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Powershift posted:200hp, fwd, solid rear axle, 3800+lbs, and likely 40 grand. should sell like hotcakes. Also, unrelentingly gently caress-ugly.
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PCOS Bill posted:Overweight, 200hp, FWD, $40k... It's the Saab 9-3SE Convertible back to life! it looks like an Eclipse and a Murano droptop hosed in the Chernobyl exclusion zone
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ilkhan posted:Probably too big for the Focus. The 2.7EB would be a ton of fun in the Mustang. It has less room to grow, however, as I think stock its like 27psi. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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 http://www.caradvice.com.au/329225/buick-avenir-holden-designed-caprice-sized-sedan-debuts/ A big new Buick, from the people who recently decided to stop making big new anything 
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Wow, surprised at how good that looks from the front. Not a massive fan of the rear, but if the actual car looks anything like the concept that's definitely different for Buick, that's for sure. Side profile looks great from the rear wheels forward.
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sadnessboner posted:
I wonder if the Holden design team can even draw a vehicle smaller than a commodore.
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Git Mah Belt Son posted:Not a massive fan of the rear Rear appears to be inspired by the Riviera boat tail.
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new  conference schedule http://naias.com/media/81924/15-pressconference_1-10.pdf livestream here. http://www.tflcar.com/2015/01/coming-soon-tflcar-live-stream-from-naias-2015/ the chevy conference is up now. summary so far: volt 51 miles electric 41mpg 30% faster 0-30mph 200lbs lighter than old volt looks like a chrysler 200 2016 chevy bolt. looks like a honda fit hosed a BMW i3  gross 2016 titan: 12000lb towing v8 cummins 5 liter, 310hp 555ft/lbs 20% better fuel economy than V8 trucks in class.(seriously steppin carefully around the ecoboost here) 
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New raptor. next gen 3.5 ecoboost, more powerful than the current v8, 10 speed automatic, gently caress yeah the current raptor was 411hp, 434ft/lbs  new GT350R, 130lbs lighter than the GT 350. no a/c, no back seat, carbon fibre wheels  New ford GT 600+hp 3.5 liter excboost, carbon fibre, 7 speed dual clutch They're actually building it, too. Powershift fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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Powershift posted:New raptor. next gen 3.5 ecoboost, more powerful than the current v8, 10 speed automatic, gently caress yeah *WOW* that 3.5EB in the GT350R is unexpected. also, this.  Don't see engine specs, but looking at the raptor and GT350R, probably that 3.5EB. I was expecting blown 5.2L on the R and the GT. GT350R gallery: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/ford-shelby-gt350r-mustang/ GT gallery: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/ford-gt-2/ ilkhan fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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Jan 12, 2015 15:41
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 Oh my god I have never seen such a beautiful car as long as I have lived. Seriously though, holy gently caress. 600 hp worth of holy gently caress. edit: dammit, beaten.
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ilkhan posted:Holy poo poo. i worded it weird, the 350R is still the 5.2 fat plane. the ford GT is the 3.5 EB V6 supercar, something tells me this is going to be incredibly divisive. 
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Powershift posted:i worded it weird, the 350R is still the 5.2 fat plane. So 3.5EB in the GT 3.5EB in the raptor 5.2L in the 350R.
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 Well, I am OK with this I guess. But I don't like the use of the 3.5l V6 though, is it a marketing gimmick to sell more trucks? A car like that deserves a supercharged flatplane 5.2, not a Taurus engine imo.
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Throatwarbler posted:
 look at their competition though. Mclaren 650S: 3.8L twin turbo V8, 7 speed dual clutch, 641hp. 500ft/lbs new GT: 3.5L twin turbo V6, 7 speed dual clutch, 600+hp, gobs of ft/lbs
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Don't like the middle of the car on the GT. At all.
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I read a thing a while back about a guy importing a 650S to China, and believe it or not one reason he chose it over the 458 is that Chinese taxes go up substantially when the engine displacement goes over 4 liters, and then it's turned into a multiple of the MSRP, so the Mclaren ended up being like $100k+ cheaper than the Ferrari when it was all done. The Mclaren is also a flat plane V8 though, to match that output with substantially less displacement and cylinder count would be a challenge. Anyway I stopped caring when I read it was going to be slushbox only. 
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It looks like a fat chick sat on a GT-R
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gently caress you guys, that thing looks incredible. I bet they have a high-end version with the 5.2 flat plane. They could call it the GT-R... er, the GT-S... er, the... well poo poo.
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Throatwarbler posted:I read a thing a while back about a guy importing a 650S to China, and believe it or not one reason he chose it over the 458 is that Chinese taxes go up substantially when the engine displacement goes over 4 liters, and then it's turned into a multiple of the MSRP, so the Mclaren ended up being like $100k+ cheaper than the Ferrari when it was all done. They obviously met that challenge, as they're saying 600hp+ I wonder how much will differ mechanically from the 3.5 in the raptor. A 600hp 10 speed, sub-5000lb raptor would be pretty awesome. 
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Look at these pictures, guys! That steering wheel looks hilarious.
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Front looks awesome but the back just makes me think "ribbit, ribbit" e: you edited your post
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CornHolio posted:Look at these pictures, guys! Just when I thought Jalop couldn't get any worse, they use the phrase "poo poo their dicks" in a headline.
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angryhampster posted:Just when I thought Jalop couldn't get any worse, they use the phrase "poo poo their dicks" in a headline. It could be worse. "You won't BELIEVE what happened when Ford unveiled THIS!"
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at least they're talking about something other than iphones and plane crashes.
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Throatwarbler posted:I read a thing a while back about a guy importing a 650S to China, and believe it or not one reason he chose it over the 458 is that Chinese taxes go up substantially when the engine displacement goes over 4 liters, and then it's turned into a multiple of the MSRP, so the Mclaren ended up being like $100k+ cheaper than the Ferrari when it was all done. It's also the reason why China is getting the Subaru Outback with the 2.0L H4 DIT as the top engine trim model instead of the 3.6L H6 that's used elsewhere. It is only available with a CVT so it's only about as interesting as the Forrester XT.
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I kinda love it, kinda hate it. That's indifference, right?
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drat, I want more details on the 2nd gen 3.5L EB.. they had to increase the size of the turbos on it to get to those power levels. A new 3.5L EB also means a Fusion ST/SHO with the 2.7L EB makes sense now. It would have cannibalized the Taurus SHO in its current form, but a ST lineup like this would be loving balls to the wall awesome Fiesta ST Focus ST Fusion ST (2.7L EB ~330HP) (I wish) Taurus SHO/ST (Gen 2 3.5L EB ~425HP) (I wish) Then you have the Edge Sport and Explorer Sport. Ford is making some awesome loving cars right now. angryhampster posted:Just when I thought Jalop couldn't get any worse, they use the phrase "poo poo their dicks" in a headline. I like their site for the most part, and even find DeMuro entertaining, but this is some highschool level childish garbage right here. Automotive "journalism" is almost as bad as sports "journalism" so should we even be surprised at this point? skipdogg fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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I like how both Chevy and Ford show up to the same auto show and have exciting never-before-seen game changing announcements. And this is how they go down. CHEBY: "Hey guys we're Chevy and we've been working really hard on our revolutionary new Chevy Bolt! It's our halo car. Also there's a Buick convertible. We think millennials will really dig it!"  FORD: (burps) 600 horsepower  (belches) another 600 horsepower  (farts) yeah you guessed it, 600 horsepower  Dodge better go hard.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:
It's MOPAR..when have they not gone a little apeshit at big reveal events?
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chrysler doesn't seem to be doing any product reveals. Only ram, which is gonna be this thing. Chevy must have missed the memo on $2 a gallon gas forever
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angryhampster posted:It's MOPAR..when have they not gone a little apeshit at big reveal events? Announcing the Dodge Challenger Hell-lion, with one million horsepower.
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Powershift posted:chrysler doesn't seem to be doing any product reveals. Only ram, which is gonna be this thing. Cram the Dart turbo motor under the hood, and I'll take it.
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those fenders are silly but I'm in favor of any utes we get in the states
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Powershift posted:chrysler doesn't seem to be doing any product reveals. Only ram, which is gonna be this thing. RAM Baja?
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Spooge. Spooge all over this. I'm a Corvette fan and I want to see this thing win Le Mans. Throatwarbler posted:But I don't like the use of the 3.5l V6 though, is it a marketing gimmick to sell more trucks? A car like that deserves a supercharged flatplane 5.2, not a Taurus engine imo. I wonder if it does have to do with Le Mans, since you can't have a n/a engine over 5.5 or a boosted engine over 4.0 and it has to be available in the production model. Or maybe Ford for maximum profitability wants to merge to a business model where every car sold just has a turbo V6? I'm okay with that. davebo fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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Ford also talked up their partnership with the DOE and DOW for high production, low cost carbon fibre, so with a mass production engine, and cheap carbon fibre, there's a chance it could be under 100 grand. A very, very small chance, but still.
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Powershift posted:New raptor. next gen 3.5 ecoboost, more powerful than the current v8, 10 speed automatic, gently caress yeah gently caress that stang looks good
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And a new ford GT I just came
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Powershift posted:Ford also talked up their partnership with the DOE and DOW for high production, low cost carbon fibre, so with a mass production engine, and cheap carbon fibre, there's a chance it could be under 100 grand. A very, very small chance, but still. Mid engine v6 powered supercar for relatively cheap? Sounds like Ford is doing the NSX better than Honda it's doing the actual new one. Also hot drat that's an awesome line-up from Ford. You guys remember 10-15 years ago when 500 hp was still a rare and expensive club? 
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