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I am absolutely blown away by the GT350R. It's getting really hard to ignore how amazing American performance cars have become. The GT350 grabbed my attention and the GT350R actually has me thinking seriously about buying a drat Mustang. Up until now I've planned on the 997 GT3 or a 991 C2S for next year. Now I'm wondering why I want to pay more for slower cars.
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I came here to cry about how those are ST badges and not RS   Kinfolk Jones posted:I've heard that Ford isn't gonna show the RS until Geneva in March. I was definitely hoping for today, but Ford already brought it today. Because it's more popular globally? That doesn't really make sense without a credible source. Rhyno posted:Did I read something about an FR-S based RWD sedan coming from Toyota? If they make it be assure that it'll be under powered lol
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Jan 13, 2015 04:13
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Goddamn I love the color on these. Puts the T in beautiful.
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Jan 13, 2015 04:47
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Everyday Lurker posted:Goddamn I love the color on these. Puts the T in beautiful. They really are, it's like a mix of Grabber Blue and Deep Impact Blue.
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Jan 13, 2015 04:49
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Ford has had the best blues on the past few Mustangs. I bet the GT in black looks weird though.
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Mat_Drinks posted:
It's weird to only care about one metric
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:I am absolutely blown away by the GT350R. It's getting really hard to ignore how amazing American performance cars have become. The GT350 grabbed my attention and the GT350R actually has me thinking seriously about buying a drat Mustang. Up until now I've planned on the 997 GT3 or a 991 C2S for next year. Now I'm wondering why I want to pay more for slower cars. The amount of car you can get for the money is insane. I've seen Z/28's in the low $50k's new. That's so tempting.
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PCOS Bill posted:It's weird to only care about one metric Not if that one metric plays a vital role in the overall drivability of said car.
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The best thing from the show is actually the new Tacoma and its new engine that was developed this century.
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But only 3.5 liters and atkinson cycle, not much chance of it comparing to the 3.6 in the GM trucks.
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howling_mad posted:Not if that one metric plays a vital role in the overall drivability of said car. Gosh I hope my 110hp car is still drivable, it's quite underpowered by today's metrics (okay, and the metrics of its day)...
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PCOS Bill posted:It's weird to only care about one metric I'm allowed to talk poo poo because I own a BRZ 
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 Double DIN stereo? Pretty nice. I think the 3.5l is the engine that can run either on Atkinson or Otto cycle as the situation demands, I think it's the one used in the GS450h? I doubt they are going to give up anything to the GM engine.
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Powershift posted:But only 3.5 liters and atkinson cycle, not much chance of it comparing to the 3.6 in the GM trucks. No specs yet but it should be comparable on power and chances are it'll be more reliable. The rest of the truck sure as poo poo will be as well, regardless of how nice the GM twins look on paper they're still cheaply designed and built GM products and aside from some earlier issues with the frame supplier not rustproofing them the Tacomas are about as durable as it gets. I've had a Colorado before, never again. New interior on the Tacoma is nice as well, and they'll still offer it with the six-speed manual which is cool.
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Jan 13, 2015 07:32
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Hey guys I heard you like trucks with the manufacturer's name splayed across the entire front and back in case you forget? 
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Jan 13, 2015 07:34
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What the poo poo.
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oRenj9 posted:They really are, it's like a mix of Grabber Blue and Deep Impact Blue.
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So Cool. 
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I thought the old joke was that their trucks were badass because they say ram on the side and dodge on the front. Now it's ruined! blk posted:Chevy != Cadillac. Sorry somehow when your post said Ford and domestic brands then diametrically opposed my brain just assumed you meant GM and then mentioned Cadillac as a subset of the overall business. Yeah I'm not a fan of their renaming rebranding nonsense but then again I was never their target audience.
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Throatwarbler posted:Hey guys I heard you like trucks with the manufacturer's name splayed across the entire front and back in case you forget? The giant 'FORD' on the Raptor works but this on the Ram just seems like it misses the mark. I assume this thing is Dodge's Raptor? (Or is that Ram's Raptor?)
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KakerMix posted:The giant 'FORD' on the Raptor works but this on the Ram just seems like it misses the mark. I assume this thing is Dodge's Raptor? (Or is that Ram's Raptor?) Nah, it's more like the Tacoma TRD Pro-X or whatever. 1 inch body lift, tape and stripe package, no other mechanical changes.
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gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress. I JUST bought an ST two years ago and it already looks rather dated compared to the new one. Goddamnit I want to see what the RS looks like, as well as it's specs. edit: Actually I take it back, that angle is EXTREMELY flattering to the new ST. The angle makes it seem MUCH lower than it really is. The front grill in reality is about waist high it looks like. Also the yellow is not flattering to the new model at all Wicaeed fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Those flying buttresses and all are probably functional and that's great, but the new GT isn't as good looking as the last one. That said, it's still quite a good looking car and I hope it wins races and isn't marked up to gently caress by car dealers so they actually sell the proper number and I get to see more of them on the road.
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AlmightyPants posted:Those flying buttresses and all are probably functional and that's great, but the new GT isn't as good looking as the last one. That said, it's still quite a good looking car and I hope it wins races and isn't marked up to gently caress by car dealers so they actually sell the proper number and I get to see more of them on the road. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/90019/ford-gt-supercar-storms-into-detroit quote:Prices are yet to be confirmed, but a spokesman steered us towards the Lamborghini Aventador, which costs from £260,000, as a guide. There's no official word on the size of the production run either, although the spokesman said it would be "significantly more exclusive" than its predecessor that sold a little over 4,000 units between 2004 and 2006. It's going to be $400k.
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Throatwarbler posted:Hey guys I heard you like trucks with the manufacturer's name splayed across the entire front and back in case you forget? Those mufflers are hilariously small if that thing goes into production.
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Jan 13, 2015 13:55
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That's what they have on the truck right now.
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Wow, Ford became a hardcore porn company so gradually we didn't notice.
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That new grille is terrible. The rear badging is probably pretty decent looking body colored. Even though Ram has the powerwagon, showing that thing off while Ford has the new Raptor is a pretty big disappointment. Ford is really bringing it this year.
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Ford's been bringing it for awhile now. Do they even make a turd? I mean, the Fiesta and Focus and Fusion are all top-notch consumer vehicles, and their SUVs and crossovers all seem to be popular as hell. I'm starting to get concerned about the other carmakers. CornHolio fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Well, maybe if you include Lincoln's as Ford's. Maybe they'll start giving that attention soon. Otherwise Ford's really been knocking it out of the park
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The Taurus is kind of a turd. It's horribly out of date and has a cramped interior for how big it is. Honestly, outside of the SHO I really don't see why you'd buy one over the Fusion. That and it's MKS twin are probably the weakest links in Ford's portfolio.
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CornHolio posted:Ford's been bringing it for awhile now. Do they even make a turd? I mean, the Fiesta and Focus and Fusion are all top-notch consumer vehicles, and their SUVs and crossovers all seem to be popular as hell. On the other hand, GMH just churning out Korean turds. E: Q_res posted:The Taurus is kind of a turd. It's horribly out of date and has a cramped interior for how big it is. Honestly, outside of the SHO I really don't see why you'd buy one over the Fusion. I wonder if Ford Aus are going to tell us it's the mondeo/fusion or nothing, or whether they finally get the taurus here to replace the falcon. They've been threatening that since the 1990s. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Q_res posted:The Taurus is kind of a turd. It's horribly out of date and has a cramped interior for how big it is. Honestly, outside of the SHO I really don't see why you'd buy one over the Fusion. In defence of the Taurus I just don't think any manufacturer gives a poo poo about full sized, economy, vehicles anymore. The class isn't very competitive and rightfully so because no one buys them. If you really need more space than a fusion you're probably going to make the jump to an explorer or flex. The only people buying fullsized are people who are shopping german or high end japanese.
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The Fusion definitely stomps out the current Taurus in basically every practical regard.
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Q_res posted:The Taurus is kind of a turd. It's horribly out of date and has a cramped interior for how big it is. Honestly, outside of the SHO I really don't see why you'd buy one over the Fusion. I was actually going to mention that but got distracted. It dates back to '09 but I genuinely thought it was even older. That being said, my dad has a '13 SHO and the level of technology in it is incredible. He bought it over similarly-priced BMWs and Mercedes and he loves it. It's gigantic and looks like it can't handle for poo poo, and yeah it's getting long in the tooth. I'd say Chrysler has them for full-size car, even though the 300 isn't as cool as it used to be, but I'm not sure. Maybe it's a dying segment.
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It is a dying segment for sure. Unfortunately the main car I buy, bought one every 5 years for the past 20 years, along with ute's/small trucks. So I guess I'm switching to euro wagons like the ford mondeo or skoda octavia or something, because gently caress SUVs. e: No, I'll probably become the people I loathe, have dual cab ranger truck as the sole vehicle. So I still have load/tow capacity for work, and have kids in the back and make use of it as an oversized shopping trolley on the weekends because there's no economy full size cars with a decent tow capacity. (Medium and small cars don't work so well down here as towing laws seem more strict than Europe) Fo3 fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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The 'rebel' on the back of the Ram just shows what kinda market they're aiming for.
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88h88 posted:The 'rebel' on the back of the Ram just shows what kinda market they're aiming for. They should just make it a bro-truck from the factory. It's pretty close already. Five foot lift, spotlights on the roof, brights that don't turn off ever, exhaust stacks, a bunch of pristine body cladding, and a giant RAM decal on the back window. They'd hit their target market right between the eyes.
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Wheeee posted:No specs yet but it should be comparable on power and chances are it'll be more reliable.  Even the die hard Tacoma people don't seem excited about the "new" Tacoma. It's the same thing they did with the Camry. It's a facelift. GM actually brought their game and caught Toyota with their pants down on this one.
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