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Cataphract posted:If you're going into a GW store they'll give you a free space marine and a painting lesson. Thats a cool demon he's all like "you come here and pick up my barrel of sludge right now..."
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AbusePuppy posted:They were pretty bad in 4th due to being expensive and universal 4+ cover making their 4+ invuln largely useless. I don't remember specifically to 2nd Edition, but certainly in 3rd and later Thousand Sons have never been good. They've always been somewhere between mediocre and steaming hot garbage. The most damning thing about Thousand Sons is that the Mark of Tzeentch is better served on anything OTHER than their signature unit. Moola posted:he's all like "you come here and pick up my barrel of sludge right now..." "Abaddon you get back here right now and pick up your juice."
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AbusePuppy posted:They were pretty bad in 4th due to being expensive and universal 4+ cover making their 4+ invuln largely useless. I don't remember specifically to 2nd Edition, but certainly in 3rd and later Thousand Sons have never been good. They've always been somewhere between mediocre and steaming hot garbage. Let's hope that eventually they get the Chaos Spawn treatment and go from garbage to one of the best units. And get a plastic kit.  Evor 3 posted:The new White Dwarf Tyrannocyte rules are whats tripping tyranid people up on MC rules. Does it measure from each of the 5 weapon barrels to its targets or can the mob hit one thing 5 times regardless of the creatures shape because it can spin, etc. Yeah this is exactly why I was asking. I gave the question to the GT judge to ponder but Instinctive Fire is written really poorly. RAW it just shoots one close unit five times, but it's written to suggest otherwise. PierreTheMime fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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^^^ Old time thousand sons where straight up immune to S4 and lower shooting, right? Kind of like some of the older Dark Eldar models.Pendent posted:Sanguinary Guard look neat at well. Blood angels are pretty neat, and are probably the best army that mixes shooting and assault (S5 I5 on the charge is huge). The GW youtube channel has some neat videos on painting blood angels. It will take time and practice (as does anything), but it's a decent way to see how to paint. A tac squad is the best way to start. Each tac squad can have 3 special guys in it (sergeant, special weapon, heavy weapon) and the rest are guys with bolters... I would recomend starting with the bolter guys first and leaving off the specialists weapons (you can generally not glue the arms, head, backpack on) until you know how you want to build them. EDIT: Never listen to Hollismason. LordAba fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jan 14, 2015 |
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Moola posted:Thats a cool demon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f-kPTcW4KI
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Pendent posted:Sanguinary Guard look neat at well. This is a pretty good guide and website for good tutorials http://www.thewaaaghstudios.com/tutorials/bapaint.html GWs tutorials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9HzqHVg1uE
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she could use it for basing/weathering idk what she's complaining about
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Leo Showers posted:she could use it for basing/weathering idk what she's complaining about  
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40k Thread, I'm looking to add some heavy metal to my Blood Angels force and I'm stuck at a crossroads. Should I buy 2 Land Raiders, 2 Storm Ravens, or just say screw it and get an Imperial Knight Titan? My force right now is mostly infantry, as vehicles go I have 5 Rhinos, a Razorback, and a Vindicator.
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ThNextGreenLantern posted:40k Thread, I'm looking to add some heavy metal to my Blood Angels force and I'm stuck at a crossroads. Should I buy 2 Land Raiders, 2 Storm Ravens, or just say screw it and get an Imperial Knight Titan? My force right now is mostly infantry, as vehicles go I have 5 Rhinos, a Razorback, and a Vindicator. I think Storm Ravens would work well. Consider 1x Storm Raven and 2x Storm Talon for the formation (if the Storm Raven comes on, the two storm talons come on escorting it).
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ijyt posted:I think Storm Ravens would work well. Consider 1x Storm Raven and 2x Storm Talon for the formation (if the Storm Raven comes on, the two storm talons come on escorting it). Blood angels can't take storm talons.
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ijyt posted:I think Storm Ravens would work well. Consider 1x Storm Raven and 2x Storm Talon for the formation (if the Storm Raven comes on, the two storm talons come on escorting it). Blood Angels don't get Storm Talons, but there's always allies. e,fb: My first e,fb!
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Hollismason posted:Ugh what was the 2nd edition rules for Thousand Sons, I cannot for the life of me remember. I thought they had rules in 2nd edition.  
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yeah they were pretty much garbage in 2nd edition
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Cataphract posted:Blood angels can't take storm talons. Yes but he can take the Storm Wing formation to get a Raven and 2x Talons.
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Oh right they were. What was it they got though that was good, didn't they have special guns or something? I can't remember, no one played them everyone played Khorne Berserkers or would go for getting possessed. 2nd edition did I believe have some kick rear end rules for running up a score to become possessed which was cool and should be brought back. ThNextGreenLantern posted:40k Thread, I'm looking to add some heavy metal to my Blood Angels force and I'm stuck at a crossroads. Should I buy 2 Land Raiders, 2 Storm Ravens, or just say screw it and get an Imperial Knight Titan? My force right now is mostly infantry, as vehicles go I have 5 Rhinos, a Razorback, and a Vindicator. Storm Ravens so you can make use of the formations that require them and are actually good.
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Slimnoid posted:Yes but he can take the Storm Wing formation to get a Raven and 2x Talons. I knew I wasn't crazy.
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You should get the Stormraven so you can get that Archangels Sanguine Wing Formation which is crazy, Chaos better get something like that. It's really good but seriously, although I can't really complain as Daemons just get free poo poo for like nothing. Here's some more dudes.
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AbusePuppy posted:They were pretty bad in 4th due to being expensive and universal 4+ cover making their 4+ invuln largely useless. I don't remember specifically to 2nd Edition, but certainly in 3rd and later Thousand Sons have never been good. They've always been somewhere between mediocre and steaming hot garbage. Last edition the sorcerer had a choice of decent powers, but thats gone now. I dont want the unit to be the new long fangs or anything, just useable.
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Between Ebay and KRMulticase I've spent $700 bucks on this hobby in this month alone...I am lost...
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Drunk Ebay and Forgeworld purchases are the worst.
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Uroboros posted:Between Ebay and KRMulticase I've spent $700 bucks on this hobby in this month alone...I am lost... But the deals are too good! ....yeah I'm bidding for more sisters of battle despite the rumors of plastic kits or whatever.
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Slimnoid posted:Yes but he can take the Storm Wing formation to get a Raven and 2x Talons. Sure... I spose he could also take a basilisk or meganobz.
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Cataphract posted:Sure... I spose he could also take a basilisk or meganobz. Which he can actually do thanks to the allies chart! Oooor he can just stick with the Stormwing formation with his BA, which is entirely legal and has been since 6th.
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adamantium|wang posted:Forgot to include Daemonic Vulnerabilities and Immunities: Holy poo poo there were graviton guns back in 2nd. What other wonders of technology will be rediscovered with the march of time?
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Slimnoid posted:Which he can actually do thanks to the allies chart! That was my point. If we are talking about allies he can take whatever he wants; orks, space marines, whatever But he was asking for advice on blood Angels. The storm wing detachment is a space marine data slate; legal in a blood Angels army, sure, but only in so far as everything in the game is via allies.
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Tommofork posted:Holy poo poo there were graviton guns back in 2nd. What other wonders of technology will be rediscovered with the march of time? I'm hoping they bring back the pulsa rokkit but not make it as insane as it was in 2nd , seriously just give the gently caress up if your opponent has multiples of them.
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They had a Pulsa Rokkit Apocalypse datasheet. 200 points, wildly unpredictable as to be expected. You could likely find it via Google since it was on the GW site at one point.
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Cataphract posted:But he was asking for advice on blood Angels. Considering his post was about adding some heavy stuff to his army ThNextGreenLantern posted:40k Thread, I'm looking to add some heavy metal to my Blood Angels force and I'm stuck at a crossroads. Should I buy 2 Land Raiders, 2 Storm Ravens, or just say screw it and get an Imperial Knight Titan? My force right now is mostly infantry, as vehicles go I have 5 Rhinos, a Razorback, and a Vindicator. suggesting a raven and 2x talons via the datasheet is a valid piece of advice for a BA player. Or any Imperial army, for that matter, since both units are very good and don't take up an Ally slot.
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Didn't they have rules in the Chaos book where they got sweet bolter ammo? I vaguely remember taking them because they were relatively better than the average Chaos marine at shooting poo poo up.
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Yeah they did but I think it was like a -2 or something, I don't think it was that amazing or I don't remember it being that amazing.
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Cataphract posted:Don't listen to him. If you like the look, story and models of blood angels, go with blood angels. Death company rule, psychic dreadnoughts rule and nipple armour rules. I just think the SM book is more beginner friendly and gives a huge variety of options that the BA book lacks. The sweet new BA models with the SM rules seems like win/win to me.
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Elrond Hubbard posted:Didn't they have rules in the Chaos book where they got sweet bolter ammo? I vaguely remember taking them because they were relatively better than the average Chaos marine at shooting poo poo up. Nah, not in 2E. Tzeentch Sorcerers could get Inferno Bolts though:  e: For completeness: quote:Tzeentch’s Fire Storm adamantium|wang fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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Man, I forgot that Genestealers used to be WS7 S6 I7 A4.
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Lungboy posted:I just think the SM book is more beginner friendly and gives a huge variety of options that the BA book lacks. The sweet new BA models with the SM rules seems like win/win to me. Sure, I'll admit that there's a bigger variety of options but I don't think that makes it more user friendly. In fact Chapter tactics, restrictions on special characters and the sheer number of units and variables means it's potentially more daunting for a new player to work from that book. Plus blood Angels rock! Speedy rhinos, assault cannon preds, heavy flamers in drop podding tactical squads. Did I mention the nipples?
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adamantium|wang posted:Man, I forgot that Genestealers used to be WS7 S6 I7 A4. This was back when you rolled your attacks, re rolled the dice your opponent parried, picked out the highest, added your weapon skill, applied any ones your opponent rolled to your score and vice versa. Then you'd compare scores and the difference between the scores was the number of times you hit the opposing model. Repeat for all models in base to base contact... make sure you add the modifier for fighting aditional opponents. Good times 2nd ed. good times. Cataphract fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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If you like cool drop pods, fire, smashing poo poo up in close combat and gigantic walking coffins with lightning blender hands, then blood angels are for you. Unless you're terrible and hate fun I guess
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I still remember that brief shining moment where the White Dwarf leaked and as part of showing off the new kits someone put together a heavy flamer Marine specifically for his tactical squad. Hope blinded us to the long realised fact that these clowns don't know their own game. At all.
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