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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Kazinsal posted:

I deliver!


This is 1/16 of the full image.

1/4 size (8.23 MB PNG, 2996x2024): http://files.cordilon.net/SC4/Victoria-District-Quarter.png
Full size (128 MB PNG holy gently caress, 11984x8096): http://files.cordilon.net/SC4/Victoria-District-Full.png

This is a small (four large tiles) section of the region I'm working on from the region map in the thread OP. All the screenshots involved were taken at 1920x1080 at zoom level 3. The mosaic was put together by overlapping screenshots in Photoshop, with seams fixed up with the clone stamp and content aware fill tools. It took about two hours to take all the screenshots (all 74 of them) and edit them together. Most of the seams are fixed, but blending the water textures together was a bit of a pain in some spots so it kinda looks like rear end at lower zooms.

As I work on the region I'll probably update the mosaics, and create more for different sections. If people are interested, that is.

That's a lot of work to put into the pictures, but it's appreciated, there's so much detail. I really like what you've got here; I especially like how realistic that highway circular looks. Kazinsal's is really nice too! All those trees are being used to great effect.

I'm early into a new region that I'm trying to build up gradually from farming to urban, and I've largely abandoned efforts to make my farms look nice. Just slap them down like big American megafarms, good enough for me. I do wish it was possible to have farms that are automatically surrounded by fences/hedges/trees and so forth, because when you're filling a lot of space with them it becomes pretty drat time consuming to make each one look nice.

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benzine
Oct 21, 2010
Kazinsal, being a super sperg, there is monorail station unconnected. That screenshot makes me want to play SC4 right now.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
Thanks for the comments everyone :)

benzine posted:

Kazinsal, being a super sperg, there is monorail station unconnected. That screenshot makes me want to play SC4 right now.

Ugh, I know. I was in the middle of building the whole monorail system when I decided "hey I wonder if I could do a high detail mosaic of this entire sector of the map" and, well, got this. The system also isn't connected to the southeast tile, though it crosses the border into it.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Other than all the goon packs, is there a relatively small (like, 500mb Max) level 9-15 CAMelot pack that is universally popular and recommended? I figured out why my cities are stalling at around 225k residents: since I'm using straight vanilla growables all of the buildings are at level 8 and there's nowhere left for them to go :doh:

Also trip report for the Aspyr Mac release: I used a Java based datpacker called JDatPack or something like that on the everything else folder of the OF3.0 and while it actually loaded the region, there were still far too many files and I get beach balling when I load a city up which requires a force quit.

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro
there have been a lot of really sweet cities posts goons

keep it up

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

Tusen Takk posted:

Other than all the goon packs, is there a relatively small (like, 500mb Max) level 9-15 CAMelot pack that is universally popular and recommended? I figured out why my cities are stalling at around 225k residents: since I'm using straight vanilla growables all of the buildings are at level 8 and there's nowhere left for them to go :doh:

Also trip report for the Aspyr Mac release: I used a Java based datpacker called JDatPack or something like that on the everything else folder of the OF3.0 and while it actually loaded the region, there were still far too many files and I get beach balling when I load a city up which requires a force quit.

Sorry to say, you are going to have to register on simtropolis and simdevotion and spend a few hours searching. Your city shouldn't be stalling though despite not having CAM. CAM just adds more growth stages in to have a better blend of buildings going from 1 story to sky scraper. There's probably something else stopping your cities population from increasing. Education/Health not high enough for sims wanting HT industry, no airport, poor transport (long commute), no link to sim nation. Even some of the rewards push over the barrier like the stock exchange or convention centre.

As for education, remember you need elementary (kids), high school (teenagers), college (young adults), and libraries/museums (stops education eroding with museums being better). Coverage also matters. Whenever you place a education or health building, its effects take awhile to kick in so if you drop a high school on an area that was out of coverage and showing red on the education overlay, it really isn't going to fully yield its effects till the next generation which is typically about 50 years. So sometimes when you reach a hump and not sure why, have a look at all your coverage and fix it and run it for 50 years.

Big buildings and HT are also based on how much you have of that particular zone in your region. If anything, CAM makes it a longer wait to get the big buildings.

http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1987.0 Cam growth stages. Vanilla stops at 8. Remember to look further down at the fire/park one also.

JDatPack is what I used to pack all these files. MAC sucks

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Some mods that are pretty good to get the MAC third world computers started.

Yes the dependencies suck, welcome to having to start your own mod packs for MAC. Write them down. WRITE THEM DOWN. One thing to note is some files may potentially be outdated and be part of a mega pack that the author has made where he has combined his 10 files into one big file. You'll notice this on the earlier files but simdevotion and tropolis are pretty good for saying it's outdated and give you a link to a mega pack. WRITE THE loving DEPENDENCY DOWN YOU DOWNLOAD. You'll get to a point where you won't have to worry about dependencies after a while but still check that list you wrote down. If only the authors go together and made a monster pack of all files but they are spergy pubbie cunts thinking their work is some sacred copyright piece of art.

Great Mod Authors, click the link to view all their files.

http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=24419
http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=85340
http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=2813
http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=5563
http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=5104 - NDEX/Sky Scrapers as mentioned below
http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=53778
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_search_00.php - Search under creator for mattb325

Farms

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/26080-simpeg-agricultural-mod-spam/ DOWNLOAD THIS

Industry Packs

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20920-industry-pack-1/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20921-industry-pack-2/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21191-industry-pack-03/
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1136

Commercial Packs

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/12051-rls-small-shops/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/10886-peg-subterranean-mall-v205/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/30077-midrise-office-pack-volume-5/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/13632-uk-high-street-shops-tonkso-set-3/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/13588-uk-high-street-shops-tonkso-set-1/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/29609-pez-restaurant-relots/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/14249-uk-retail-park-pack-1/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/14288-uk-retail-park-pack-2/
Skyscrapers don't usually come in packs due to their size. Typically needed to be downloaded individually. NDEX do the best skyscrapers I think. Look above for a link to their stuff.

Residential Packs

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11503-rls-cottages/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11518-rls-mobile-homes/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11239-rls-small-homes/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11125-rls-suburban-townhomes/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11124-rls-suburban-condos/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4241-brownstone-apartments/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4240-baltimore-sweel-front-town-homes/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4200-bsc-evening-town-homes/

Transport

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/17670-roadtop-mass-transit-v3-installers/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21570-underground-car-park/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/26114-roadside-parking-lots-pack/

Education/Fire/Police etc

Best to search those and pick the ones you like. There's so many to chose form depending on your fancy.

Learn to use simdevotion and it's power search. It's a pain to sign up but not everything is on simtropolis and it does have some better choice in some areas. Plus it has a file tracker so you know if you have downloaded something.

The list above is a nice little starter but it doesn't even put a small dent on the PC mod files goons can download :smug:. gently caress MAC's

WRITE DOWN DEPENDENCY MODS.

E - If you downloaded my mod pack, don't bother getting any of these, you'll have them already.

Tai fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jan 13, 2015

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

I just want some Russian website to say "gently caress you" and megapack all SC4devotion files, intentionally erase the names of the authors and replace them all with random cyrillic characters and spam posts with the link to the megapack on that stupid forum of theirs.

I don't think I'll ever actually play this game again because the existing megapacks aren't quite what I want and it takes like a day to get all the files sorted before I can even begin making my perfect Polish city or whatever. gently caress those stupid nerds.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
OF 3.0 or my pack actually has a lot of polish or close to style stuff in.

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!

Kazinsal posted:

Thanks for the comments everyone :)


Ugh, I know. I was in the middle of building the whole monorail system when I decided "hey I wonder if I could do a high detail mosaic of this entire sector of the map" and, well, got this. The system also isn't connected to the southeast tile, though it crosses the border into it.

Here's a handy application to automate stiching of images (meant for panoramic shots, but should work for screenshots as well): http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/brown/autostitch/autostitch.html

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

Samopsa posted:

Here's a handy application to automate stiching of images (meant for panoramic shots, but should work for screenshots as well): http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/brown/autostitch/autostitch.html

Neat stuff, unfortunately the free version can't do planar projections, just spherical, which would fish-eye the edges of the image. :(

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Tai posted:

Some mods that are pretty good to get the MAC third world computers started.

Yes the dependencies suck, welcome to having to start your own mod packs for MAC. Write them down. WRITE THEM DOWN. One thing to note is some files may potentially be outdated and be part of a mega pack that the author has made where he has combined his 10 files into one big file. You'll notice this on the earlier files but simdevotion and tropolis are pretty good for saying it's outdated and give you a link to a mega pack. WRITE THE loving DEPENDENCY DOWN YOU DOWNLOAD. You'll get to a point where you won't have to worry about dependencies after a while but still check that list you wrote down. If only the authors go together and made a monster pack of all files but they are spergy pubbie cunts thinking their work is some sacred copyright piece of art.

Great Mod Authors, click the link to view all their files.

http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=24419
http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=85340
http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=2813
http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=5563
http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=5104 - NDEX/Sky Scrapers as mentioned below
http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=53778

Farms

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/26080-simpeg-agricultural-mod-spam/ DOWNLOAD THIS

Industry Packs

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20920-industry-pack-1/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20921-industry-pack-2/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21191-industry-pack-03/
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1136

Commercial Packs

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/12051-rls-small-shops/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/10886-peg-subterranean-mall-v205/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/30077-midrise-office-pack-volume-5/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/13632-uk-high-street-shops-tonkso-set-3/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/13588-uk-high-street-shops-tonkso-set-1/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/29609-pez-restaurant-relots/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/14249-uk-retail-park-pack-1/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/14288-uk-retail-park-pack-2/
Skyscrapers don't usually come in packs due to their size. Typically needed to be downloaded individually. NDEX do the best skyscrapers I think. Look above for a link to their stuff.

Residential Packs

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11503-rls-cottages/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11518-rls-mobile-homes/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11239-rls-small-homes/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11125-rls-suburban-townhomes/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11124-rls-suburban-condos/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4241-brownstone-apartments/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4240-baltimore-sweel-front-town-homes/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4200-bsc-evening-town-homes/

Transport

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/17670-roadtop-mass-transit-v3-installers/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21570-underground-car-park/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/26114-roadside-parking-lots-pack/

Education/Fire/Police etc

Best to search those and pick the ones you like. There's so many to chose form depending on your fancy.

Learn to use simdevotion and it's power search. It's a pain to sign up but not everything is on simtropolis and it does have some better choice in some areas. Plus it has a file tracker so you know if you have downloaded something.

The list above is a nice little starter but it doesn't even put a small dent on the PC mod files goons can download :smug:. gently caress MAC's

WRITE DOWN DEPENDENCY MODS.

E - If you downloaded my mod pack, don't bother getting any of these, you'll have them already.

Thanks! This is super helpful. One thing to note about the differences between PC and Mac mods is that if all the files are installed in a .exe, it just means you have to run it through WINE to make it work, so modding on a Mac isn't nearly as bad as it probably was 10 years ago.

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!

Kazinsal posted:

Neat stuff, unfortunately the free version can't do planar projections, just spherical, which would fish-eye the edges of the image. :(

I -think- this one can though, and it's freeware: http://hugin.sourceforge.net/

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Added this to the above post.

http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_search_00.php - Search under creator for mattb325

Guy does some fantastic stuff. Totally forgot him but his stuff is mostly on devotion

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
It seems CAM has a specific MAC download that is different to the PC version...welp

http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1009

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Tai posted:

It seems CAM has a specific MAC download that is different to the PC version...welp

http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1009

Yup, that's what I got and it's working fine now. I'm in the process of downloading the starter pack CAMeLOTs from the CAM wiki as well as placing about 40 parks around town and so far both cities have gone from ~221k to ~300k :dance:

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012
Looks like another binge week on this is coming around.

I've always played vanilla but I think ill do some mods finally.

Tai, is there some sort of process to get your mod pack? the link in the OP asks for a keycode I think?

edit: nvm I found a link two pages back it would seem. Downloading now.

SpaceCadetBob fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jan 13, 2015

Subyng
May 4, 2013
Downloaded the Old Fasioned Pack and it's causing the game to crash whenever I load into a map from region view. I deleted the terrainmods folder cause I am running in software rendering mode. What might the problem be?? I just plopped everything in my Plugins folder.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Are you a mac user? Probably going to need to add to the OP that OF 3.0 and my pack are too large for MAC users and someone's going to need to man up and make a mid pack lite for the third world :)

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

SpaceCadetBob posted:

Looks like another binge week on this is coming around.

I've always played vanilla but I think ill do some mods finally.

Tai, is there some sort of process to get your mod pack? the link in the OP asks for a keycode I think?

edit: nvm I found a link two pages back it would seem. Downloading now.

Remember to post brown boxes along with the in game name of what it is so I can polish off that last 0.1% of glitches!

Subyng
May 4, 2013
Nope, running this on a Surface Pro 3, Windows 8.1

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012

Tai posted:

Remember to post brown boxes along with the in game name of what it is so I can polish off that last 0.1% of glitches!

Will do!

As a complete newb when it comes to modding video games. Do I need to do anything particular beside drop this in the steam plugins folder? Also Do I need any other mods to make this thing run?

I have the game through Steam, and am basically just following the OP step by step to get up and running.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

Subyng posted:

Nope, running this on a Surface Pro 3, Windows 8.1

Core set to 1 only? Core set to high priority? Plugins are in documents/sim city 4? Turned clouds/waves off? Not using a map that needs terrain mods since you've deleted it due to using SD?

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

SpaceCadetBob posted:

Will do!

As a complete newb when it comes to modding video games. Do I need to do anything particular beside drop this in the steam plugins folder? Also Do I need any other mods to make this thing run?

I have the game through Steam, and am basically just following the OP step by step to get up and running.

Drop plugins you downloaded into the plugin folder and play.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

100 new posts in like the last day, I was hoping SimCity 5 had been announced. :(

Supraluminal
Feb 17, 2012

ExtraNoise posted:

100 new posts in like the last day, I was hoping SimCity 5 had been announced. :(

Uhh, you know that SimCity 5 was al---

Actually, yeah, that would be cool.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



I'll begin to compile mods that work with Aspyrs OSX release of SC4. The trick will be the CAMeLOTs but it'll be worth it in the end.

edit: I may just end up buying SC4 on Steam since it seems that it has significantly fewer issues than Aspyr's version, which would make it able to use the OF and Tai's pack (at least, I believe so). Also, total bummer than I missed the sale on it :(

Until it goes on sale again, I'll compile what I can for the Aspyr release users since that's what I'll be using too.

Edit 2: I read some conflicting things about the Steam vs Aspyr so I guess they may both have the too many file bug. We shall see.

FAT32 SHAMER fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jan 14, 2015

Subyng
May 4, 2013

Tai posted:

Core set to 1 only? Core set to high priority? Plugins are in documents/sim city 4? Turned clouds/waves off? Not using a map that needs terrain mods since you've deleted it due to using SD?

Deleted the ENTIRE terrain folder and that fixed it.

Also do you know if the NAM/RHW mod is up to date in OF 3.0?

I'm having trouble with RHW but all the tutorials on the web are out of date.

*PUNCH*
Jul 8, 2007
naked on the internet
Hello thread!

OP has been updated to include Tai's pack. If anyone's got some screenshots that show off the content Tai has added, please post them so I can add them to the OP as well!

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


Supraluminal posted:

Uhh, you know that SimCity 5 was al---

Actually, yeah, that would be cool.

5

CAM is real nice, you guys



edit: oh god attack of the clones how do I fix

New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jan 14, 2015

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



So uh, I downloaded these "starter CAMeLOTs" and now I have brown boxes everywhere. What the gently caress did I do wrong?

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



I'm a big dummy and didn't realise how many bloody dependancies there are. Do you have to put them all in the same folder as the lot files or can I stick them in a folder called Dependancies so I can be more organised?

FAT32 SHAMER fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Jan 14, 2015

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

I LIKE TO SMOKE WEE posted:

edit: oh god attack of the clones how do I fix



There's only one known cure! Download more buildings!

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


Tusen Takk posted:

I'm a big dummy and didn't realise how many bloody dependancies there are. Do you have to put them all in the same folder as the lot files or can I stick them in a folder called Dependancies so I can be more organised?

I too just discovered the download all dependences button :magical:



Edit: jesus loving christ what have you goons gotten me into


New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Jan 14, 2015

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Jesus loving christ, the whole dependancy thing wouldn't be too bad if not for the ridiculous amount of .exe's instead of just uploading a .zip of the .dats or whatever the gently caress type of file dependancies are.

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


Tusen Takk posted:

Jesus loving christ, the whole dependancy thing wouldn't be too bad if not for the ridiculous amount of .exe's instead of just uploading a .zip of the .dats or whatever the gently caress type of file dependancies are.

Came here to post this :downs:

So uh, what are superior mac users supposed to do here? :v:

New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Jan 14, 2015

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



I LIKE TO SMOKE WEE posted:

Came here to post this :downs:

So uh, what are superior mac users supposed to do here? :v:

So I was using WineBottler to make individual .apps but then I ended up downloading a torrent for FileJuicer so I can just drop the .exe in and then it spits out all the poo poo that's bound up in it. I think you want the .dat files that get spit out but i'll be honest in that I don't feel like doing that right now after thinking I was all done when I extracted like 40 .exes on my lunch break.

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


Edit: Currently downloading like 6 gigs of poo poo to try and get this working juuuust right on OS X. Mac Bros Unite!

New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Jan 14, 2015

Anomalies
Mar 1, 2010

Tusen Takk posted:

I'm a big dummy and didn't realise how many bloody dependancies there are. Do you have to put them all in the same folder as the lot files or can I stick them in a folder called Dependancies so I can be more organised?

You can put downloads in whatever folders you want to, to keep things organized. The only exceptions are things that install to folders with names that starts with something along the lines of "Z__", those things have those names because they need to load last (at the very least I know NAM does this).

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FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Anomalies posted:

You can put downloads in whatever folders you want to, to keep things organized. The only exceptions are things that install to folders with names that starts with something along the lines of "Z__", those things have those names because they need to load last (at the very least I know NAM does this).

Okay, so CAM says that if you use the Crime Doesn't Pay Mod have it load after CAM... can I add x__ before CDP so it does or will that gently caress everything

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