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William Bear posted:This article is sad, I wish it had more data instead of just anecdotes. Are there hundreds of these people? Thousands? The only clue is a later line stating that one broker has about 2 customers a month who refuse subsidies. Some people just need to go away.
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Radbot posted:Not sure how that relates to childcare tax credits, the subject of the discussion we were having, but OK. It's an example of tax policy affecting behavior. You know, the subject we were discussing. But okay!
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Xibanya posted:EDIT: to clarify, it appears you think I'm saying people will stop having babies if they don't get tax credits or that the gov't is the biggest factor in preventing demographic crises. That's not the case. What I'm arguing is that if you have a situation in which there is net negative population growth (ie, people are procreating below the replacement rate) then one way for a government to reverse this trend is to provide financial incentives to have children. No, my original post was in response to: Rygar201 posted:Basically a society needs children to continue and caring for a child is expensive so Congress has decided to somewhat mitigate that cost through tax policy. I was saying that is a really incomplete and bad argument in isolation since it implies that we are actually worried that without government subsidy people might not have enough children to perpetuate society. I don't think that anyone actually believes that and for that reason I don't think anyone would be convinced by such an argument, which is why I said it was bad. I wasn't saying that child tax credits are a bad idea. Rygar201 posted:We can easily do both. I can't believe I have to defend child credits to liberals. We can and should subsidize child rearing and make it easier to afford higher education I'm not attacking child credits, I'm attacking your previous terrible defense of child credits. Eletriarnation fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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The Senate invoked cloture on the motion to proceed to S. 1. (Keystone) 63 - 32. Democrats voting in favor: Bennet (CO), Carper (DE), Casey (PA), Donnelly (IN), Heitkamp (ND), King (ME), Manchin (WV), McCaskill (MO), Udall (NM), Tester (MT), Warner (VA). Joementum fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Jan 13, 2015 00:55
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Joementum posted:The Senate invoked cloture on the motion to proceed to S. 1. (Keystone) 63 - 32. Still shy of what they need to override a veto, at least. Amergin posted:Japan has demographic issues that are more tied to their culture than anything else. Specifically their work culture (because who wants to do the dirty at midnight after you've worked a 12+ hour day and then gone to a forced bar run with the boss?). Eh, work culture is only a small part of it. It's more a death by a thousand cuts situation. ReidRansom fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Jan 13, 2015 01:03
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Eletriarnation posted:No, my original post was in response to: I never made that point, you're tilting at a strawman
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Jan 13, 2015 01:12
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Joementum posted:The Senate invoked cloture on the motion to proceed to S. 1. (Keystone) 63 - 32. Why do we like Bennet again?
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Jan 13, 2015 01:13
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Duke Igthorn posted:Why do we like Bennet again?  \/\/ Applies to you to \/\/ Rygar201 fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Jan 13, 2015 01:14
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Joementum posted:The Senate invoked cloture on the motion to proceed to S. 1. (Keystone) 63 - 32. Joe Manchin is anti-coal. You heard it here first.
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Jan 13, 2015 01:19
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Bonus quote of the day, "When I heard this, frankly, I choked on my porridge and I thought it must be April Fool's Day. This guy is clearly a complete idiot." ~ David Cameron, living caricature, on Fox News' contention that Birmingham is "totally Muslim".
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Jan 13, 2015 01:23
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Did he call his bro Barack Obama and tell him about hit so they could share a good laugh?
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Jan 13, 2015 01:27
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If so, he should tweet another picture of himself on the phone so the internet can make fun of him again
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Jan 13, 2015 01:29
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Xibanya posted:I'll be the first to say Spaniards are the laziest, most life-enjoying people I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. And they ain't making babies. I remember people talking about this back in 2007 so it's not just because of the crisis. And Spaniards love loving, boy do they love loving. Every time I went to the park to smoke I saw people loving. Yes, in public, yes, in broad daylight. The argument that people aren't having sex because they're too tired makes no sense to me. Slaves in the US had positive birth rates. People make time for sex, that's the whole point of libido. In the age of scientifically assisted family planning, it's hard to believe that birth rates have anything to do with relative sex drives.
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Jan 13, 2015 01:44
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Joementum posted:If so, he should tweet another picture of himself on the phone so the internet can make fun of him again I hope he signs his texts to Barack Obama with LOL 
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Jan 13, 2015 01:48
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Joementum posted:Bonus quote of the day, "When I heard this, frankly, I choked on my porridge and I thought it must be April Fool's Day. This guy is clearly a complete idiot." ~ David Cameron, living caricature, on Fox News' contention that Birmingham is "totally Muslim". I am sad David Cameron did not contribute any #foxnewsfacts, but I guess that would make Pappy Murdoch sad.
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Jan 13, 2015 01:50
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Marco Rubio seen here in his natural habitat: drinking water.
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I'm going to drop it after this, but...Rygar201 posted:I never made that point, you're tilting at a strawman If you don't see how: Rygar201 posted:Basically a society needs children to continue and caring for a child is expensive so Congress has decided to somewhat mitigate that cost through tax policy. I posted:...implies that we are actually worried that without government subsidy people might not have enough children to perpetuate society. then I don't know what to tell you. (EDIT: Again, I don't think you actually believe this, just that it's what you seem to be saying. Since you didn't mean this, perhaps you can elaborate on what you meant?) I only said anything because I don't think child tax credits are quite as simple an issue as you portrayed them to be when complaining about Rygar201 posted:how (some) child free people get so pissy about tax breaks for parents. and if I were one of these people I'd be thoroughly unconvinced by what you did say. Eletriarnation fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Jan 13, 2015 01:57
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George Wallace Jr. is mad about the Selma movie's portrayal of his dad.quote:The movie "Selma" suggests that my father ordered troopers to beat participants in a nighttime civil rights march while television cameras were absent, which is pure, unadulterated fiction. Nor do I recall him ever making mention of a "mongrel" race that would result if segregation were ended. The truth and facts simply do not fit the image of my father that Oprah Winfrey and Brad Pitt wish to promote, so the producers needlessly changed history in order to tell what was an already compelling story in "Selma." If only we could have seen the real George Wallace 
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Jan 13, 2015 02:07
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Maybe you thought some Fox News pundit said the dumbest thing today about Obama not visiting Paris. Well, you were wrong. It's never a good idea to bet against the Texas Congressional delegation in such matters. 
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Jan 13, 2015 03:48
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Joementum posted:George Wallace Jr. is mad about the Selma movie's portrayal of his dad. quote:"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny . . . and I say . . . segregation today . . . segregation tomorrow . . . segregation forever. -George Wallace, 1963 We can't end segregation or else we shall end up a worthless mongrel unit. How could anyone have drawn implications of a mongrel race from such language?
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Jan 13, 2015 04:27
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Jan 13, 2015 04:40
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Joementum posted:George Wallace Jr. is mad about the Selma movie's portrayal of his dad. Wallace actually was well known for being especially sympathetic towards blacks when he was a judge. He adopted the segregationist platform after it turned out that it polled well. So basically he was acting how Nixon would given the appropriate audience.
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Jan 13, 2015 04:41
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Joementum posted:George Wallace Jr. is mad about the Selma movie's portrayal of his dad. So, uh, I was pleasantly surprised to see that Oprah Winfrey and Brad Pitt were producers of Selma.
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Jan 13, 2015 04:42
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Joementum posted:The Senate invoked cloture on the motion to proceed to S. 1. (Keystone) 63 - 32. Is it bad that I just can't bring myself to give a poo poo either way besides kind of wanting to deny conservatives a victory? Keystone is seriously the most inconsequential political football of the last decade. Actually wait, the 10 year anniversary of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube removal is still a month away. Ok, so second most inconsequential.
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Jan 13, 2015 05:59
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computer parts posted:Wallace actually was well known for being especially sympathetic towards blacks when he was a judge. He adopted the segregationist platform after it turned out that it polled well. Not that it polled well, but that get lost the 1958 Governor campaign. In the primary it was Wallace, who as a judge known for being more lenient than the rest towards blacks (he gave probation some times), against John Malcolm Patterson, who ran with the support of the KKK. Losing that race lead to his famous quotes on changing his position, which I will link to rather than restate. He's really a rather sad case study in how all consuming ambition can lead to becoming a terrible person.
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Jan 13, 2015 06:23
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Ted Cruz would like the Senate to repeal Common Core. I'll give you 3 guesses what is wrong with that idea
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Jan 13, 2015 06:30
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computer parts posted:Wallace actually was well known for being especially sympathetic towards blacks when he was a judge. He adopted the segregationist platform after it turned out that it polled well. I didn't know that. And it makes him an even worse person, honestly.
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Jan 13, 2015 06:32
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Fried Chicken posted:Ted Cruz would like the Senate to repeal Common Core. I'll give you 3 guesses what is wrong with that idea Repeal the DoE.
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Jan 13, 2015 07:00
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Fried Chicken posted:Not that it polled well, but that get lost the 1958 Governor campaign. In the primary it was Wallace, who as a judge known for being more lenient than the rest towards blacks (he gave probation some times), against John Malcolm Patterson, who ran with the support of the KKK. Losing that race lead to his famous quotes on changing his position, which I will link to rather than restate. gently caress sellouts, but part of the problem with people like Wallace and his modern equivalents is that they represent what a sizeable portion of America actually wants, which is why the keep getting elected. Sure, the positions may be spiteful, self-destructive, and factually wrong, but their vote counts as much as yours or mine.
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Jan 13, 2015 07:13
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Joementum posted:Maybe you thought some Fox News pundit said the dumbest thing today about Obama not visiting Paris. Well, you were wrong. It's never a good idea to bet against the Texas Congressional delegation in such matters. I literally laughed out loud. gently caress, man.
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Jan 13, 2015 07:15
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Joementum posted:Maybe you thought some Fox News pundit said the dumbest thing today about Obama not visiting Paris. Well, you were wrong. It's never a good idea to bet against the Texas Congressional delegation in such matters. RESET THE CLOCK
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Jan 13, 2015 09:26
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So is the Subcommittee on Space, Science and Competitiveness that Ted Cruz is in charge of another toothless committee, or will he actually be able to do some damage from his post?
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Jan 13, 2015 09:52
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baw posted:So is the Subcommittee on Space, Science and Competitiveness that Ted Cruz is in charge of another toothless committee, or will he actually be able to do some damage from his post? If you care about science/research funding and environmental science, this is going to be a horrible, horrible few years. And it's not just Ted Cruz, we got other science deniers, including one from Florida.
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Jan 13, 2015 10:06
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Space exploration is cool and everything but on the other hand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtBy_ppG4hY
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Neeksy posted:If you care about science/research funding and environmental science, this is going to be a horrible, horrible few years. Not like it was very important to begin with.
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Yo, financial poo poo is the reason why my wife and I are not planning to have another child. If we were in a slightly better financial situation plus a tax credit that would certainly help. To make it clear: we would like to have another child but we can't afford it.
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Doctor Butts posted:Yo, financial poo poo is the reason why my wife and I are not planning to have another child. If we were in a slightly better financial situation plus a tax credit that would certainly help. To make it clear: we would like to have another child but we can't afford it. You're more fiscally responsible than most of the assholes in this country.
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Jan 13, 2015 15:25
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Cali goons: Y'all like Kamala Harris?
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She cool, yeah. Though when I was voting for her in the June primary I saw a certain Orly Taitz running against her and was tempted to vote for her instead as a joke.
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