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Spooky Hyena posted:It was always a myth so no. Unless the met police are on your side, obviously. So the Scotsman has to be black, then? E: January 1930 - the Indian National Congress publishes its declaration of independence from the British Empire. Jedit fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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baka kaba posted:It's like Guavanaut says, it's the nuclear option - they just want to threaten people with the abolition of the institution of marriage, just to please them. It's meant to incite a backlash Aaah. I always saw it as kind of the other way round - threatening the church with 'if you're not going to share then you can't marry anyone'.
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The median graduate starting salary paid by top employers is now £30k, apparently, and there will be more graduate positions available than there have been in any other year during this decade. Maybe Gideon will get his growth-fuelled tax revenues after all. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/11339164/Graduates-could-earn-typical-starting-salary-of-30000.html quote:Students who gain their university degree this year could start work on a typical salary of £30,000, according to new research.
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LemonDrizzle posted:The median graduate starting salary paid by top employers is now £30k, apparently, and there will be more graduate positions available than there have been in any other year during this decade. Maybe Gideon will get his growth-fuelled tax revenues after all. I'm not noticing the employers tripping over themselves to hire me on 30k
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Jan 12, 2015 17:27
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm not noticing the employers tripping over themselves to hire me on 30k Are you a top graduate?
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LemonDrizzle posted:The median graduate starting salary paid by top employers is now £30k, apparently, and there will be more graduate positions available than there have been in any other year during this decade. Maybe Gideon will get his growth-fuelled tax revenues after all. Load of utter rubbish - most employers will only offer a starting salary of £18k to graduates, despite the cost of living increasing by the day. It's only major companies or banks that offer £30k - and you're expected to jump through loving hoops to get it. They generally also only offer a handful of places.
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Jan 12, 2015 17:31
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II was reading an article on the BBC about security or some poo poo but I couldn't really concentrate due to their use of a picture of David Cameron's face in front of a sign saying "a Britain living within its means" because that's possibly the least inspiring image/slogan on the planet.
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gently caress everything: US owners of Cadbury 'secretly change' Creme Egg recipe quote:The American food giant that owns Cadbury's is facing strong criticism for "secretly" rolling out a new "cheap-tasting" Creme Egg. Is nothing sacred in the face of capitalism? The only answer is Full Communism now, let this be the signal of our revolution!
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tentish klown posted:Are you a top graduate? My undergrad is a bit flimsy (middle of the road 2.1) but it's from a pretty prestigious institution. But I also have a pretty strong masters, so on balance yeah I'm probably ahead of the mean. e: fat lot of good it's doing me TinTower posted:Also, I've only ever seen the whole "abolish marriage and give everyone civil unions" argument used by homophobes, so it's not an endearing argument at all. How exactly is trying to standardise all formal relationships regardless of gender and sexuality, so that everyone can be guaranteed equal protection and legitimacy under the law, homophobic in any way? No one is saying 'gay people shouldn't marry', they're saying 'no one should marry because as an institution it's (at best) a quasi-religious arrangement that reinforces backward ideas about gender roles and obligations (and therefore, implicitly, inherent differences) while retaining legitimacy under the law'. Keep marriage for those who want it, but remove its legal relevance. Make sure it's the kind of thing people only do if they're committed religious types. Gradually it will be phased out naturally because the population just keeps getting more athiest.
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm not noticing the employers tripping over themselves to hire me on 30k Nor am I, noticeably, although I was jobhunting in a slightly shittier job market 6-9 months ago.
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WMain00 posted:Load of utter rubbish - most employers will only offer a starting salary of £18k to graduates, despite the cost of living increasing by the day. It's only major companies or banks that offer £30k - and you're expected to jump through loving hoops to get it. They generally also only offer a handful of places. In 2012 I got a graduate job with a large corp, it paid £24k and that was supposedly pretty good money for non-financial sector. I think the yearly intake for that was about 20 people. £30k average is probably complete horseshit.
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Jan 12, 2015 17:43
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Pasco posted:gently caress everything: What kind of person sees the words "cadburys creme egg" and doesn't expect the chocolate part to be cadburys? Never should have sold them to the yanks.
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Also, if it's American chocolate, it will literally taste like vomit.
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Prince John posted:Are you still allowed to kill a Scotsman armed with a bow and arrow, except on Sundays, or whatever that wacky law was? That's for English people based in Chester, from certain turrets, after midnight, against Welsh people. WMain00 posted:Load of utter rubbish - most employers will only offer a starting salary of £18k to graduates, despite the cost of living increasing by the day. It's only major companies or banks that offer £30k - and you're expected to jump through loving hoops to get it. They generally also only offer a handful of places. If one of the most partisan papers in the country says it, then it has to be true!
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Seaside Loafer has been visiting London: Disgusting moment a man went for a 'number two' at a bus stop - next to a bathroom shop CCTV footage from a bathroom shop in Blackheath, London, which sells toilets and bathroom fittings, captured the moment a man went for a "number 2" in the shelter. The black and white clip shows the man pull down his trousers, sit down in the bus shelter and do his business before cleaning himself and throwing the waste on the floor. After doing his business, the unnamed man then waited for the bus before boarding – without making any effort to clean his mess. http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Disgusting-moment-man-went-8216-number-8217-bus/story-25842265-detail/story.html
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WMain00 posted:Load of utter rubbish - most employers will only offer a starting salary of £18k to graduates, despite the cost of living increasing by the day. It's only major companies or banks that offer £30k - and you're expected to jump through loving hoops to get it. They generally also only offer a handful of places.
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Jan 12, 2015 18:22
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Darth Walrus posted:Also, if it's American chocolate, it will literally taste like vomit. American chocolate does indeed taste loving vile. I don't know what the hell they do with it, since it's sort of the birthplace of chocolate, but it's disgusting. Tastes incredibly cheap and has a weird texture and aftertaste and it's sort of making me feel ill just thinking about it. We may not do much right but we do know how to make chocolate.
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Dairy milk is still not particularly high quality chocolate as it is full of vegetable oil.
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Gilganixon posted:In 2012 I got a graduate job with a large corp, it paid £24k and that was supposedly pretty good money for non-financial sector. I think the yearly intake for that was about 20 people. £30k average is probably complete horseshit. Or it's an average that's hugely inflated by a relatively small number of people making megabucks. A grad job at Deutschebank is like 39-50k basic + potentially close to 100% annual salary bonus in year 1.
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Jan 12, 2015 18:25
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JFairfax posted:Seaside Loafer has been visiting London:
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Disinterested posted:Or it's an average that's hugely inflated by a relatively small number of people making megabucks. A grad job at Deutschebank is like 39-50k basic + potentially close to 100% annual salary bonus in year 1. Well it's the median, so no. It's probably only counting jobs for graduate schemes (i.e. big companies), which a lot - if not most - graduates don't actually get. It would be interesting to see how many job placements this is actually based on compared to the number of graduates in a year.
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Ddraig posted:American chocolate does indeed taste loving vile. I don't know what the hell they do with it, since it's sort of the birthplace of chocolate, but it's disgusting. Tastes incredibly cheap and has a weird texture and aftertaste and it's sort of making me feel ill just thinking about it. one of the bigger chocolate companies over there lobbied for 'relaxed' standards of freshness for the milk they used, to cut costs. They won, and because their brand was huge (might be hershies or however you spell it) their particular flavour became the default association usa peeps made with the taste of chocolate - literally sour milk. All the other brands copied them, naturally.
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Yeah Hershey's is vile, but some of their stuff is alright, Three Musketeers and their Milky Way (which is like our Mars Bar) are decent. But yeah in general I would much rather have Britbong chocolates. Fortunately there's a really great old-school candy shop in Bozeman (because Bozeman is the best place) but I hope I can get some sent over by my mum or something, once I marry and move out there.
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Ddraig posted:We may not do much right but we do know how to make chocolate. Depends what you're used to. Go to a supermarket in France or Switzerland and buy the cheapest own brand chocolate you can find, it'll be miles ahead of the equivalent from the UK.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Well it's the median, so no.
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Wolfsbane posted:Depends what you're used to. Go to a supermarket in France or Switzerland and buy the cheapest own brand chocolate you can find, it'll be miles ahead of the equivalent from the UK. Lindt is quite nice but dairy milk is also nice. American chocolate barely tastes like chocolate.
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JFairfax posted:loving hell they are actually having someone eat a creme egg on PM on radio 4... I really hope what's happening there is everyone is silent, while someone bites into and sloppily chews a creme egg for a good minute or so, right up to the microphone
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Don't they have put a fuckload of starch or something in it to stop it melting on the shelves? Dairy milk especially, with its aforementioned oil content, wouldn't last five minutes in a California summer.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Don't they have put a fuckload of starch or something in it to stop it melting on the shelves? Not my fault Americans live on some lovely continent without perfect positioning on a global weather system which affords a startlingly temperate climate with a high tendency towards precipitation. They still make lovely chocolate.
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KKKlean Energy posted:I really hope what's happening there is everyone is silent, while someone bites into and sloppily chews a creme egg for a good minute or so, right up to the microphone more or less
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ThomasPaine posted:How exactly is trying to standardise all formal relationships regardless of gender and sexuality, so that everyone can be guaranteed equal protection and legitimacy under the law, homophobic in any way? No one is saying 'gay people shouldn't marry', they're saying 'no one should marry because as an institution it's (at best) a quasi-religious arrangement that reinforces backward ideas about gender roles and obligations (and therefore, implicitly, inherent differences) while retaining legitimacy under the law'. Keep marriage for those who want it, but remove its legal relevance. Make sure it's the kind of thing people only do if they're committed religious types. Gradually it will be phased out naturally because the population just keeps getting more athiest. You may be overestimating homophobes. They just don't want those dirty fags to marry.
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Chocolate Teapot posted:That's for English people based in Chester, from certain turrets, after midnight, against Welsh people. There's also a law that lets you shoot reivers under certain conditions in one of the border towns, I believe. Might be Berwick. I also know a freeman of the city of Glasgow who's allowed to carry a sword, on the condition that she comes to the defense of the city if it's attacked. Tory voters count as reivers and threats to the city, right?
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Taratang posted:I can't find the number of placements but there are more than half a million new graduates every year (source, scroll down to qualifications obtained). Unless those 100 companies are employing 5,000 new graduates each, their median salaries are meaningless to the broader picture. I wondered what counts as a 'top 100 employer' so I found the report: quote:The Times Top 100 Graduate Employers So it's basically the most desirable employers in the eyes of students, which may possibly be linked to the amount they pay! e- a bunch of interesting charts in there, here's a few  A few % of graduates  Public sectorrrr  
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Ddraig posted:American chocolate does indeed taste loving vile. I don't know what the hell they do with it, since it's sort of the birthplace of chocolate, but it's disgusting. Tastes incredibly cheap and has a weird texture and aftertaste and it's sort of making me feel ill just thinking about it. Read the Wikped article I linked. It explains it.
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Gilganixon posted:In 2012 I got a graduate job with a large corp, it paid £24k and that was supposedly pretty good money for non-financial sector. I think the yearly intake for that was about 20 people. £30k average is probably complete horseshit. You should bear in mind that the Telegraph routinely describes people living in £2m houses as "ordinary middle class people"... I suspect their perceptions may be just a little skewed.
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Cameron is looking at Miliband and saying "you silly bugger, this is how you throw an election":WhatsApp and iMessage could be banned under new surveillance plans posted:David Cameron could block WhatsApp and Snapchat if he wins the next election, as part of his plans for new surveillance powers announced in the wake of the shootings in Paris. I think goddamntwisto said in a previous MT that he wouldn't expect Cameron to do something like this. He's too optimistic, imo. e: found the post: goddamnedtwisto posted:A ban on strong encryption would make almost every computer and phone sold this century illegal, and outside of a few fevered EFF types and the occasional "New technology baffles pissed old hack" type, nobody's proposing such a thing. TinTower fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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Jedit posted:As were the English. In fact, if you look at the history of the language it's more accurate to say that the people of Britain have stolen all kinds of words from the people who came to abuse them, not the other way round. Which should come as no surprise to anyone - when you conquer a people you do it to impose your culture and language on them, not the other way round. I must have missed the bit where the Mughal Empire invaded and subjugated us and made us use words like 'nabob' and 'bungalow' .
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TinTower posted:Cameron is looking at Miliband and saying "you silly bugger, this is how you throw an election": quote:He said: “In our country, do we want to allow a means of communication between people which […] we cannot read?” I think you mean "which I cannot read." Those of us having the conversation can read it just fine. You can't read it because it's not for you. I mean really if you weren't a senior Tory official I might just think you were a massive perv or somethOHWAIT. feedmegin posted:I must have missed the bit where the Mughal Empire invaded and subjugated us and made us use words like 'nabob' and 'bungalow' . Nabob is a word? OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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TinTower posted:You may be overestimating homophobes. They just don't want those dirty fags to marry. Poisoning the well a bit to throw the whole thing out just based on this, surely?
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