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Three words: "tragic boat accident"
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Ptolemaeus posted:It just kept getting worse. The barrel I assumed wouldn't be too much trouble. Then I found the box on top with trigger assemblies for the M3 and various rifle pieces. I figured that while probably not belonging in a storage locker, it wasn't too much of an issue. 30 Minutes later and finding M4 uppers with serials, random lowers, more barrels, the SIK keys with serials so probably filled, controlled crypto items, hard drives unmarked, and absolutely not one piece of BII, thats when I realized I had probably made a mistake. Not really an idiot example for me, but when my platoon took over QRF at Korean Village we inherited a shipping container from the previous army unit(82nd or 101st I think). In the container was a couple eotechs, a 240 reciever, backpack ECM systems, some NVGs, cyz-10(no key), a 117 and a lot of random non-serialized gear.
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I am just going get supply to add all the arms room stuff to my hand receipt, turn the hard drives in with our next s2 load of stuff for wiping/deleting, and dump the crypto on S6 and hope for the best.
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Jan 14, 2015 19:18
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That reminds me of the time I went into a transport room and looked into a rack and there were a bunch of torque wrenches under the floor. Not hidden under the floor, just placed through the hole in the floor inside the equipment rack. We put them on the cart we had and brought them back to the shop. When we got back, some other shop freaked out about how they weren't technically in their tools program, were hidden because of an inspection and why would we bring them back? Probably because they weren't even hidden and we didn't want to get in trouble for having unaccounted for tools in our floor.
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In Iwakuni at the test cell there was a bunch of random untracked poo poo that was hidden in the rafters of one of the buildings, hell I don't think anyone even knew about the poo poo being there because it had been up there for so loving long untouched. We had a goddamn NAVAIR inspection show up and GySgt rear end in a top hat makes a loving beeline to the test cell, climbs up the ladder and goes "WHAT IS ALL THIS poo poo UP HERE?!!" No one had any idea it was up there at all so they start going through the box and seeing some paperwork signed off by a LCpl, LCpl rear end in a top hat to be specific. That motherfucker hid that poo poo for an inspection nearly 10 years prior and then comes back as a loving inspector and hits our shop on the exact same poo poo he put up there. 
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Bolow posted:That motherfucker hid that poo poo for an inspection nearly 10 years prior and then comes back as a loving inspector and hits our shop on the exact same poo poo he put up there. I want to believe.
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Ptolemaeus posted:It just kept getting worse. The barrel I assumed wouldn't be too much trouble. Then I found the box on top with trigger assemblies for the M3 and various rifle pieces. I figured that while probably not belonging in a storage locker, it wasn't too much of an issue. 30 Minutes later and finding M4 uppers with serials, random lowers, more barrels, the SIK keys with serials so probably filled, controlled crypto items, hard drives unmarked, and absolutely not one piece of BII, thats when I realized I had probably made a mistake. Just FYI - the M16 / M4 uppers may be serialized for inventory control but the lower is something you definitely need to secure ASAP. Under federal law, the lower of an M4 is the part that is considered a machinegun and unauthorized possession of any NFA restricted item (machine guns, short barreled shotguns, silencers, etc) can be hit with fines up to $250,000 and 10 years in federal prison. That lower may have been combat lossed or otherwise "disappeared" from inventory but getting caught with it under your possession without accountability is a great way to go to DB. EDIT: The unsecured lower is something that can and will get CID & MPs (not to mention the BATFE) involved if it shows up after being "lost" also wtf blood chits are serialized? sky shark fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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Jan 14, 2015 20:49
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They absolutely are. That's kind of the very heart of how you're supposed to use them.
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By M3 trigger assembly, exactly which weapon do you mean? There's like, three different things it could be. Or did they have old Grease Gun stuff shoved in there gathering dust?
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chitoryu12 posted:By M3 trigger assembly, exactly which weapon do you mean? There's like, three different things it could be. Or did they have old Grease Gun stuff shoved in there gathering dust? Unzip and Attack posted:I want to believe.
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Bolow posted:In Iwakuni at the test cell there was a bunch of random untracked poo poo that was hidden in the rafters of one of the buildings, hell I don't think anyone even knew about the poo poo being there because it had been up there for so loving long untouched. We had a goddamn NAVAIR inspection show up and GySgt rear end in a top hat makes a loving beeline to the test cell, climbs up the ladder and goes "WHAT IS ALL THIS poo poo UP HERE?!!" That level of buddy fuckery is truly upholding the highest traditions of the United States Marine Corps. Someone get this guy a NAM.
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chitoryu12 posted:By M3 trigger assembly, exactly which weapon do you mean? There's like, three different things it could be. Or did they have old Grease Gun stuff shoved in there gathering dust? I am a fudd and will leave that unedited for humiliation. I meant M2, the trigger block at the back that you can remove or whatnot. I may have armorer duties but dear lord I am not an armorer. But yeah anything that really should be accounted for and SI, I am just going to inform 1SG/Supply of and figure out where to go from there. If it was a grease gun, there would have been a tragic boating accident. Also let me add to my list of retardation and realize that after discussing with a buddy that it isn't actually real lowers. Its just the handgrip/trigger/selector for them which explains no serial and W------ and I guess they are used for training aid? Ptolemaeus fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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Jan 14, 2015 22:24
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Ptolemaeus posted:Also let me add to my list of retardation and realize that after discussing with a buddy that it isn't actually real lowers. Its just the handgrip/trigger/selector for them which explains no serial and W------ and I guess they are used for training aid? You just described a lower.
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Jan 15, 2015 00:49
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Unserialed lower receivers in your arms room? 
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Icon Of Sin posted:Unserialed lower receivers in your arms room? And PM me pics.
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Then go AWOL.
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I genuinely hope he means there are just trigger housing groups, grips, and selectors there without the lower itself. Because the alternative is almost certainly going to result in a pretty insane NCIS/BATF/FBI investigation and someone is going down harrdddd.
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Thump! posted:Wait, they serialize upper receivers? I haven't seen it for M16s or M4s, but someone last page said they do it for internal inventory I guess? E: holy poo poo I just can't get over the concept of unserialed NFA items in a god drat military container. Sorry buddy, but if that is what it is, you are about to be in the epicenter of the biggest military poo poo storm you could ever imagine. USMC503 fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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Having been directly responsible for both weapons and EKMS/crypto, I am much more  about undocumentend keying materials in a loving armory locker.
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ManMythLegend posted:Having been directly responsible for both weapons and EKMS/crypto, I am much more Yeah, I'm all "guns, huh, whatever", but random COMSEC gear?  That's a hell of a locker to discover. I'd just assume at this point the hard drives have kiddie porn and/or nuclear secrets on them, because that would just about round out the fuckery.
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ManMythLegend posted:Having been directly responsible for both weapons and EKMS/crypto, I am much more All CIKs are serialized, that don't mean nothing. I would have no idea what to do in this situation other than to keep it in a box in the corner and hope it's forgotten about again because the implications are not good. I would be throwing myself on the mercy of whoever I reported it to and be completely honest because holy poo poo I don't wanna be the guy who got nailed because he had boxes of felonious poo poo. This sounds like you were set up Ptolemaeus.
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50 Foot Ant posted:Oh, and all goddamn armorers are loving scumbags who rate lower on the life form scale than that skeezy looking motherfucker who looks at child porn while on guard duty and lets people slip in the gate because he's too loving busy jerking it off to pictures he took during the last mandatory fun day. Wait, I thought Bob A Feet was an Osprey pilot.
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Wasabi the J posted:All CIKs are serialized, that don't mean nothing. Legit question, does the Army not maintain accountability for them in their EKMS account? Because loosing any piece of serialized crypto gear is a Big DealTM in the Navy.
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50 Foot Ant posted:Everyone hates goddamn new CO inspections, but there's a loving reason for them. Truth. ManMythLegend posted:Legit question, does the Army not maintain accountability for them in their EKMS account? Because loosing any piece of serialized crypto gear is a Big DealTM in the Navy. It is the same in the Army, but it's the difference between Article 15 and Federal PMITA Prison if it's loaded.
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Jan 15, 2015 02:26
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50 Foot Ant posted:I got plenty of them involving nukes and chemical weapons. Any of them true?
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Cojawfee posted:Any of them true?
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Cojawfee posted:Any of them true? 
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ManMythLegend posted:Legit question, does the Army not maintain accountability for them in their EKMS account? Because loosing any piece of serialized crypto gear is a Big DealTM in the Navy. Air Force as well. Our supply people flipped out when we asked why the gently caress we had an uninventoried STU-3 in our tactics shop in like 2010. I don't even know how the thing works, if it has a crypto card like the STE or what, but we didn't have any of that. Just the phone. It was a Serious Problem. Cojawfee posted:Any of them true? 
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My medical reserve unit during draw down inventories in the mid 90's had records for crypto gear; KG-xx, KYK-xx etc, in which no one could find where they where at. I made the mistake of opening a unsecured trailer parked next to a building. Shoved all the way into back was the missing cypto gear, and a bunch of commo stuff (Teletypes, Switchboards) that had disappeared.
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Jan 15, 2015 04:37
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Mike-o posted:They were still using teletypes in the 90s? Dude my signal company in the guard had telegraphs in the supply cages when we did our last big cleaning. Like the no bull poo poo dot-dot-dash things.
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Wasabi the J posted:Dude my signal company in the guard had telegraphs in the supply cages when we did our last big cleaning. Well yeah just in case this happens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrOBxnYubs
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