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Top Hats Monthly posted:Ohio State Buckeyes 31 Minnesota Golden Gophers 24. The gophers are somewhere between Oregon and Alabama.
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Great White Hope posted:If Cardale goes (which I think would be crazy but whatever everything about him is pretty crazy and he probably can't count on Barrett getting broken again) the Browns better take him because it's not like they're going to do anything useful with those draft picks anyways. They might as well just try to field the Buckeyes and hope it works. Being a funny, well-liked Matt Cassel ain't a bad career path
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RumbleFish posted:As bad as we were in 2014, we're probably going to be just as bad and possibly worse in 2015. The defense should be much improved with more experience and an influx of talent, but QB is a huge, scary question mark and thus it'll likely be the offense's turn to be useless. Our schedule is pretty rough, too. This is literally the saddest day of the year... The longest period of time before more college football  pillsburysoldier posted:he's really considering declaring too He didn't come to play school, after all... Honestly why risk sitting on the bench all next season? J.T. is the better player imo, and assuming he's healthy, he'll be the starter. So yeah, go get paid. Scarf fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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I wouldn't touch him before like the 5th or 6th round, but Barrett is a better overall QB and Jones stock isn't going to get higher than it is right now sitting on the bench, so leaving might not be a horrible idea. He'd get a shot at the NFL even if he sat next year now, but might as well strike while the iron is as hot as it's probably going to get.
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Zoran posted:Yeah, I really liked listening to them talk, but I didn't need the view of their talking heads to be twice as large as the game itself. We tried to experience the MEGACAST the best we could:  I was going to bring out another TV as a fourth screen but I don't think my poor internet could handle all the traffic. If only I had a better cable package to get News and Classic. 
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Scarf posted:Is it too soon to start talking about bbq again? Yes and also who cares
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Zoran posted:The Big 12 is not allowed to have a conference championship game. You are correct. They need to add quality teams and not be so biased towards Texas and Oklahoma, because if they did they would be in a much better place.
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MourningView posted:I wouldn't touch him before like the 5th or 6th round, but Barrett is a better overall QB and Jones stock isn't going to get higher than it is right now sitting on the bench, so leaving might not be a horrible idea. He'd get a shot at the NFL even if he sat next year now, but might as well strike while the iron is as hot as it's probably going to get. Yeah, plus he just had a kid. He should definitely put his name in for NFL GM feedback and see what it says. If he can get drafted then he should go, because JT is going to be the starter next year. I'll just hope he goes someplace with a good QB coach.
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Thoguh posted:No, because Ohio State got in over TCU. Based on resumes prior to the start of the playoff there was no excuse to include Ohio State over TCU, the committee only included them because they were a bigger name school. The fact that Ohio State won doesn't change that. TCU still got screwed. I realize that and it's a huge part of why I find it funny. Osu had no business being there so it's hilarious they won and get to sop up the sec tears.
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Josh Lyman posted:You misread. The Megacast only added 0.4 to the main broadcasts 18.5. Yeah, it was poorly worded. However, a .4 share on networks like ESPNU and ESPN Classic is probably still more than those normally get and the cost of talking heads in a studio is so minimal it's likely still worth it.
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Great White Hope posted:If Cardale goes (which I think would be crazy but whatever everything about him is pretty crazy and he probably can't count on Barrett getting broken again) the Browns better take him because it's not like they're going to do anything useful with those draft picks anyways. They might as well just try to field the Buckeyes and hope it works. Always take the hype QB and hope for new season ticket sales based on it. Not the worst strategy a franchise has tried.
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Eltoasto posted:Yeah, plus he just had a kid. He should definitely put his name in for NFL GM feedback and see what it says. If he can get drafted then he should go, because JT is going to be the starter next year. I'll just hope he goes someplace with a good QB coach. I'm glad everyone here seems to realize Barrett is better, talking to friends they're all convinced that Jones is the best QB on that team and will be a first rounder or something, and it is baffling. Barrett was so good this year, and is so far ahead of Jones as a passer, even if he might not have the same raw talent. There is a reason he won the job easily in camp. Three games where Jones didn't even have to do a whole lot beyond hand off throws some (admittedly impressive) bombs to keep the defense honest and everyone forgets that.
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Okay, so, I need something explained to me. I checked out of giving a poo poo about college ball for a couple years, right around when Tressel got run out of his coaching job at OSU. I live in Detroit now, and I've got a bunch of Michigan homers in my facebook feed who have, on and off, talked like Tressel should be in prison and it was especially bad yesterday when he was spotted on the field at the game. Can someone explain to me what Tressel did and why it was so heinous? My shaky understanding of it is that some players traded some rings for tattoos? And that's supposed to be bad for reasons? And apparently the saintly warrior-scholars at Michigan would never stoop to such moral lows?
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I was impressed with OSU last night. I must say that to see them beat Alabama and then Oregon the way they did they definitely deserved to win this year. Wouldn't have thought it after the Vtech game (which was really fun to watch!) but to take a third string QB on the big stage and win this way is really a great story. Too bad I don't really like OSU or Urban Meyer and really wanted Oregon to win.
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Thoguh posted:No, because Ohio State got in over TCU. Based on resumes prior to the start of the playoff there was no excuse to include Ohio State over TCU, the committee only included them because they were a bigger name school. The fact that Ohio State won doesn't change that. TCU still got screwed. Baylor would have gotten in over TCU. It makes a better storyline if after the fact you pick the co-champ who blows their bowl opponent out of the water, but Baylor was ranked higher and had the head to head win over TCU. Baylor also happened to go on to lose against Michigan State.
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MourningView posted:I'm glad everyone here seems to realize Barrett is better, talking to friends they're all convinced that Jones is the best QB on that team and will be a first rounder or something, and it is baffling. Barrett was so good this year, and is so far ahead of Jones as a passer, even if he might not have the same raw talent. There is a reason he won the job easily in camp. Barrett is really, really awesome and I think he's better than Jones but it's not really out there to look at a guy who just led your team (with a lot of help from the defense stepping up and Zeke going nuts admittedly, but Cardale was very good aside from his fumble) to 3 wins of that caliber and go "He's The Man".
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Okay, so, I need something explained to me. I checked out of giving a poo poo about college ball for a couple years, right around when Tressel got run out of his coaching job at OSU. I live in Detroit now, and I've got a bunch of Michigan homers in my facebook feed who have, on and off, talked like Tressel should be in prison and it was especially bad yesterday when he was spotted on the field at the game. Can someone explain to me what Tressel did and why it was so heinous? My shaky understanding of it is that some players traded some rings for tattoos? And that's supposed to be bad for reasons? And apparently the saintly warrior-scholars at Michigan would never stoop to such moral lows? There was a lot of stuff beyond the tattoo thing and he'd had issues with the NCAA rules going all the way back to his days as a I-AA coach, but I don't think there was anything more serious than that. e: yeah like Dogg said Michigan fans mostly hate him because he completely owned Michigan like no coach ever had before. MourningView fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Bigass Moth posted:I realize that and it's a huge part of why I find it funny. Osu had no business being there so it's hilarious they won and get to sop up the sec tears. Even the BCS rankings had Ohio State at 4. So yes they had every business being in it.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Okay, so, I need something explained to me. I checked out of giving a poo poo about college ball for a couple years, right around when Tressel got run out of his coaching job at OSU. I live in Detroit now, and I've got a bunch of Michigan homers in my facebook feed who have, on and off, talked like Tressel should be in prison and it was especially bad yesterday when he was spotted on the field at the game. Can someone explain to me what Tressel did and why it was so heinous? My shaky understanding of it is that some players traded some rings for tattoos? And that's supposed to be bad for reasons? And apparently the saintly warrior-scholars at Michigan would never stoop to such moral lows? He brutally murdered Michigan's football program for years.
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Great White Hope posted:Barrett is really, really awesome and I think he's better than Jones but it's not really out there to look at a guy who just led your team (with a lot of help from the defense stepping up and Zeke going nuts admittedly, but Cardale was very good aside from his fumble) to 3 wins of that caliber and go "He's The Man". Eh, it's three games where their running game was completely unstoppable. I guess I don't see how that outweighs what Barrett did all season. Jones never had to win a game with his arm. Like the talent is definitely there but they don't seem to be all that close as passers to me. He's been at OSU for awhile now so it's not like the coaches had no idea what they had. They went with Barrett for a reason. Like I get it, but people always overreact to what they just saw.
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Detroit_Dogg posted:He brutally murdered Michigan's football program for years. Which was delicious. I had a habit of calling my mother-in-law, a Michigan alum and the homerist of Michigan homers, after every OSU victory over Michigan and singing Fight the Team to her. I invited her to do the same to me with Victors at her first opportunity, but sadly it never came.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Okay, so, I need something explained to me. I checked out of giving a poo poo about college ball for a couple years, right around when Tressel got run out of his coaching job at OSU. I live in Detroit now, and I've got a bunch of Michigan homers in my facebook feed who have, on and off, talked like Tressel should be in prison and it was especially bad yesterday when he was spotted on the field at the game. Can someone explain to me what Tressel did and why it was so heinous? My shaky understanding of it is that some players traded some rings for tattoos? And that's supposed to be bad for reasons? And apparently the saintly warrior-scholars at Michigan would never stoop to such moral lows? Eight players sold memorabilia for cash and tattoos, and one player got a discounted car loan. Total value of 14 grand split among the 8 players. The NCAA's judgement was that Tressel knew of it and didn't inform them of the violations. That's why they hit him so hard with the 5 years show cause, it's always the cover up and not the crime with the NCAA. And those Michigan fans can shut the gently caress up because they straight up paid the Fab Five to come to Michigan.
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Then wrote them letters calling them niggers and thugs the michigan difference
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MourningView posted:Eh, it's three games where their running game was completely unstoppable. I guess I don't see how that outweighs what Barrett did all season. Jones never had to win a game with his arm. Like the talent is definitely there but they don't seem to be all that close as passers to me. He's been at OSU for awhile now so it's not like the coaches had no idea what they had. They went with Barrett for a reason. Like I get it, but people always overreact to what they just saw. Well yeah people are obviously overreacting to what they just saw. That's pretty much how sports are. I mean, last year there were fans of multiple teams clamoring for Josh McCown to start for their NFL team. If there's anything fans love, it's the backup QB and the hot hand. Jones is both, no matter what Barrett did all year that lots of people outside of Ohio high on Jones probably didn't see.
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Eltoasto posted:Eight players sold memorabilia for cash and tattoos, and one player got a discounted car loan. Total value of 14 grand split among the 8 players. The NCAA's judgement was that Tressel knew of it and didn't inform them of the violations. That's why they hit him so hard with the 5 years show cause, it's always the cover up and not the crime with the NCAA. And those Michigan fans can shut the gently caress up because they straight up paid the Fab Five to come to Michigan. That's a little clearer. I just don't understand why it was a big deal that players traded their own personal belongings for stuff. Is that some dumb NCAA "Virtuous warrior-scholars/love of the game/" bullshit? And, yeah. gently caress Michigan and Michigan fans for being hypocritical assholes and for having zero perspective. Detroit_Dogg posted:Then wrote them letters calling them niggers and thugs
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Cardale Jones' future is being the answer to a Trivial Pursuit question. What is the name of the Ohio State University quarterback spared humiliation at hands of TCU?
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:That's a little clearer. I just don't understand why it was a big deal that players traded their own personal belongings for stuff. Is that some dumb NCAA "Virtuous warrior-scholars/love of the game/" bullshit? Yes. They don't want players profiting off their status as athletes while they're in school, which is of course incredibly silly given how much the schools make off of them, but there you go. I just lit the det signal but oh well.
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Thermos H Christ posted:I guess I'm theoretically looking forward to next season but having the first game of the season on the road against ND could be very ugly. Might be a contender for all time TFF meteor game though. Look on the bright side, everyone is going to be cheering for Texas for once.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Who, the Fab Five? Jesus, I'd never heard that before. Michigan Difference indeed. It was in the very very good Fab Five 30 for 30, some people even signed the letters with their names and graduation years.
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MourningView posted:Yes. They don't want players profiting off their status as athletes while they're in school, which is of course incredibly silly given how much the schools make off of them, but there you go. It was also before the serious talk about paying athletes really got started, so at the time it was a bigger scandal than people view it as today. Great White Hope posted:Barrett is really, really awesome and I think he's better than Jones but it's not really out there to look at a guy who just led your team (with a lot of help from the defense stepping up and Zeke going nuts admittedly, but Cardale was very good aside from his fumble) to 3 wins of that caliber and go "He's The Man". Yeah, Zeke had something like 900 yards in the last four games, setting records in the last three, which is just madness. You can't really count on that over a whole season.
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MourningView posted:Tennessee looks like they could be really good with all the young guys they were playing, but that is almost certainly me reading way too much into them crushing an Iowa team that had imploded before they even got to Florida. They were the youngest team in the nation I think. MourningView posted:Yes. They don't want players profiting off their status as athletes while they're in school, which is of course incredibly silly given how much the schools make off of them, but there you go. they are paid with an education
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