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Rorus Raz posted:Is this the one Latuff entered? Yes, he got second prize. It was a contest for cartoons about the Holocaust, then later two Israeli artists arranged a more general antisemitic cartoon contest. 
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Where do I need to go to get the "Absurdly Racist" ClipArt package for Microsoft Word 2003? Alternatively: Is it a picture of two Arab caricatures or is it the messed up clay vase from the end of Ghost?
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Grapplejack posted:Let's see how Henry is doing
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Grey Fox posted:He's calling for the internment of all Muslims in the US, right? That's what this garbage is saying in a terribly roundabout way, isn't it? Yes. It also relies on the reader viewing the internment of Japanese in the US as a good thing.
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Angular Cyrus posted:Yes, he got second prize. It was a contest for cartoons about the Holocaust, then later two Israeli artists arranged a more general antisemitic cartoon contest. Some hosed up poo poo in those holocaust cartoons.
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Cat Mattress posted:Art Spiegelman already did that one. As obnoxious as their Bush-fluffing neocon sympathies were, I liked the Cox & Forkum entry into that contest that hid Ahmadinejad's face in Hitler's.
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Grapplejack posted:Let's see how Henry is doing I rode by 3 public playgrounds to get to work today  Next cartoon: complains about Are Tax Dollars being used for public parks in the city. By the way, why do so many of his dialogues end in an asterisk, and there's no matching citation at the bottom 
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alnilam posted:I rode by 3 public playgrounds to get to work today I wondered the same thing and figured that he puts the citation outside of the image and the poster didn't include them like they would the Dry Bones entries. Either that or it's his way of indicating to the reader that the comic was written by an rear end in a top hat.
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Gravel Gravy posted:I wondered the same thing and figured that he puts the citation outside of the image and the poster didn't include them like they would the Dry Bones entries. Yeah, the comments are on the website. They were included here a couple of times, but I assume the poster stopped because they were just as useless and stupid as the rest of the comic.
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T-man posted:"Yes, at least four." It is noted these cartoonists aren't Rall or Muir.
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loquacius posted:Welp, best do nothing at all then, oh wait that's bad too. Welp, best tear down our entire country because otherwise we might get our humanitarian aid wrong. Or, you know, just get better at it. All I'm saying is that it's understandable that some people might not consider the US military showing up in the wake of a disaster as an unambiguously good thing.
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"Just get better at it" is really cunning insight. I am genuinely curious as to what people expect the United States to do about Boko Haram or ebola or anything that won't just piss everyone off.
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 that "There is something between full-scale military intervention and sitting around twiddling our thumbs" is an idea that is at all controversial.Obviously it's extremely difficult to sort out what to do with the war torn mess that colonialism left behind, if the solution were as easy as a sentence that can be posted in a political cartoon thread, someone would have done it. The pessimistic "well, since we shouldn't invade, why are we so keen to bring it up?" is just loving bizarre.
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I wasn't even posing that question as a "well we got bombs or nothing, you choose" sort of false dichotomy. I'm really honestly curious as to how the US is supposed to intervene in all these problems around the world but not in a way that could be interpreted as world policing. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.
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Couple of pages back, but I'm surprised no-one translated this, if only for the record. "Why does an artist draw? To get a reaction. If you don't get letters, you're a bad cartoonist. If you get super-positive letters, you're a quite good cartoonist. If you get threats, you're a strong cartoonist. If you get sad letters*, you're not a cartoonist anymore. You've crossed the line when you besmirch the dignity of any person." tldr "cartoonists aren't supposed to hurt people's feelings". *I think this bit got lost in translation, because it literally means "teardrop letters", which isn't an idiom I'm familiar with in either French or English. Maybe it's Russian.
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RyokoTK posted:I wasn't even posing that question as a "well we got bombs or nothing, you choose" sort of false dichotomy. I'm really honestly curious as to how the US is supposed to intervene in all these problems around the world but not in a way that could be interpreted as world policing. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. Fully and immediately implement all principles and practices of Social Justice. That is what must be done, and is not being done.
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RyokoTK posted:I wasn't even posing that question as a "well we got bombs or nothing, you choose" sort of false dichotomy. I'm really honestly curious as to how the US is supposed to intervene in all these problems around the world but not in a way that could be interpreted as world policing. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. I think the answer is more complicated than a single paragraph and probably even more than a thread with multiple pages of discussion on the topic, and it has to take into account a whole host of other international players, personally, but I do think that when villages are massacred en masse, a response that isn't "That kind of thing happens all the time there, though? Let's get back to Charlie"(which people seem fine to talk about without proposing "solutions") is an okay, tiny first step.
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carry on then posted:Fully and immediately implement all principles and practices of Social Justice. Actually, my question was about ethics in video game journalism.
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RyokoTK posted:"Just get better at it" is really cunning insight. I am genuinely curious as to what people expect the United States to do about Boko Haram or ebola or anything that won't just piss everyone off. Pretty sure the Mexicans managed to help out in Haiti without locking down the capital and pissing everyone off but yeah there are probably a range of options between nothing at all and temporary military annexation. As Bicyclops has pointed out I don't think this thread has the kind of experts that could give a worthwhile answer to what should be done for every individual foreign aid situation but it probably involves cooperating with existing aid and government organisations at the very least.
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Hitler B. Natural posted:
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Bicyclops posted:
It's easy to talk endless poo poo about how every possible way the West could respond to a crisis is bad, and even easier if all you have to do when someone asks you what they should be doing instead is just kick back and say "of COURSE I can't sum up the vast complexity of a response that would satisfy me in something as simple as a post on the Internet, but trust me, one exists out there somewhere  "If you don't have any better ideas, then yeah, don't talk poo poo. Even R Mute's "just burn the fucker down" post was at least an answer. Personally I think everyone's proposed vast, sweeping systemic changes would take at least a generation to have any effect, and in the meantime there is a militant group massacring people right now and if we want them to stop massacring people we're going to have to defeat them. No reason we couldn't do that AND end neocolonialism or whatever.
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Funosaurus posted:Yes. It also relies on the reader viewing the internment of Japanese in the US as a good thing. I thought it was about nuking the middle east. alnilam posted:I rode by 3 public playgrounds to get to work today I usually don't include the citation when I pull comics because it's just a fox news link, just generally when the tags are super racist. I can do that if you want though 
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Several cartoonists including JJ McCullough and Ann Telnaes did some photo essays on the CH shooting for Bors' site: https://medium.com/the-nib/laugh-cry-be-offended-ba8f59553c79 JJ's is predictably smug but also kind of funny I have to admit.   Meanwhile,  1 2 IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY   3 Bors did this one already, Ted. And better. 4 5 OK, I laughed at "Veto Corleone" at least. 6 7 http://www.cbsnews.com/news/d-c-metro-deaths-what-went-wrong/ 8   9 10
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Xander77 posted:Welp. The one bit of Russian news coverage I saw was an outright dumb and so goddamn crazy (or at least shrill and actively hysterical) reporter screeching about : Nah, Kremlin loves the idea of a peaceful, multinational empire where everyone gets respected and tolerated as long as they hold Traditional Values. Obviously freedom of speech is considered a gaynazi european abomination and is basically the worst thing.
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THEY HAD ARMED GUARDS YOU gently caress
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colonel_korn posted:
Article 1. Section 7 of the United States Constitution posted:Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill. PRESIDENTIAL VETO POWER IS IN THE FRIGGIN CONSTITUTION, YOU HACKS
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Romney bulks up in areas that didn't need bulking while completely skipping leg day leading to another nasty fall. AGC I'd avoid eye contact with a candidate that lived in the woods and strung children up by their intestines too.
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alnilam posted:THEY HAD ARMED GUARDS YOU gently caress
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loquacius posted:It's easy to talk endless poo poo about how every possible way the West could respond to a crisis is bad, and even easier if all you have to do when someone asks you what they should be doing instead is just kick back and say "of COURSE I can't sum up the vast complexity of a response that would satisfy me in something as simple as a post on the Internet, but trust me, one exists out there somewhere If our choices are inaction or full-scale military intervention or "Bicyclops, not an expert on Africa has to come up with a solution," then I'd talk to some people I trust and go with option three, I guess, but between the first two, yes, inaction would be better than military intervention. I'm sorry that I am not enough of an expert to propose an exact solution, but given the repeated conflicts in the area in Rwanda, the People's Republic of Congo and Nigeria, it seems to me that crushing one group of slaughterers really does not seem like a realistic or helpful idea.
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I know this is "Durr mass shooting\Europe == No gun zone  " but this really does piss me off. What does he want? The police officers to be doubly armed with guns? THEY HAD GUNS, THEY loving SHOT BACK!
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colonel_korn posted:
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Bicyclops posted:If our choices are inaction or full-scale military intervention or "Bicyclops, not an expert on Africa has to come up with a solution," then I'd talk to some people I trust and go with option three, I guess, but between the first two, yes, inaction would be better than military intervention. I'm sorry that I am not enough of an expert to propose an exact solution, but given the repeated conflicts in the area in Rwanda, the People's Republic of Congo and Nigeria, it seems to me that crushing one group of slaughterers really does not seem like a realistic or helpful idea. The whole point is that, in the subforum Debate and Discussion, when you're posed a question, hopefully you have a response other than "um... well, uh... I don't think this is the place to go into it..." I think we can all agree that the US shouldn't just drop a million bombs on Africa and call it a day, but the question is what do you want instead?
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fatherboxx posted:Nah, Kremlin loves the idea of a peaceful, multinational empire where everyone gets respected and tolerated as long as they hold Traditional Values. Obviously freedom of speech is considered a gaynazi european abomination and is basically the worst thing. That sounds awful.
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Is it just me or is the portrayal of terrorists in political cartoons moving further and further away from just muslims in general? I mean, if so, good.
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