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I finally finished adding all the rivers in North America for AtE. Why are there so many???
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Shadeoses posted:I finally finished adding all the rivers in North America for AtE. Why are there so many??? Hey could you add South America too? I'm especially interested in the Amazon...
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Jan 12, 2015 15:28
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AtE should definitely have an Amazon invasion.
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Jan 12, 2015 15:48
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BabyFur Denny posted:AtE should definitely have an Amazon invasion. All female rulers, can't marry, only take male concubines. Also have very high chance of tall and strong traits.
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Jan 12, 2015 15:56
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BabyFur Denny posted:AtE should definitely have an Amazon invasion. I think there's already a Brazilian invasion if you make it to the 2800s.
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Jan 12, 2015 15:56
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Demiurge4 posted:All female rulers, can't marry, only take male concubines. Also have very high chance of tall and strong traits. Also a random chance for concubines to become wounded, maimed, or die.
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Jan 12, 2015 17:10
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Amazons should be able to wax prisoners which should give effects similar to castration but only temporary.
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Jan 12, 2015 17:56
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FreudianSlippers posted:Amazons should be able to wax prisoners which should give effects similar to castration but only temporary. They can even use the same icon! 
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Jan 12, 2015 18:05
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If waxing were used in-game as a ritualistic form of torture AtE would instantly become mod of the year, and it's only January. 
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Jan 12, 2015 18:55
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FreudianSlippers posted:Amazons should be able to wax prisoners which should give effects similar to castration but only temporary. Screw that, death by snoo Snoo!  
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Jan 12, 2015 19:06
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Having a fantastic game right now, started out as a joke using the ruler designer to create a lunatic/imbecile ruler with insane levels of martial ability, starting with the king of the picts so he had lots of CB to spring into action with. Married off my son to a nice heiress then proceded to stomp all over pictland, and then suddenly died in battle 6 months into the game. Son at least was more level headed, slowly expanded using forged claims and then got a notice that he could press a weak claim against the kingdom of Mercia. Somehow I'd randomly married one of my whininig courtiers to a claimant, so a couple of plots and a war later she was my new wife and the queen of Mercia. But her previous children were the rightful heirs, so the eldest daughter was betrothed to my bastard son, and the boys had accidents, which is probably why we never managed to sire any further children before she passed childbearing age. Oh well I thought, at least my son will probably produce an heir that will unite the kingdoms. Nope, he produced a daughter (ineligible for succession) and proceeded to cheat on his wife despite her having huge tracts of land. He produced a legitimized bastard son who is now in the line of succession. Then the heiress to mercia died at a young age leaving my heir's daughter as the candidate. So I can either try to seduce my grandaughter and produce a male heir, then switch succession law to ultimogeniture, or, plot to kill my grandson so that my grandaughter is heir to my dynasty, except that when I wasn't looking she somehow took a husband who would then inherit the claims, so, fun fun fun. Oh in the meantime I've united the tribes, adopted feudal law and tried to help Mercia against various minor lords who don't like queens, built and observator, published the heretical notion that the Earth goes around the sun, picked up the Lunatic trait and converted the realm's currency to the Turnip.
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Jan 12, 2015 20:10
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I picked this up during the Steam sale and just started playing over the weekend. I've read through Kersch's excellent LP and have skimmed through some tutorials, but I'm still having a lot of trouble figuring things out. For my first game I chose the Duke of Gwynedd in Wales in 1066. The Duchy of Gwynedd seems to include the counties of Gwynedd and Perfeddwlad (which is run by a vassal). I'm also the Petty King of Powys, which I think is like a Duke? But it only covers the one county currently.  My only real goal for my first game was to unite and hold Wales. I don't know if there's a "King of Wales" title in the game, but I'd probably try for that too if it exists. Not really sure what to do to start, I married off a couple of daughters -- one to the King of Navarra, and one to a Prince who was heir to some other kingdom in Spain. I figured this might be good for military aid if I needed it later. I had claims on Shrewsbury and Hereford in England -- I guess they're a de jure part of the duchy of Powys? I have no idea. Anyway, I figured I'd try to take them while most of England's troops were busy fighting with the Normans. It worked! Well, sort of. I sieged the castle, then started on the other holdings. Then William the Conqueror showed up with 11,000 troops. My army got squished almost instantly, and William finished the siege, claiming the county for himself. Welp. After a few years of not accomplishing much, the game notified me that one of my nephews had a claim on the duchy of Deheubarth in south Wales. I'm not sure how to determine how large an army another ruler can raise, but I had a levy of 2000+ so I decided to press the claim for my nephew. My son-in-law king in Navarra sent a couple thousand troops to help, so we were in good shape. The Deheubarth army was smashed in the field, and all of the holdings in Dyfed were sieged. My war score jumped up to 100%, and I enforced my demands on the defeated ex-Duke. Now, I could swear that when I declared war, one of the listed victory outcomes was that the nephew in question would become a vassal of mine. However, when the war was over, the two counties of Deheubarth went under my nephew -- and he shows as independent with no liege. That was kind of a bummer -- it took a couple of years and almost two thousand dead soldiers to put that jerk in charge. I think maybe he wasn't part of my dynasty -- could that be it? Or is it because he became a Duke, and therefore can't be a vassal to another Duke? So I'm a good seven years in, and I've made no real advances other than gaining a few allies. William has solidified his hold on England, so I can't go east, and I really don't feel like re-fighting for the counties in the south I just took for my good-for-nothing nephew. This game has so much potential but I'm really stuck on the learning curve. I don't want to start over just yet, unless everyone screams at me that I've completely screwed this up and have no real chance to continue.
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Jan 12, 2015 20:31
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Vichan posted:Screw that, death by snoo Snoo! That's available in vanilla.
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Jan 12, 2015 20:37
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WhiteHowler posted:Or is it because he became a Duke, and therefore can't be a vassal to another Duke? It's this. At least he will always be your ally, if he is of the same dynasty (ie if he has the red blood drop icon on his portrait). And he will love you for getting him a duchy.
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Jan 12, 2015 20:42
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illectro posted:So I can either try to seduce my grandaughter and produce a male heir,
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Jan 12, 2015 20:54
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WhiteHowler posted:
To address a few points: Yes, a Petty King is just what the game calls independent dukes of a few certain cultures. Yes, there's a Kingdom of Wales (and if you want to get really ambitious once you get a better handle on things, you can make the Empire of Brittania/Prydain afterwards). If you want to determine how large an army someone can raise, look at their character sheet; to steal an image from someone earlier in the thread, the icon with the little helmet here that reads 85.79K is how many troops this character can raise (just be careful, because this doesn't count mercenaries, retinues, or holy orders!). And, as someone else noted, you can never have a vassal of equal rank to you. As a duke/petty king, giving away a duchy will make them independent, same as a king giving away a kingdom, an emperor giving away an empire, etc. And finally, starting over is always an option if you'd like to try again armed with some new knowledge or try a game in a different part of the world or something, but keep in mind that there's about 400 years left in the game, so stumbling in the first seven is not insurmountable by any means. Part of playing a game like this is that bad setbacks will happen, you will lose some, but at the same time, you always have the tools to claw your way back up.
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Jan 12, 2015 21:14
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This game, more than any other Paradox game, is forgiving of (and maybe even enriched by) everything falling apart, as long as your dynasty is still alive and you have a scrap of land to your name. If you're the emperor of poo poo mountain, all your vassals revolt, and you get busted down to count of nowheresville-- well, people start the game as counts or whatever, so you're no worse off than them. And you have claims on everything you lost. A given CK2 run is probably a lot more fun when things like that happen, I think. It breaks you out of the usual strategy game dilemma or either getting stronger until you reach that critical mass where the game becomes boring, or restraining yourself and risking falling behind the Jonses.
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Jan 12, 2015 22:08
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Catholicism is pretty strong. The Byzantines are catholic and don't seem to have any trouble with the Muslim blob, the Magyar became Russian catholics and formed the Empire of Carpathia which stretches from Bulgaria(the only Orthodox country in the world and a haven of heresy) to the Baltic. The Umayyids have somehow converted as well and still control most of Iberia and have beaten back several holy wars. The Pope has just called a crusade and although the Abbasids have been pretty stable since the beginning and have about 40K troops they'll be facing three empires that all have about 20-30k troops as well as a shitload af Karling kingdoms. Being a really powerful emperor is a bit boring so I'm thinking of trying to get the kingdom of Jerusalem in the crusade and then expand outwards but give most of the land to the pope except for a narrow path of counties that I'll use as a path to different countries. Basically become the Popes attack dog and not stop until I reach India so the entire Middle East will be under direct Papal control.
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Jan 12, 2015 23:40
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Started with the Charlemagne date as Duke of Svithjod and did the usual 'run around subjugating counties' stuff. I started saving up to create the Kingdom of Svithjod title, but then the King of Saxony, who had held Denmark and Saxony, died, leaving Denmark to his 2 year old son. Who had 250 troops. I marched in and Subjugated him, grabbing the Kingdom title and his land and then vassalised a few Counts in Norway, to make sure I got the Holy Sites. Then it was time to march around Finland, Conquesting for Moral Authority. I finally seiged down the last Suomi province I needed to hit 50% moral authority and went to the Religion tab to see it sitting at 40%. Literally 3 days before my war had ended, that spineless shitsack Saxony had caved to Charlemagne, losing the Holy Site in Paderborn for the Germanic faith. 
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Jan 13, 2015 00:26
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kingturnip posted:Started with the Charlemagne date as Duke of Svithjod and did the usual 'run around subjugating counties' stuff. Go burn churches in Ireland.
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Jan 13, 2015 00:29
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kingturnip posted:Started with the Charlemagne date as Duke of Svithjod and did the usual 'run around subjugating counties' stuff. Is it still early in the game? The Widukind event most likely will get it back under Germanic control.
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Jan 13, 2015 00:33
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marktheando posted:It's this. At least he will always be your ally, if he is of the same dynasty (ie if he has the red blood drop icon on his portrait). And he will love you for getting him a duchy. So what IS the best way to take over a neighboring Duchy if your highest title is Duke and you have no direct claim on it? I know you can have the Chancellor fabricate a claim, but I've had no luck with this so far. Marriage seems like a long game, and it's tricky (at least for me) to figure out the conditions to give one of my descendants a claim. And Holy War only works in specific situations. I just want to unite all those poor Welsh people and all their extra vowels!
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Jan 13, 2015 01:25
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WhiteHowler posted:Makes sense. Marriage/inheritance shenanigans and fabricated claims are your only options. You can hope to fabricate a ducal claim, but more likely you'll just have to take it a county at a time. And before you declare war on someone you think you can beat, make sure to check what alliances he has--it'll suck for you if you're starting to besiege his poo poo and suddenly the king of France tromps in with 15,000 of his closest friends. Once you control more than half of the counties in a duchy (2/3, 3/4, 3/5, 4/6) you can usurp the title if you have enough cash (it isn't cheap, but it's doable). You'll gain the ducal title and de jure claims on whatever counties within that de jure duchy you don't yet control. Be aware also (you probably already are, but just to be safe!) that if you get a claim on a county that's a vassal of (for instance) England, you won't merely have to beat the count or even the duke in a war to take it--you'll have to beat the king of England. Which you likely won't be able to dream of. But if something you have a claim on goes into a revolt then you can try to sneak in and take it from just that count/duke--be aware, though, that the king's army will still regard your army as hostile and try to kill it. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Jan 13, 2015 01:32
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FreudianSlippers posted:Catholicism is pretty strong.
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Jan 13, 2015 02:28
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Strudel Man posted:It's the holy orders. I really think they need some toning down, because 10,000 man stacks of heavy infantry and cavalry can wreck anyone less than empire-sized, or at least double-kingdom, and catholics have like five or six of the things available. On a related note, something definitely seems a bit off when the Knights of Calatrava can almost singlehandedly boot the Umayyads from Andalusia during a crusade. They eventually got some help from other European powers, but most of the crusade was the Knights' doomstack trouncing the Muslim armies as they tried to group up. I'm mostly mad because they won practically the entire Iberian peninsula right before I could snag some territory there and holy war the heck out of the place.
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Jan 13, 2015 03:57
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Strudel Man posted:It's the holy orders. I really think they need some toning down, because 10,000 man stacks of heavy infantry and cavalry can wreck anyone less than empire-sized, or at least double-kingdom, and catholics have like five or six of the things available. Yet somehow the crusade I mentioned failed spectacularly. It didn't help that most of the largest Catholics realms were busy with civil war and didn't join. The now Catholic Umayyids are tearing up North-Africa with holy war after holy war so at least things aren't all bad. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Jan 13, 2015 04:17
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FreudianSlippers posted:Yet somehow the crusade I mentioned failed spectacularly. It didn't help that most of the largest Catholics realms were busy with civil war and didn't join. The now Catholic Umayyids are tearing up North-Africa with holy war after holy war so at least things aren't all bad.
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Jan 13, 2015 05:13
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WhiteHowler posted:Makes sense. I just started recently as well, so take this with a grain of salt. If you have the duchy of Gwynedd and the duchy of Powys the best way for you to go would be to try to absorb the independent county of Glamorgan to your south. Find somebody who has a claim on the county and is in your dynasty or somebody you can make a vassal, then go to war. If you press a vassal's claim on a county, it will become yours. In the meantime, set your chancellor to fabricate a claim on one of the counties in Deheubarth. This could take a while. You can increase the chance by getting a chancellor. Maybe go to the find character section and see if there's anybody out there with a high diplo stat that would accept an invitation to your court. This can be a little tricky, generall only title claimants accept will accept an invitation. If you're lucky and you can find somebody with a high diplo stat and a claim on a nearby county/duchy, that could help you set up future expansion. Once you get the claim on one of Deheubarth's counties, press that. You'll have the majority of Deheubarth at that point and can take the title from whoever currently has it. I'm not sure exactly what happens to the person you took it from, but if they're still in charge of the other Deheubarth county you'll have to wait 10 years before pressing your new de jure ducal claim. If you've done all this you should have 6 welsh counties (Powys, Gwynedd, Perfeddwlad, Dyfed, Gwent and Glamorgan) and you'll be able to form the kingdom of wales. Then invade ireland I guess.
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Jan 13, 2015 06:51
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Just make sure you have the requisite cash (150 for a county/300 for a duchy, I believe) to fabricate a claim before you set your Chancellor to do that. You can go into the red a little bit but it's a Bad Idea unless you have a specific plan for getting out of it very soon.
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Jan 13, 2015 07:26
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Eric the Mauve posted:Just make sure you have the requisite cash (150 for a county/300 for a duchy, I believe) to fabricate a claim before you set your Chancellor to do that. You can go into the red a little bit but it's a Bad Idea unless you have a specific plan for getting out of it very soon. I think it's proportional to how much your income is, but that might not be the case with feudal rulers. I know in my republic game, it's not even 1100, and fabricating a county claim costs well over 2 g's.
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Jan 13, 2015 08:34
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In my latest AtE game, I had one province bouncing back and forth between High Church and Rust Cultist (And, later, Commercialism) practically every month. And it looks like it will continue for at least two years, because the count is in regency and I can't demand the regent convert. On a related note, it would be cool for Consumerists to have the opportunity to spend absolutely absurd amounts of dosh on events. Because once I converted, I seem to have lost all my nifty decisions. Can't even throw a summer fair and have three different monkey trainers attacked by monkeys (An actual thing that happened when I threw a fair).
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Jan 13, 2015 09:52
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Has Paradox said anything about when a fix for the levy bug is coming out? Assuming no, but I don't read their forums.
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Jan 13, 2015 17:28
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Volkerball posted:I think it's proportional to how much your income is, but that might not be the case with feudal rulers. I know in my republic game, it's not even 1100, and fabricating a county claim costs well over 2 g's. It is, try fabricating claims as a tribal and it's a pittance.
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Jan 13, 2015 17:35
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Bold Robot posted:Has Paradox said anything about when a fix for the levy bug is coming out? Assuming no, but I don't read their forums. Paradox Forum Moderator posted:There is no ETA, just that it will be released soon.
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Jan 13, 2015 18:16
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Bold Robot posted:Has Paradox said anything about when a fix for the levy bug is coming out? Assuming no, but I don't read their forums. Because if it's not a bug, the military AI seems kind of wonky.
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Jan 13, 2015 19:00
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Volkerball posted:I think it's proportional to how much your income is, but that might not be the case with feudal rulers. I know in my republic game, it's not even 1100, and fabricating a county claim costs well over 2 g's. It's either 1 year or 2 years of income, depending upon if you got a claim on a county or a duchy.
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Jan 13, 2015 19:02
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The game's still broken, right? e: whoops, should have read that post a few posts above mine.
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Jan 13, 2015 19:07
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WhiteHowler posted:Is this the bug causing my neighbors to keep a standing, massively depleted army in the field for years on end doing absolutely nothing? It is precisely that bug, yes.
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Jan 13, 2015 19:18
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Bold Robot posted:Has Paradox said anything about when a fix for the levy bug is coming out? Assuming no, but I don't read their forums. A patch should come this week unless anything major pops up. So in essence hopefully soon but no promises.
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Patch Notes: *Fixed bug where AI couldn't disband levies, making them unable to declare war Bug Notes: *AI can't end wars now
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