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Sakurazuka posted:I wonder if non-tank controls will make the game too easy, or will the confusion from the sudden camera angle changes negate any advantage. It's the latter, the option to turn off tank controls was in some later games, or maybe just similar games (silent hill 2) and the transitions without the tank controls meant you usually ended up going the wrong direction, often back to the screen you were just on. Sometimes it'd loop and you'd continuously change screens as long as you held down right or whatever. Maybe they've fixed that effect too though.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:37
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Fear Effect 2 did that. It was terrible.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:38
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Gat out of Hell is looking kinda cool. Dunno if I'm going to grab the remaster on the ps4 that has all the saint's row 4 dlc, or if I am just going to get the add on for the ps3. Haven't heard/seen much about the RE remaster. Anyone have any links?
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Jan 14, 2015 18:45
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Tried PSNow for an hour. Really, really, really phenomenally good. Only had once incidence of choppiness, other than that it looked great. I think the audio is only coming over in stereo, though, which kind of sucks. I can see this being a success, especially for people who never had a PS3.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:47
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Bobtista posted:There's a Plex app on the PS4 app section of the PSN store when the gently caress did that happen? It'll be free for all without plexpass at some point, they always do that at first on a new platform.
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Jan 14, 2015 19:01
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Brightman posted:It's the latter, the option to turn off tank controls was in some later games, or maybe just similar games (silent hill 2) and the transitions without the tank controls meant you usually ended up going the wrong direction, often back to the screen you were just on. Sometimes it'd loop and you'd continuously change screens as long as you held down right or whatever. Maybe they've fixed that effect too though. The easiest way is just to make it so that you carry on moving in the same direction in game after the camera change no matter which direction you're holding on the controller, until you you release the stick, I think that's how some games like DMC did it.
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Jan 14, 2015 19:06
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Brightman posted:It's the latter, the option to turn off tank controls was in some later games, or maybe just similar games (silent hill 2) and the transitions without the tank controls meant you usually ended up going the wrong direction, often back to the screen you were just on. Sometimes it'd loop and you'd continuously change screens as long as you held down right or whatever. Maybe they've fixed that effect too though. some guy in a youtube video played with the new controls, and changed back to tank controls fairly early. Apparently, the game just works better with tank controls. The first DMC handled that pretty well, when you changed screens you kept moving in the same direction until you moved the analouge stick
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Jan 14, 2015 19:08
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Sakurazuka posted:The easiest way is just to make it so that you carry on moving in the same direction in game after the camera change no matter which direction you're holding on the controller, until you you release the stick, I think that's how some games like DMC did it. Yeah, that's what I meant by they might've fixed that effect. Granted that itself can be slightly disorientating depending on the transition, but iirc you get used to it. Attitude Indicator posted:some guy in a youtube video played with the new controls, and changed back to tank controls fairly early. Apparently, the game just works better with tank controls. So they didn't fix the effect or it was just disorientating that way?
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Jan 14, 2015 19:56
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I think I know the answer to this, but do downloadable PS3 games work on PS4? I'm still a couple months from buying a PS4, but I'm planning on buying the Jak and Daxter collection and it would be great to not have to keep my PS3 hooked up.
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Jan 14, 2015 20:21
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Jan 14, 2015 20:22
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Attitude Indicator posted:some guy in a youtube video played with the new controls, and changed back to tank controls fairly early. Apparently, the game just works better with tank controls. Pretty sure the wii version had this feature too. IMO it was great for moving around but it's way too difficult to do combat with.
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Jan 14, 2015 20:23
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Fremry posted:I think I know the answer to this, but do downloadable PS3 games work on PS4? I'm still a couple months from buying a PS4, but I'm planning on buying the Jak and Daxter collection and it would be great to not have to keep my PS3 hooked up. No. The only PS3 stuff that runs on PS4 is stuff that's been re-released on PS4 (some of which is cross buy, so you'll get the PS4 version for free), or the new subscription service PS Now, that streams a selection of PS3 games from the ~cloud~.
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Jan 14, 2015 20:23
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How much Bandwidth does PSnow eat up? I might give it a try but if it'll eat up a shitload of Bandwidth I probably won't subscribe until I upgrade to unlimited Internet.
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Jan 14, 2015 20:23
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Wait why does it stream them from the cloud? Why doesn't It just download them like you download other games?
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Jan 14, 2015 20:31
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Spalec posted:How much Bandwidth does PSnow eat up? I might give it a try but if it'll eat up a shitload of Bandwidth I probably won't subscribe until I upgrade to unlimited Internet. This is where I'm at. gently caress Comcast.
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Jan 14, 2015 20:32
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rear end Catchcum posted:Wait why does it stream them from the cloud? Why doesn't It just download them like you download other games? Because the PS4 can't play PS3 games. All you're doing is starting up a session of the game on a remote PS3 and streaming the video to your PS4 (obvious over-simplification but whatever).
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Jan 14, 2015 20:33
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Hahaha that is so dumb. Do they really just have millions of ps3's hooked up
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Jan 14, 2015 20:37
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Brightman posted:It's the latter, the option to turn off tank controls was in some later games, or maybe just similar games (silent hill 2) and the transitions without the tank controls meant you usually ended up going the wrong direction, often back to the screen you were just on. Sometimes it'd loop and you'd continuously change screens as long as you held down right or whatever. Maybe they've fixed that effect too though.
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rear end Catchcum posted:Hahaha that is so dumb. Do they really just have millions of ps3's hooked up You're going to download all that poo poo? The whole point is that it's instant. It'd be like downloading a netflix movie everytime you wanted to watch one.
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Jan 14, 2015 20:39
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rear end Catchcum posted:Hahaha that is so dumb. Do they really just have millions of ps3's hooked up Some weird mega-minimalized super-effective PS3 units storing quickly taking whatever data the connected client needs on RAM/SSD/Etc. And craploads of them per single rack-unit height. I gave up and bought a PS3 to replace my dead one for christmas but I'll be grumpy if they don't drop a superduperslim PS3 based on this tech at E3 or GamesCom.
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Jan 14, 2015 20:40
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Great Joe posted:A whole bunch of games made it so that so long as you held about the same direction on a transition, you'd keep going in that direction until you drastically changed what direction you held. This has been a solution in games for forever and I cant imagine its not in here.
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Jan 14, 2015 20:43
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Gat out of Hell is looking kinda cool. Dunno if I'm going to grab the remaster on the ps4 that has all the saint's row 4 dlc, or if I am just going to get the add on for the ps3. I'm getting it for PS4. I loved SRIV on PS3, but that game seemed really taxing on its hardware. I suspect that the PS4 version will be better optimized and will have objectively better controls due to the DS4.
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rear end Catchcum posted:Hahaha that is so dumb. Do they really just have millions of ps3's hooked up So how would you propose they make PS3 games playable on a PS4, PSTV, Smart TV? History Comes Inside! fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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Jan 14, 2015 21:04
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Eeh, just buy a PS3. I only had a Wii through the last generation until I realized I missed a lot of good games. When the ps4 was announced as not being backward compatible, I just bought a PS3. Problem solved.
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Morby posted:I'm getting it for PS4. I loved SRIV on PS3, but that game seemed really taxing on its hardware. I suspect that the PS4 version will be better optimized and will have objectively better controls due to the DS4. I'm kinda wondering what the hosed up people near those little holes in reality are going to look like with the ps4 hardware, cause gently caress they looked nightmarish on the ps3.
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Jan 14, 2015 21:16
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McFunkerson posted:Eeh, just buy a PS3 And then go to the store or mail order every time you want to try something and wait for it to install and patch instead of just clicking on it and playing it right away. I mean PSNow is like obviously not the greatest thing in the universe but acting like it's pointless or whatever is dumb. And it's pretty impressive that it works so well even on low-speed internet.
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precision posted:And then go to the store or mail order every time you want to try something and wait for it to install and patch instead of just clicking on it and playing it right away. Just buy a ps3 with a hundred games installed for 20 dollars dude.
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precision posted:
Yeah, I'd rather get it for a month or two, play all the games I missed and be done with it rather than buy ps3 and bunch of games for it.
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Psnow is more interesting as a TV technology than a console one. The fact is being built into new Samsung TVs like Netflix is pretty badass. I hope they open it up as a pc service, too.
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Jan 14, 2015 21:42
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Red Warrior posted:It'll be free for all without plexpass at some point, they always do that at first on a new platform. Now just make a drat PS4 remote (so my Harmony can scrape the codes from it.)
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No go on PS Now with my 10Mbps connection. Boo. I can't justify upgrading my internet connection right now so I guess I'll be left behind in the digital streaming future of old games.
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echronorian posted:Psnow is more interesting as a TV technology than a console one. The fact is being built into new Samsung TVs like Netflix is pretty badass. I hope they open it up as a pc service, too. Yeah I think that's inevitable and an exciting prospect for the future.
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Brightman posted:
don't know, it was just a video i skimmed through some time ago to take a look at what the remaster looked like. but i remember the dude playing switching to tank controls, so it might be something to keep in mind, that if you hate that controll scheme, it still might be the best way to play the game.
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rear end Catchcum posted:Wait why does it stream them from the cloud? Why doesn't It just download them like you download other games? Even if you put a PS3 game in a PS4, it's not possible to run it. Every PS3 game had to be specifically written for the system's CPU and GPU, and the PS4 shares about as much in common with the PS3 as it does the 360 or Wii U. The reasons the PS4 can't play PS3 games are:
The only way to play PS3 games is with a PS3, streaming them from a server-side PS3 with PSNow, or to just wait for some remasters on the PS4.
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That loving Sned posted:
The PS3's individual cores run faster than the PS4's individual cores so emulating is pretty much always going to be impossible.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I'm kinda wondering what the hosed up people near those little holes in reality are going to look like with the ps4 hardware, cause gently caress they looked nightmarish on the ps3. I really hope they bothered to take advantage of the better hardware. The game is still fun as hell.
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McFunkerson posted:Eeh, just buy a PS3. I only had a Wii through the last generation until I realized I missed a lot of good games. When the ps4 was announced as not being backward compatible, I just bought a PS3. Problem solved. I had a 360 instead of a PS3 and there were a few exclusive games I missed out on that I'd like to be able to play (MGS3, Yakuza series). I'd give Now a try if they become available via subscription on it, but gently caress if I'm spending roughly $150 or whatever on a 9 year old console to play a couple interesting sounding games. Thauros fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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Oh, yeah... Sorry. My comment was more about "oh noes, my backwards compatibility!?!??" Than PSNow being a useless service. PSNow isn't for me, but I can see why other people would find value in it. I have rather particular tastes and like being able to keep and replay my games later down the road, so I had no problems picking up a console and the dozen or so titles I wanted used at super cheap prices. Would have been nice if ps4 could play them, but it can't so it let me put off buying a ps4 until I could get a cheap(er) used one.
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