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Multiplayer FPS map design took a helluva dive. Quake goddamn 1. Didn't it also have spawnpoints across all SP maps so you could reliably deathmatch every single one, that's what I remember from the lanparties. Not to mention its great MP maps that were so simple but so effective (yeah no memory of Duke3D despite the high school hours wasted in that). Quake 2, less of the same but absolutely great. Quake 3 far less of that same and instead arena-like on purpose, entirely on purpose, small but flowing well and feeling so good. Then take the MW3 map packs and despair. Don't know Ghosts and AW MP maps well enough to really dissect them like that but MW3's the poopiest poo and Destiny's MP maps I don't rank high either, wishing they had gone more Halo with them, less "we recycled this from scrapped/DLC PvE material". I'd buy a PS4 port of Quake 1. PS3 and Vita just got Duke 3D via PS+ and it's so good.
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I really liked destiny, thought it was a good game, but I played until I had done all the content at level 20, and turned it off. I didn't (and don't) have the urge to go back and grind for better gear to take on more challenges. I think if you quit before it feels like you are logging in just to do the daily events or w/e it's a good game.
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Oxxidation posted:It's not great. I don't like Destiny either but I literally cannot think of a game with better FPS gameplay. Destiny nailed it. Those who say 'it's not great' are in denial. It's like driving a Ferrari and saying it's like a Clio.
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MrLonghair posted:Multiplayer FPS map design took a helluva dive. Quake goddamn 1. Didn't it also have spawnpoints across all SP maps so you could reliably deathmatch every single one, that's what I remember from the lanparties. Not to mention its great MP maps that were so simple but so effective (yeah no memory of Duke3D despite the high school hours wasted in that). Quake 2, less of the same but absolutely great. Quake 3 far less of that same and instead arena-like on purpose, entirely on purpose, small but flowing well and feeling so good. Quake 1's maps were so good that the level select start map is better than nearly any map I've played in the past decade.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:I don't like Destiny either but I literally cannot think of a game with better FPS gameplay. Destiny nailed it. Those who say 'it's not great' are in denial. It's not great. See: every PC FPS
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It's like driving a Ferrari with 10mph limiter to make your commute longer.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:It's not great. See: every PC FPS The old mouse and keyboard chestnut ey The only decent FPS on PC is Doom and that doesn't even use much beyond arrow keys and spacebar.
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Jan 13, 2015 20:44
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Keyboard and mouse is actually a very bad control scheme for shooters. It makes them too easy.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:I don't like Destiny either but I literally cannot think of a game with better FPS gameplay. It's on a par with borderlands. I have hopes for Planetside, though.
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ratbert90 posted:Hey guys, Assassins Creed Unity is actually pretty good, and the framerate outside of gigantic crowds isn't bad either. Except for engrams, gently caress those things. I am about to platinum it and I really enjoyed it. uh I'm on the other end of the spectrum here and hate the game so cool for you I guess?
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Jan 13, 2015 20:55
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Takoluka posted:How is Z2 Chaos? I'm looking forward to the Western release of Z. If you check out the Live from Playstation app ever, there's usually one or two people streaming it. Just sort by game and scroll all the way to the bottom where the Japanese games are and look for a Z mixed in. I had some Japanese guy playing ROTK Online in the background the other day for like an hour while I played Duke3D on Vita. It was, oddly soothing.
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I wasn't talking about controls, anyway, more about gun-feel, mobility, and encounters. So, even on consoles: Metro has better FPS gameplay. Wolfenstein has better FPS gameplay. Hell, Goldeneye 64 had better FPS gameplay
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:I don't like Destiny either but I literally cannot think of a game with better FPS gameplay. Destiny nailed it. Those who say 'it's not great' are in denial. Far Cry 4 and even Wolfenstein managed to be at least interesting with the guns which is more than I could probably say for Destiny
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Jan 13, 2015 21:06
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Hell, Goldeneye 64 had better FPS gameplay It really didn't. Destiny is probably my favorite co-op MP game ever, though only because of the Raids. The general feel of Mass Effect 3 multi is better.
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the raids are garbage just hang out with your friends playing anything else.StabMasterArson posted:Far Cry 4 and even Wolfenstein managed to be at least interesting with the guns which is more than I could probably say for Destiny but but far cry 4's guns have significant recoil and wolfenstein doesn't even snap to target when you go ads so how can you even compare them to baby's first shooter, destiny where the shooting feels so good (Because it is easy as pissing your pants)
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Jan 13, 2015 21:55
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Wolfenstein isn't very good. It's like the textbook 7/10.
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Aphrodite posted:Wolfenstein isn't very good. lies. sounds like a homeschool textbook
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:I don't like Destiny either but I literally cannot think of a game with better FPS gameplay. Destiny nailed it. Those who say 'it's not great' are in denial.
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Jan 13, 2015 22:01
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Honestly, FPSs need to have a huge, paradigm altering, thing happen for me to give half a poo poo about the genre. A constant stream of FPSs for 15 years has left the genre, at it's best, dull and derivative.
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What is the final size of ff14 when its fully installed on ps4?
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Herr Direktor posted:What is the final size of ff14 when its fully installed on ps4? 38.22 GB
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Aphrodite posted:Wolfenstein isn't very good. It's actually really good
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The Grimace posted:38.22 GB Jesus. Thank you, Couldn't find a straight answer anywhere.
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Aphrodite posted:Keyboard and mouse is actually a very bad control scheme for shooters. It makes them too easy. Please be real. LOL
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Vintersorg posted:Please be real. LOL I actually thought this was one of the Xbox threads because of how stupid the discussion was.
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Yahtzee named Wolfenstein as his #2 GOTY.  I'll give it a "Gamestop rental".
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I couldn't even muster up the power to play through the game on the separate path. I was also annoyed at all the loving times they make you use the cutting laser.
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Herr Direktor posted:Jesus. Thank you, Couldn't find a straight answer anywhere. Note that this seems to be mostly reserved space, the game itself is only a fraction of that, or at least the download is.
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univbee posted:Note that this seems to be mostly reserved space, the game itself is only a fraction of that, or at least the download is.
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My HDMI port on my HDTV just died. I tested my PS4 on a roomates tv and it is fine. I also tested my Xbone. gently caress 
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homeless snail posted:The initial download is under 10GB I think, but then there's a pretty substantial patching process. Right, it's just I think the game is designed to peak with 39 gigs of space to work with currently (although I'm sure they'll expand if needed), my point was more that it's not a 39 gig download (which tends to be what puts people off).
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precision posted:Yahtzee named Wolfenstein as his #2 GOTY. Wolfenstein is the best game I played this year, although it was real close with Shadows of Mordor.
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I dig the way that PSNow games are integrated into the dashboard:  I played ICO for a bit and was reasonably impressed. Even on my relatively slow download (10mb/s) it performed reasonably well. I'm not sure there's enough content for me to pay $20/mo (or even $15/mo), but if I was a person who had never owned a PS3 it might be worth it. I don't know why, but I sort of assumed it would pick up my save files thar were uploaded from the PS3. Oh well.
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Failboattootoot posted:Wolfenstein is the best game I played this year, although it was real close with Shadows of Mordor. Funny, that was his #1. I don't know what the best game I played this year was. Probably Inquisition, boringly enough. Or Ultimate Edition Tomb Raider or TLOU Remastered. Goddamn TLOU Remastered is so good.
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Everyone should buy Wolfenstein so Bethesda green lights more from that Dev studio, whatever that ends up being. It's such a good game.
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I'd kind of like to see them take a crack at Duke Nukem.
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Ya, too bad Randy pitchfork doesn't have enough taste to do something as obvious and brilliant as that
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Policenaut posted:I'd kind of like to see them take a crack at Duke Nukem. Duke Nukem with Wolfensteins surprisingly well told and progressive story would certainly be an interesting thing to see.
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EC posted:I dig the way that PSNow games are integrated into the dashboard: You might want to mind your real name there dude.
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Herr Direktor posted:Jesus. Thank you, Couldn't find a straight answer anywhere. It's cool. I actually had the game up already, so it was a matter of pressing the PS button and checking the file's info. 
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