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Lottery winnings have to be spent frivolously, right? That's like a rule. I just backed Shadowrun: Hong Kong at the messenger bag tier. Goodbye Christmas scratch-off ticket money.
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Mimetic posted:Goodbye Christmas scratch-off ticket money. new thread title pls
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Jan 14, 2015 00:24
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I'm just glad they included the actual Pen & Paper game as a (reasonable priced) tier reward this time around. Seriously debating going for it even though the idea of Shadowrun is better than the execution (especially this edition.)
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Jan 14, 2015 01:38
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Just a shame the Drift Stage trailer didn't use the best song off their soundtrack https://soundcloud.com/myroneofficial/exclusive-coup Though besides that it was exactly what a kickstarter video should be.
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Jan 14, 2015 02:37
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Kibayasu posted:Personally I'm waiting to see if some developers start a Patreon. That's only half a joke. Not gonna lie, I'm pretty sure I've seen some of these already.
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Jan 14, 2015 06:49
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The drift smoke from Drift Stage kinda bugs me. Feels way too chunky when it's close to the camera, the cars are nowhere near that jaggy. And then it dissolves into way too many pixels while it's dissipating. Other than that though, looks pretty rad.
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Jan 14, 2015 06:51
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senrath posted:Not gonna lie, I'm pretty sure I've seen some of these already. A bunch of porn games are making good money on there.
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Jan 14, 2015 07:30
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Byolante posted:If anything they should be the gold standard for kickstarter videogames for delivering what they promised and continuing to support the game post release multiple times. Yeah, beyond slightly slipping release dates (nowhere near what most kickstarters end up with) the Shadowrun kickstarter delivered in spades. I'm giving them twice as much this time, just as soon as more digital stuff gets added. Or I cave in and get that bag 
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Jan 14, 2015 08:35
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Moonman is a... procedural adventure game? quote:You play as a happy green moonman whose quest is to search for fragments of moons that are scattered around the world. The fragments may have been hidden in caves or tombs, ingested by large creatures, or hoarded by agoraphobic hermits. The game features:     Seems like a weirder, more game-y, metroidvania-like Terraria to me.
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Jan 14, 2015 14:59
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I mean that looks really cool and I'm willing to throw some money at a guy to follow his crazy dream but Estimated Delivery Date of May 2015 seems like one hell of a quick turn around. If he has that much of the game done a quick alpha would be great to release to show some good faith to kickstarters.
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Jan 14, 2015 15:10
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Kibayasu posted:Personally I'm waiting to see if some developers start a Patreon. That's only half a joke. These guys were the first high profile indies to do it as far as I know http://www.patreon.com/puppygames
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Jan 14, 2015 15:17
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Yodzilla posted:These guys were the first high profile indies to do it as far as I know http://www.patreon.com/puppygames The devs who were complaining in comment sections of gaming websites about their customers being unappreciative jerks who cost more money than they bring in, what a surprize 
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Jan 14, 2015 15:25
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Arnold of Soissons posted:The devs who were complaining in comment sections of gaming websites about their customers being unappreciative jerks who cost more money than they bring in, what a surprize Actually, they were pissed that their poo poo was getting pirated even though it was in the minor dollars region, and there was some bitching about the Humble Bundles they were in; the 'unappreciative jerks' was reserved for the number of fucks that replied to them stating that they'd pirate them into the ground. I've always enjoyed the Puppy games output, and kinda see their point, but they should have considered Humble Bundle more. I'm with them on the majority of the customers being unappreciative jerks. Social media is a loving curse. Edit: here's a post where they talk about development figures. Bear in mind that it's three people in Basingstoke, which is not really a Tech hotbed. - http://www.puppygames.net/blog/?p=1369 Hav fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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Jan 14, 2015 15:35
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Actually they were specifically bitching about people who had bought their games in bundles or with steam coupons (which were supposedly created against their wishes) who had paid less than a buck for the game but still expected technical support to make the games run He made such an rear end of himself that the banner saga guy started posting on a couple different sites "email me instead of keep posting publicly" He wasn't just complaining in a general sense, either, he was personally attacking people who tried to offer any other opinions at all, really. It was pretty entertaining. Their games are pretty bland and lovely, tho e: http://www.puppygames.net/blog/?p=1574 "Because you are worthless," an open letter to their customers from someone who wants to make sure I never buy anything from him again, apparently Arnold of Soissons fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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Jan 14, 2015 16:04
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Megazver posted:Moonman is a... procedural adventure game?
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Jan 14, 2015 16:23
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Arnold of Soissons posted:http://www.puppygames.net/blog/?p=1574 "Because you are worthless," an open letter to their customers from someone who wants to make sure I never buy anything from him again, apparently I read that and was reminded how it's always so easy to spot someone who's never had to work in the service industry.
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Jan 14, 2015 16:31
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Arnold of Soissons posted:e: http://www.puppygames.net/blog/?p=1574 "Because you are worthless," an open letter to their customers from someone who wants to make sure I never buy anything from him again, apparently quote:Some parts of the internet glory in the mob. 4chan exists, possibly, only as an outlet for the mob. Even mentioning 4chan is risky. It’s like standing in a city full of ravenous zombies, armed with a lowly fire axe, and shouting “BRAINS! HERE! GET ‘EM WHILE THEY’RE HOT!”. If too many zombies notice, you’re toast. They’ll silence you. So we don’t mention 4chan. For similar reasons we don’t mention /r/Games either. He says, mentioning both of them. What the gently caress? Man I liked puppygames' games, but they're not all that complicated either. Pretty much just some tower defense and robotron clones, although with a cool style. gently caress that guy. InShaneee posted:I read that and was reminded how it's always so easy to spot someone who's never had to work in the service industry. Yeah seriously, this guy doesn't know how good he has it. :| quote:Good old Phil is sitting pretty on a giant mound of cash the likes of which you will probably not even be able to comprehend, let alone earn in your lifetime. For every one of you that enjoyed denigrating him and thrilled at insulting him, there are now another thousand people who listen to every word he says. When he walks into the restaurant where you pitifully scrub the floor like a servile wretch in order to pay for DLC in DOTA2, you’ll call him sir.  This is some kinda Randroid insanity or something. loving plebs, stop buying my game on sales that I agreed to!
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Jan 14, 2015 16:45
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Zaphod42 posted:He says, mentioning both of them. phil was trolled into leaving the industry good example, chum
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Jan 14, 2015 17:48
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Yeah, I actually like Puppy's games as time killers on my netbook, but I don't think I'm gonna buy anymore of their stuff now. They seem like asses.
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Jan 14, 2015 17:51
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No see it was meant to be read in a sarcastic tone of voice.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:05
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Yeah, I actually like Puppy's games as time killers on my netbook, but I don't think I'm gonna buy anymore of their stuff now. They seem like asses. 90% of the people you meet will sound like asses, and I tend to give them a pass on the invective they receive from the vocal minority, which is loving acrimonious, and the relatively low income level those guys are inhabiting. Seriously, I advise everyone I know to stay away from games programming, even on an indie basis, because the consumers _are_ trash. Zaphod42 posted:Yeah seriously, this guy doesn't know how good he has it. :| I know, right. *working on games is so cherry* you should do it for free and slobber on the dick of every-single-customer who threw a dollar in the hat. gently caress that guy for having an opinion about the cesspool that is the internet. poo poo, indie developers are mostly doing this for love, and they get poo poo back; They're going to snap and snap without the benefit of PR. I don't know what level you're in programming, but you have to have faced the kind of mind-numbing stupidity that we all go through on a regular basis, it's just we bottle it up. Or rant on a blog. Or in IM. Puppygames posted:Firstly, gamers aren’t very nice people. Yes, you. You are not a very nice person. Statistically speaking. By which I mean, independent game developers get more nasty poo poo from gamers than they get praise. Right now you are preparing to lecture me about how I talk to customers, or how I deserve to be broke and unsucessful. If you’re feeling particularly sanctimonious you’ll tell me you’re never going to buy any of our games again. If you’re especially spiteful you’ll also tell me that you were about to buy one of our games (for a dollar! ho ho), but now you’re not going to. Irony bonus for that last few posts. The thing is that nobody is saying that you should throw in for anything; you should be able to buy whatever you want, but the loving insanity that populates youtube and any outlet that combines a voice with anonymity is poisonous to the extreme, and one of the reasons why people are backing off unmoderated outlets.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:15
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So Hav, what games have you worked on because I need to know what never to buy because to you I'm already trash.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:18
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quote:If you’re especially spiteful you’ll also tell me that you were about to buy one of our games (for a dollar! ho ho), but now you’re not going to.
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coding is only one small part of being your own games studio art is another small part dealing with the public is a fairly large part if you don't want to do all the parts needed then don't be your own game studio bc hi welcome to earth that's how it works, so either hire someone to do the bits you hate or accept it or do some other job
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Jan 14, 2015 18:27
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Megazver posted:Moonman is a... procedural adventure game? Cool, a retro pixel metroidvania roguelike.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:29
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Moonman looks incredibly similar to Starbound.
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Hav posted:I know, right. *working on games is so cherry* you should do it for free and slobber on the dick of every-single-customer who threw a dollar in the hat. gently caress that guy for having an opinion about the cesspool that is the internet.  Seriously though gently caress you Hav, you're a giant douche. There are ways to say "the youtube community and anonymous comments in general are toxic" without berating the reader for sucking dick. Tracula posted:So Hav, what games have you worked on because I need to know what never to buy because to you I'm already trash.
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Hav posted:Seriously, I advise everyone I know to stay away from games programming, even on an indie basis, because the consumers _are_ trash. quote:poo poo, indie developers are mostly doing this for love 
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BexGu posted:I mean that looks really cool and I'm willing to throw some money at a guy to follow his crazy dream but Estimated Delivery Date of May 2015 seems like one hell of a quick turn around. If he has that much of the game done a quick alpha would be great to release to show some good faith to kickstarters.
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Zaphod42 posted:There are ways to say "the youtube community and anonymous comments in general are toxic" without berating the reader for sucking dick. Yeah, and you cherry-picked a line from a post that was suggesting just that, and I went the shock route. My wife will agree with you on the giant douche comment, and quite frankly I am. But please re-read that post in it's entirety, then come back and tell me which bits were flat out wrong; the knee-jerking is part of the issue. The other is the fake outrage from someone throwing shade on your 'community'. Arnold of Soissons posted:dealing with the public is a fairly large part Actually, it isn't. That's a conceit supplied by the illusion of access because modern advertising works through interviews and the hype machine, but THAT'S THE POINT OF THE POST. Arnold of Soissons posted:do some other job And some of them are. This means that Indie, or the small studies that don't want to set up a sockpuppet 'PR' that routes poo poo to /dev/null are going to disappear because god forbid that anyone have an opinion that is unpopular. I'll bail and you can call me names, because it's drifting a bit and you're all worthless. edit: The White Dragon posted:The other day, I finally got my very first creepy hateful googlestalker who was incredibly angry that I made a game where you save a princess! I got death threats during the 1990s when I was running some sections on Compuserve and this was way before anyone was taking that poo poo seriously, Since then I've assiduously avoided any form of spotlight because it's simply not worth exposing yourself to the kind of anonymized hate that's out there, or even the moderate people that want to pick holes in what you're doing. Critique is fine, but slanging feces around isn't. The White Dragon posted:Uh, where'd you hear that? I do it because if I don't, then it's back to making three dollars a day in concierge slavery with racist hotel owner bosses for me So, you work for EA? Hav fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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Hav posted:I'll bail and you can call me names, because it's drifting a bit and you're all worthless. 
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The White Dragon posted:The other day, I finally got my very first creepy hateful googlestalker who was incredibly angry that I made a game where you save a princess! Oh man you gotta post that poo poo. How long did it take to get that email? Zereth posted:I'm guessing he's drastically underestimating the time he's going to need rather than being at a stage of completion that it's a realistic goal. It was naive of me to think that a dude, even if he spent two years working on the game, might have an realistic end goal date. Predicting software projects timelines is the biggest voodoo in any environment.
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Suspicious Dish posted:Cool, a retro pixel metroidvania roguelike. 
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I actually bought Titan Attacks straight from PuppyGames before it even got a Steam release because I wanted to play it on my Linux machine, but please, keep ranting about how I'm a leecher who only threw a dollar at them.
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BexGu posted:Oh man you gotta post that poo poo. How long did it take to get that email? Took a year of sitting on Greenlight and I guess some nutjob just saw something he didn't like. He must've jumped through some fuckin' hoops, though, because he contacted me at my personal email rather than the support one I used to develop that game. It actually wasn't that interesting and it sounded like he was reading off a checklist of "this is why games where you save damsels is bad" and while he sent four or five in the space of a few hours asking why I wasn't engaging in a rhetoric with him, I was sleeping at the time I told my bros and they were unanimous in saying, "nah dude that poo poo's radioactive waste, don't even reply to it," and I guess the guy wasn't that dedicated to his crusade because he gave up before I even checked the first mail he sent. But that got me to drop the hammer on buying some votes to finally get out, and now that we're in the top ten, I guess it was a good fire to have lit under my rear end. Fur20 fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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The White Dragon posted:I told my bros and they were unanimous in saying, "nah dude that poo poo's radioactive waste, don't even reply to it," and I guess the guy wasn't that dedicated to his crusade because he gave up before I even checked the first mail he sent. But that got me to drop the hammer on buying some votes to finally get out, and now that we're in the top ten, I guess it was a good fire to have lit under my rear end. I knew that votes can get bought on Greenlight, but I'm curious how much it costs. (Namely, at what point it becomes competitive with negotiating directly with Valve to do a non-Greenlight launch.)
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Hav posted:I got death threats during the 1990s when I was running some sections on Compuserve and this was way before anyone was taking that poo poo seriously, Since then I've assiduously avoided any form of spotlight because it's simply not worth exposing yourself to the kind of anonymized hate that's out there, or even the moderate people that want to pick holes in what you're doing. Critique is fine, but slanging feces around isn't. This is true of anybody who goes on the internet and has any bit of power or celebrity. It is the very nature of anonymous comments. It has NOTHING to do with videogames. Everybody gets this. Any content creator. Any celebrity. Any politician. Any comedian. ANYBODY. Get the gently caress over it. If you don't like it, don't read twitter and don't have a public email. I'm sorry but if you think handling PR well or hiring somebody to handle your PR is outrageous for a business, you're crazy. But you're also a self-described douche so... yeah. Hav posted:I'll bail and you can call me names, because it's drifting a bit and you're all worthless.  He says, but still goes ahead and edits a few more comment replies and jabs in there...A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I actually bought Titan Attacks straight from PuppyGames before it even got a Steam release because I wanted to play it on my Linux machine, but please, keep ranting about how I'm a leecher who only threw a dollar at them. I got a humble bundle with one of their games in it as a birthday gift. I liked it so much I went and bought it again for somebody else, as a gift. Then I bought Ultratron full price because I liked Titan and wanted to support the indie devs, and I even recommended it to several other goons. But apparently I am a parasite. Thanks for the education, Andrew Ryan. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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ullerrm posted:I knew that votes can get bought on Greenlight, but I'm curious how much it costs. (Namely, at what point it becomes competitive with negotiating directly with Valve to do a non-Greenlight launch.) I guess it kinda depends on the venue, but the place I went was 100GBP plus some regkeys for an audience that doesn't buy games they don't get for free anyway.
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