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No Safe Word posted:Why is everyone surprised that nobody from their 2005 draft is still on their roster or even in the league? I'd be far more surprised if any remained on a roster with a very small handful of exceptions. I imagine like 90% of the people in the 2005 draft aren't in the NFL at all anyway. That's why I think the Eagles' was especially good. One of our starting linemen and one of our starting linebackers are from that draft. Plus a guy who used to start at NT for us.
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JT Jag posted:The Jaguars don't have a single member of their 2005 draft class still on their roster. The Titans have Michael Roos, and that's it. But hey, we drafted Pacman Jones, so it wasn't a complete waste for the league, even if it was for them.
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JT Jag posted:The Jaguars don't have a single member of their 2005 draft class still on their roster. What the gently caress...I thought the Falcons had problems with drafting... No Safe Word posted:Why is everyone surprised that nobody from their 2005 draft is still on their roster or even in the league? I'd be far more surprised if any remained on a roster with a very small handful of exceptions. I imagine like 90% of the people in the 2005 draft aren't in the NFL at all anyway. Falcons have two remaining 
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Chilichimp posted:What the gently caress...I thought the Falcons had problems with drafting... In 2008, he was replaced by Gene Smith, who was an irredeemable black hole of horrible GMing. He is responsible for drafting Derrick Harvey and Quinton Groves in 2008. Harvey is out of the league, Groves is a journeyman. He drafted Eugene Monroe and Eben Britton in 2009. Probably his best draft, Monroe was a good left tackle for years and was traded last season and Britton's career was derailed by injuries. In 2010 he traded his second round pick to move up to get Tyson Alualu. He hasn't been worth his selection, but he is still on the team. In 2011, he moved up to acquire Blaine Gabbert. The less said about that, the better. In 2012, he picked up Justin Blackmon and Andre Branch. Seemed promising, but Blackmon is still a shithead and Branch hasn't developed into a good pass rusher. Finally he got shitcanned. Thank god. Dave Caldwell's last two drafts have nearly been better than the ten years of drafting before it put together.
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The Bengals playoff futility facts with Marvin Lewis!
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Jan 13, 2015 00:20
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Eifert Posting posted:The Bengals playoff futility facts with Marvin Lewis! Making the playoffs is the best you can ask for. One of these years things will click in the postseason and the Bengals will start clowning fools 28-3 and be an unstoppable juggernaut. Trust me.
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axeil posted:Making the playoffs is the best you can ask for. One of these years things will click in the postseason and the Bengals will start clowning fools 28-3 and be an unstoppable juggernaut. Trust me.
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JT Jag posted:When you're being reassured about your team's postseason fortunes by an Eagles fan you know things aren't going good for you. I think all the teams that haven't won Super Bowls will win one someday, even the Jags  It just might be after we're all dead
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Eifert Posting posted:The Bengals playoff futility facts with Marvin Lewis! be happy your team is actually in the playoffs
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axeil posted:I think all the teams that haven't won Super Bowls will win one someday, even the Jags The MJD halcyon days weren't all that long ago, maybe a decade. I could see the Jags doing well by the start of next decade. Probably sooner than I can the Titans, since I feel like no one really gives a poo poo with Tennessee's ownership.
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Probably Magic posted:The MJD halcyon days weren't all that long ago, maybe a decade. I could see the Jags doing well by the start of next decade. Probably sooner than I can the Titans, since I feel like no one really gives a poo poo with Tennessee's ownership. The Titans were a first-round bye team back in 2008, really the only teams that haven't had anything good to look back on are the Bills (last playoff appearance: 1999) and the Browns 2.0 (last playoffs appearance: 2002). There are kids that can drive who have never seen the Bills in the playoffs in their lifetime. That's absurd. Also a fun fact for Jags fans: The Jags have the lowest point total in a blown lead out of any NFL team. They blew a 17 point lead to the Ravens in 2000. Since then they have won every game where they've lead by at least 18. Every other NFL team has blown leads of larger margins. It's not much, but it's something. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/blown_leads.htm axeil fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Metapod posted:be happy your team is actually in the playoffs Define "in."
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Eifert Posting posted:Define "in." they were a participant
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All I'm saying is that at some point the competition committee will realize it's unfair that 3 AFC teams get byes every year.
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JT Jag posted:Shack Harris was a bad GM. He had a knack for second round picks, though. Rashean Mathis, Daryl Smith and MJD were some of the best players in franchise history, and Khalif Barnes and Justin Durant were both contributors for a time. His first round picks were just as bad as his second round picks were good, though, drafting the likes of Byron Leftwich, Reggie Williams, Matt Jones, Marcedes Lewis and Reggie Nelson. Those first three aren't in the league anymore, Lewis is the only remaining Shack Harris pick on the team and the exception to the rule, and Reggie Nelson was horrible until he became a Bengal and started being good. Every now and then I suddenly remember that they drafted Matt loving Jones in the first round. And I die a little inside.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Quarterback and cornerback are two of the three positions that traditionally have the greatest adjustment period from college to the NFL, I think you need to give them a little more time before you completely write them off. people called jimmy smith a bust his first few years in baltimore even though he had some rough luck with injuries and all of his problems were extremely coachable, he tackles well and had everything there to be a physical corner but was getting beat by vet WRs doing double moves on him fast forward to this season when ravens fans start hitting the panic button when jimmy went down, even before he went to IR
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xeria posted:Every now and then I suddenly remember that they drafted Matt loving Jones in the first round. And I die a little inside. ugh
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JT Jag posted:My dad was so fuckin' excited about that pick, he thought it was can't miss, I mean, look at his combine stats and his size and how can't he be great right Drafting a white WR in the 1st round is a crime against sports. If Jordy Nelson got drafted in the 1st the universe would've made him a bust, and rightfully so.
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JT Jag posted:My dad was so fuckin' excited about that pick, he thought it was can't miss, I mean, look at his combine stats and his size and how can't he be great right Is your dad Jerry Jones
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No Safe Word posted:Is your dad Jerry Jones
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commy gun posted:Drafting a white WR in the 1st round is a crime against sports. If Jordy Nelson got drafted in the 1st the universe would've made him a bust, and rightfully so. Honestly, if Brian Walters weren't white I probably wouldn't care that he was our punt returner, but he is, so I do.
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If Jimmy/Torrey end up not forcing Baltimore to overpay the front 7 makes it to where the team only needs a mediocre secondary to have a really good defense. If they can lock up Osemele when his contract is up in 2016 it'll open up a window for Baltimore to be a serious contender for a few season. It was really bad this year but that was to a lot of bad luck and I think it won't take very long to address the issue. If the work gets done on defense Ozzie might finally accidentally look at WR prospects early in the draft. That would be cool and worth the risk to pull the trigger on one. The impact it would have with the personnel and a real OC right now would be huge.
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Pron on VHS posted:Running around after an inflated ball is serious mans business, only thing that compares is being troops jj watt is insanely good and it's amazing watching him play and any team would love to have him on their roster because we won't see a player like him for another generation, at least. but if he were in the military he'd get tillman'd in a loving hurry because holy poo poo is nothing worse than being stuck in closed quarters with some hyper-square rear end in a top hat with no sense of humor for extended periods of time. being as serious as he is about football even when just talking casually about it is lol as gently caress because even actual combat veterans don't talk about their service as seriously as he treats pigskin and it'd get old really loving quick
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Yeah he'd totally get murdered for being annoying hooorah support the troops
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wheez the roux posted:jj watt is insanely good and it's amazing watching him play and any team would love to have him on their roster because we won't see a player like him for another generation, at least. but if he were in the military he'd get tillman'd in a loving hurry because holy poo poo is nothing worse than being stuck in closed quarters with some hyper-square rear end in a top hat with no sense of humor for extended periods of time. being as serious as he is about football even when just talking casually about it is lol as gently caress because even actual combat veterans don't talk about their service as seriously as he treats pigskin and it'd get old really loving quick This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read in TFF, even for a Seahawks poster Also: do you really think the military is short of guys who take the whole thing super seriously? e3 (annihilates e2!): Oof I'm pretty annoyed by this not just because he's on my favorite team but ugh I should just take a step back. Still think it's v dumb Intruder fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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every post is I make is extremely 100% serious. yes the military has plenty of people who take it super seriously. those people are generally considered super laughable, annoying, or generally mocked by the vast majority who aren't like that. being hyper-serious 100% of the time is very rarely endearing to anyone and watt's teammate probably only put up with it because he's so insanely good. if he were even just well above average the tolerance for it would plummet and there's a difference between "being serious about football" and going out of your way to criticize twitter or anything else other players do on their downtime because it "doesn't have sacks." that's self-parody territory
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I'm just saying, if JJ Watt were in my unit we'd give him a blanket party real quick 
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JJ Watt is super serious about football arguably to a fault, but what you can't argue is the results Being the way he is might not be necessary for everyone but obviously it works for him It's not like I'm saying everyone has to be super serious all the time e: This whole thing is making me chuckle a bit because the most super serious military dude I know washed out of marine boot camp
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Intruder posted:JJ Watt is super serious about football arguably to a fault, but what you can't argue is the results I did not WASH OUT, I was asked to leave, and I followed the order like a good soldier. I NEVER QUIT.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Quarterback and cornerback are two of the three positions that traditionally have the greatest adjustment period from college to the NFL, I think you need to give them a little more time before you completely write them off. I agree, the conversation started because Chilichimp said that 32 teams would argue they had the best draft of 2014, I was saying the Browns would get laughed out of the room. So just evaluating our draft against others', I mean, you can't say Manziel has been better than Bridgewater or Carr and you can't say Gilbert has been better than Fuller or Benwikere or um even the other two rookie CBs the Browns had, so for right now, the Browns couldn't argue they had the best draft of 2014
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e: Eh dumb derail JJ is really good though Intruder fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Alouicious posted:I did not WASH OUT, I was asked to leave, and I followed the order like a good soldier. Well, none of this true.
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Chilichimp posted:Well, none of this true. it's a reference
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wheez the roux posted:jj watt is insanely good and it's amazing watching him play and any team would love to have him on their roster because we won't see a player like him for another generation, at least. but if he were in the military he'd get tillman'd in a loving hurry because holy poo poo is nothing worse than being stuck in closed quarters with some hyper-square rear end in a top hat with no sense of humor for extended periods of time. being as serious as he is about football even when just talking casually about it is lol as gently caress because even actual combat veterans don't talk about their service as seriously as he treats pigskin and it'd get old really loving quick I see soldiers do the typical ornery poo poo about how stupid selfies are and stuff are all the time. Now, if JJ Watt ever said, "Yeah, well, maybe Rodgers is playing too much Call of Duty instead of keeping his nose in the playbook," then... then he'd get Tillman'd.
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Probably Magic posted:I see soldiers do the typical ornery poo poo about how stupid selfies are and stuff are all the time. Now, if JJ Watt ever said, "Yeah, well, maybe Rodgers is playing too much Call of Duty instead of keeping his nose in the playbook," then... then he'd get Tillman'd. Soldiers playing Call of Duty strikes me as something people are going to look back on 20 years from now and think was really, really weird.
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CoD might be the most successful recruitment tool since conscription, so maybe not.
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Alouicious posted:it's a reference Right on.
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SlipUp posted:CoD might be the most successful recruitment tool since conscription, so maybe not. "Do I unlock SitRep after basic?" "......sure."
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SlipUp posted:CoD might be the most successful recruitment tool since conscription, so maybe not. I dunno, I am pretty sure GI Joe and Stripes made sure the military had its numbers in the 80s and 90s. Also stripes is great.
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waah posted:I dunno, I am pretty sure GI Joe and Stripes made sure the military had its numbers in the 80s and 90s. Stripes is the platonic ideal of military life.
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