Latest trends in Racist rhetoric usually doesn't go to great pains to deny the holocaust, but say that those wiley Jews added a couple of extra zeros to the official death count.
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