|
D.N. Nation posted:PRESIDENTIAL VETO POWER IS IN THE FRIGGIN CONSTITUTION, YOU HACKS It' s especially hilarious since Obama hasn't vetoed a single loving thing from the new Congress yet and the righties are already bitching about it anyway.
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:21
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 04:56 |
|
|
Bicyclops posted:Uh, if you guys aren't for murdering all cops, then maybe you could propose a solution for fixing the police problem, you know besides "eliminate all racism for social justice?" Really not digging these abstract answers that don't propose actual wins for society. There's a difference between saying "Boko Haram is bad" and saying "the US response to Boko Haram is bad." I can say the first without having the slightest idea what to do about Boko Haram, the second suggests that I have some idea that there's something better the US could be doing.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:22
|
|
|
I don't think the criticism in the Latuff cartoon was that the U.S. response to Boko Haram is bad. I think it's that the media response, which has been mostly to ignore it while discussing the French situation much more in depth, was troublesome.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:28
|
|
|
Selachian posted:It' s especially hilarious since Obama hasn't vetoed a single loving thing from the new Congress yet and the righties are already bitching about it anyway. Guess how many vetoes Obama has just guess http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/vetoes.php it's 2  Granted presidents tend to issue more in their last 2 years, when congress inevitably flips to the other side. But notably,  Reagan and Bush Sr had issued 59 and 44 by the end of year 6.Also gonna leave this here, about executive orders. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php God what a tyrant.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:31
|
|
|
Wasn't Franck Brinsolaro (the protection officer) armed?
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:32
|
|
1
|
alnilam posted:Guess how many vetoes Obama has Goddamn, FDR's 635. I mean, I know he served forever, but on a term by term basis he was still knocking them out of the park until the 79thn congress at the end.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:34
|
|
|
Gilganixon posted:Wasn't Franck Brinsolaro (the protection officer) armed? If a bad guy with a gun wasn't stopped it means there wasn't a good man with a gun to stop him.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:35
|
|
|
Gilganixon posted:Wasn't Franck Brinsolaro (the protection officer) armed? Gun free zones don't deter shooters, therefore every shooting occurs in a gun free zone.  I think either Branco or one of the McCoys did a gun-free-zone cartoon after the Fort Hood shooting too, and that was on a military base
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:35
|
|
|
Mehuyael posted:If a bad guy with a gun wasn't stopped it means there wasn't a good man with a gun to stop him. What, you think a good guy would be named Ahmed?
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:36
|
|
|
Bors just confirmed the guy in the JJ essay is him. Also, that essay is loving awful.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:55
|
|
|
Bicyclops posted:I don't think the criticism in the Latuff cartoon was that the U.S. response to Boko Haram is bad. I think it's that the media response, which has been mostly to ignore it while discussing the French situation much more in depth, was troublesome. Well sure, but is it really preferable to have the media collectively wringing their hands over it without actually doing anything? I think that's how the intervention tack got brought up in the first place. #BOKO2015
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:56
|
|
|
Rorus Raz posted:Bors just confirmed the guy in the JJ essay is him. Which is convenient because the dude in the cartoon looks nothing like Matt Bors.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:56
|
|
|
alnilam posted:Guess how many vetoes Obama has Friendly reminder that Bush's first ever veto, which happened two years into his second term, was this horror of horrors.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 19:57
|
|
|
Rorus Raz posted:Bors just confirmed the guy in the JJ essay is him. JJ has apparently never heard of the McCoy family empire.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:00
|
|
|
Some pretty good CH cartoons that haven't been getting any air-time: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/11/1357057/-The-Charlie-Hebdo-cartoons-no-one-is-showing-you Whole article is a pro-click.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:08
|
|
|
You know someone was asking a few days ago about why people in the US seem to really hate the idea of taxes. Honestly I think part of it (other than humans naturally being greedy assholes) is that we as kids are taught that this country revolted from Britain because of taxes. But then again maybe I'm just bitter how stupid our history textbooks are for kids where everything is whitewashed and biased.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:10
|
|
|
My schools always emphasized that the point wasn't the taxes but the lack of representation in Parliament even though we were paying taxes, but I grew up in a blue state  Personally I blame Reagan.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:13
|
|
|
loquacius posted:My schools always emphasized that the point wasn't the taxes but the lack of representation in Parliament even though we were paying taxes, but I grew up in a blue state It's Reagan. This country tolerated high taxes just fine on the rich in what many of its citizens (erroneously) consider the "good ol' days." Southern Strategy, politics of resentment, enforcing the idea that taxes mean that some (minority) one, somewhere is getting something FOR FREE on YOUR DIME, etc. Reagan played that up like a charm, and it's been the bedrock of the GOP ever since.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:21
|
|
|
RyokoTK posted:Well sure, but is it really preferable to have the media collectively wringing their hands over it without actually doing anything? I think that's how the intervention tack got brought up in the first place. Yes? I mean, I take issue with the phrase "wringing their hands" in this instance, but yes. Particularly in cases where the job of said media is to report news, why is the massacre of 12 in Paris that we can do nothing about more newsworthy than the massacre of 2,000 people that we can do nothing about?
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:24
|
|
|
The US actually has pretty good taxpayer morale (motivation to pay) relative to a lot of other countries.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:28
|
|
|
Gilganixon posted:Wasn't Franck Brinsolaro (the protection officer) armed? Don't you understand? If EVERYONE in the building was armed, this would NEVER happen.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:43
|
|
|
KazigluBey posted:Some pretty good CH cartoons that haven't been getting any air-time: On the subject of pro-clicks (though my click is not as pro a click as yours, it being from the Escapist), Mr. Chipman weighed in on the whole Charlie Hebdo thing on The Big Picture. He does not really go into the differences of satire and the difference between American and European satire, but he does present a pretty nuanced view which is a nice palette cleanser from stuff like Arthur Chu's article.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:48
|
|
|
Gilganixon posted:Wasn't Franck Brinsolaro (the protection officer) armed? Are you saying the police can't protect us?
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:51
|
|
|
Flectarn posted:don't post in the political cartoons thread unless you have a 5 point plan on how to end poverty forever well that's real simple; instigate total nuclear war, killing all of humanity and thus ending all human suffering
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:54
|
|
|
I really wish people had just posted the content of actual Charlie Hebdo mags and old comics from the deceased way earlier on in this process, so we could have avoided the shitfest from before. It's a lot more clear to me now, I just wish everyone else had seen what this thread has seen about Charlie Hebdo instead of being stuck at the stage we were at a couple days ago.forbidden lesbian posted:well that's real simple; instigate total nuclear war, killing all of humanity and thus ending all human suffering
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 20:56
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:01
|
|
|
Again asking if it's possible to have the Charlie translations (this and the previous one) offsite so they can be shared.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:02
|
|
|
Haha all three of these are great.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:03
|
|
|
achillesforever6 posted:You know someone was asking a few days ago about why people in the US seem to really hate the idea of taxes. Honestly I think part of it (other than humans naturally being greedy assholes) is that we as kids are taught that this country revolted from Britain because of taxes. But then again maybe I'm just bitter how stupid our history textbooks are for kids where everything is whitewashed and biased. I blame the lack of Christian values in the USA.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:06
|
|
|
forbidden lesbian posted:well that's real simple; instigate total nuclear war, killing all of humanity and thus ending all human suffering that's a one point plan at best spacetoaster posted:Are you saying the police can't protect us? If everyone in the CH office was wearing full kevlar body armour and was cartooning away behind reinforced concrete desks, each of them strapped like Branco while a SWAT team armed with military assault weapons and a rocket propelled grenade launcher or two took up tactical positions in the reception area at all times then this tragedy would have been averted. But France doesn't love freedom enough to deploy militarised police in all possible locations all the time and cartoonists aren't required to conceal carry so here we all are.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:10
|
|
|
@TedRall posted:Tomorrow's cartoon about #CharlieHebdo is as outrageous as they are, methinks. http://ow.ly/i/8gdSD 
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:12
|
|
|
How shocking 
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:14
|
|
|
Obama could move us forward if the GOP hadn't stolen the people's paddle, forcing us to spin in place. AGC
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:15
|
|
|
 That's like the cheapest joke you could do. The reason no-one else has bothered to do it is because it's so cheap.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:16
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:19
|
|
|
The funniest thing about this cartoon is that Rall thought it'd be the most provocative poo poo ever
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:20
|
|
|
God bless Bad Reporter 
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:30
|
|
|
Kurtofan posted:The only funny thing about this cartoon is that Rall thought it'd be the most provocative poo poo ever
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:33
|
|
|
Broken Cog posted:
I expected basically the same thing, but an editor lamenting that he couldn't get subscriptions up because they didn't have any BRAVE AND DARING cartoonists to get murdered.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:35
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 04:56 |
|
|
I dunno, I laughed pretty hard when I realized that the grey thing behind the editor is supposed to be a window that is apparently too opaque to show anything in the room beyond it.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2015 21:36
|
|