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Doctor Spaceman posted:Morrison's Batman Incorporated has a lot of British stuff in it (along with other international characters), including one minor character inspired by Margaret Thatcher Christ almighty, always knew Morrison was a bad 'un.
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I saw a bit of the Incredibles the other day and was reminded of the Superhero costume designer scene. I was wondering if any comics have ever gone in-depth in-universe about superheroes and their costumes? Is there someone out there making outfits for heroes and villains? Do heroes themselves ever discuss costume trends like the 90s-era Liefield look or how absolutely everyone used to wear spandex? Hoping I haven't missed that being covered in the thread already.
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Dolash posted:I saw a bit of the Incredibles the other day and was reminded of the Superhero costume designer scene. I was wondering if any comics have ever gone in-depth in-universe about superheroes and their costumes? Is there someone out there making outfits for heroes and villains? Do heroes themselves ever discuss costume trends like the 90s-era Liefield look or how absolutely everyone used to wear spandex? There was Leo Zelinsky, a tailor for superheroes and supervillains from JMS's run on Amazing Spider-Man. Leo has not been seen since he designed a costume for PENANCE, which probably sunk his reputation.
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Dolash posted:I saw a bit of the Incredibles the other day and was reminded of the Superhero costume designer scene. I was wondering if any comics have ever gone in-depth in-universe about superheroes and their costumes? Is there someone out there making outfits for heroes and villains? Do heroes themselves ever discuss costume trends like the 90s-era Liefield look or how absolutely everyone used to wear spandex? There is in fact a guy in Marvel New York who provides most of the superhero tailoring who was introduced in I think JMS' Spider-Man run (issue #502, to be precise). He sees heroes and villains on alternate days. Spidey's not a customer (that's actually why he seeks him out-he has info one of his customers is about to kill a DA and can't just tell one of his regular clients or he'd risk losing all his business). He actually designs Spidey's Last Stand costume, which cropped up earlier in the thread: VagueRant posted:Great OP! Edit: Aw dang, beaten. Didn't realise he made Penance's outfit. Isn't Spider-Woman's new costume meant to have a reversible jacket? Maye she got it from Leo.
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Dolash posted:I saw a bit of the Incredibles the other day and was reminded of the Superhero costume designer scene. I was wondering if any comics have ever gone in-depth in-universe about superheroes and their costumes? Is there someone out there making outfits for heroes and villains? Do heroes themselves ever discuss costume trends like the 90s-era Liefield look or how absolutely everyone used to wear spandex? Gladiator (the non-Shiar one) makes costumes for a lot of superheroes between going evil and crazy as well as fixing up costumes for heroes when they get messed up. With regards to the last part every now and again when a new writer comes along and costumes get redesigned there will be some off hand comments. Off the top of my head when Whedon took over Astonishing X-Men he moved the X-Men from leather jackets back to their costumes and there was a quip about how everybody wearing black leather was freaking people out.
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Dolash posted:I saw a bit of the Incredibles the other day and was reminded of the Superhero costume designer scene. I was wondering if any comics have ever gone in-depth in-universe about superheroes and their costumes? Is there someone out there making outfits for heroes and villains? Do heroes themselves ever discuss costume trends like the 90s-era Liefield look or how absolutely everyone used to wear spandex? One of the characters in Invincible is a tailor and designer, though he doesn't play a major role or anything.
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There was a Batman story about a tailor who ends up getting roped into doing costume work for Batman's rogues, although since they're dangerous psychos it's a terrifying situation for him instead of a side gig, and Batman ends up rescuing him from it and hiring him to work on his own suits.
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There was also a story in Morrison's Action Comics run that revealed where Superman got his S shirt.
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The Rogues also had a tailor on retainer for a while? It may have been before the Rogues were an official thing but he was the go to for a lot of Flash villains for a while.
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fatherboxx posted:There was Leo Zelinsky, a tailor for superheroes and supervillains from JMS's run on Amazing Spider-Man. Leo has not been seen since he designed a costume for PENANCE, which probably sunk his reputation.
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Penance was nu metal in super hero form.
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Mr. Maltose posted:The Rogues also had a tailor on retainer for a while? It may have been before the Rogues were an official thing but he was the go to for a lot of Flash villains for a while. Paul Gambi, tailor extraordinaire! There was even a minor reference to him on the Flash TV show, with some kind of "Gambi Tailor" or "Gambi Dry Cleaning" truck.
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Hakkesshu posted:One of the characters in Invincible is a tailor and designer, though he doesn't play a major role or anything. Didn't he briefly hook up with Invincible's mom? That doesn't seem that minor...
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Paul Gambi, tailor extraordinaire! There was even a minor reference to him on the Flash TV show, with some kind of "Gambi Tailor" or "Gambi Dry Cleaning" truck. He only made a few appearances in the pre-Crisis DCU. Here's part of his first one from Flash #141:   He ended up having a twin brother who designed Black Lightning's costume and then took a bullet for him in Black Lightning #1. Also, he was named in tribute to Paul Gambaccini, a big name fan who wrote a lot of letters to DC books during the Silver Age and ended up having a media career in the UK as a critic or something. There was a really good prose short story in a Batman paperback that I had years ago about a tailor who made costumes for everybody in Gotham City. The whole thing is just stuff like Batman and him arguing about the best way to make gloves and batlines, and it's the best story in the book.
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Servoret posted:Also, he was named in tribute to Paul Gambaccini, a big name fan who wrote a lot of letters to DC books during the Silver Age and ended up having a media career in the UK as a critic or something. Seriously? That's really weird. Paul Gambaccini hosted the official music chart programme in the UK during the 70s and 80s and he's been a DJ on classical music stations for the last 20 odd years.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Seriously? That's really weird. Paul Gambaccini hosted the official music chart programme in the UK during the 70s and 80s and he's been a DJ on classical music stations for the last 20 odd years. Yeah, it's the same guy. I see him pop up occasionally when I watch British documentaries and I'm always weirded out that this American I know of from old letter columns ended up as a media personality in the UK.
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Thunderstrike AKA 90s XTREME Thor. His son, Thunderstrike II, decided to carry on the terrible costume tradition.  The first Thunderstrike's costume was basically Thor with a silly vest instead of a cape, which wasn't so bad, but number 2's costume is a complete clusterfuck.
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Dolash posted:I saw a bit of the Incredibles the other day and was reminded of the Superhero costume designer scene. I was wondering if any comics have ever gone in-depth in-universe about superheroes and their costumes? Is there someone out there making outfits for heroes and villains? Do heroes themselves ever discuss costume trends like the 90s-era Liefield look or how absolutely everyone used to wear spandex? I think I remember the X-Men having a costume making machine in Beast's lab or something like that.
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There was an alien costume making machine in Secret Wars, which Charles Xavier showed off for like three pages.
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And Spidey still picked the wrong machine. The Shiar had an instant wardrobe machine that turned Kitty into Darth Vader in the Dark Phoenix saga.
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When the new X-Men first showed up, Xavier said their costumes were made by Reed Richards of unstable molecules. There's definitely a tailor in NYC that caters to supertypes who shows up in the most street-level books. The X-Men have a Shiar machine in their basement that can just do whatever.
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Die Laughing posted:And Spidey still picked the wrong machine. I remember the '90s X-Force team got new costumes with that Shi'Ar device after Liefeld left the book, perhaps when Capullo took over the art, in the X-Cutioner's Song era.
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I think Kitty got her first Sprite costume from the garbage can at Goodwill.
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Endless Mike posted:The X-Men have a Shiar machine in their basement that can just do whatever. A Maguffin? Those things are great!
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New Mutants (I think) immediately after the death of Doug and the 'deaths' of the X-Men had the kids coping by finding a bunch of discarded and unused costume remnants during the Blevins era. Looking back at them now I think the only one that maybe sort of looked maybe sort of okayish was Illyana if only by virtue of looking a bit like Colossus' red-vest costume.
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Worst superhero costume ever was when Kitty Pryde made an outfit out of various things in the X-Men's attic.
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That costume is magnificent in only the way that a 14-year-old going through an attic for something to wear with roller skates can be, you philistine 
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Give the kid a break. It was her fifth costume and second codename that day.
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Kitty has always had a costume problem.  This is one of the absolute worst costumes in comics today. I hate it. It looks so dumb.
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Hakkesshu posted:Kitty has always had a costume problem. The only problem with that costume is that it's aggressively generic x-mans.
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That looks like it's just a color swap on Nightcrawlers classic costume. Which I think was a holdover from being in the circus? Honestly it was a pretty good costume on him.
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I love any costume that takes after the retro X-Men. Dark blue and yellow for everybody!
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Hakkesshu posted:Kitty has always had a costume problem. Is her belt kinda phasing out of her on her right side? Or is it just made to look like it is? Also, when did the Tarnished-Silver Surfer join the X-Men?
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That's Teen Bobby from the Past.
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Hulk Smash! posted:Is her belt kinda phasing out of her on her right side? Or is it just made to look like it is? I believe those are the past original team so that would be Bobby. Personally, I've always found the team X-Men costume kind of bland. Like it makes sense for the younger guys but once you graduate to full X-Men you should get a personalized one.
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muscles like this? posted:I believe those are the past original team so that would be Bobby. Personally, I've always found the team X-Men costume kind of bland. Like it makes sense for the younger guys but once you graduate to full X-Men you should get a personalized one. Like aces in WW1 before everyone figured out "SHOOT THE COLORFUL GUY! THAT MOTHERFUCKER RIGHT THERE, SHOOT HIM!"
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Hakkesshu posted:Kitty has always had a costume problem. I was all ready to say "Hey, the one Alan Davis drew her in in Excalibur was pretty boss" and then I went back and actually looked at it, only to realize that my memory deceived me and it was in fact terrible. Ye Gods, that loving collar.
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muscles like this? posted:I believe those are the past original team so that would be Bobby. Personally, I've always found the team X-Men costume kind of bland. Like it makes sense for the younger guys but once you graduate to full X-Men you should get a personalized one. Your X-men uniform would literally be a school uniform. I dig it.
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McSpanky posted:That costume is magnificent in only the way that a 14-year-old going through an attic for something to wear with roller skates can be, you philistine Even Molly managed to make a costume that was less stupid than that: 
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