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Regalingualius posted:MLK's kids/heirs have kind of built up an infamy for trying to cash in on his legacy as much as possible. So much so that Selma doesn't have any actual MLK quotes because of the high fees MLK's estate charges.
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I like that whenever this poo poo comes up the progressive forum starts edging closer and closer talking about poo poo like how 'it's in the best interests of jewish groups to be pro-israel' and how woah woah woah he didn't cal anyone a kike so you're being a little sensitive aren't you? So far we haven't ticked off any pussyfooting around with stuff like 'but no I'm just saying there ARE a lot of Jews in Hollywood sooo' but I assume the it's a matter of time before he makes a comic about how the goddamn jew media is manipulating Uncle Sam and then we can hear some of that.Rorus Raz posted:This is acting like Latuff engages in Dees-level crap on any kind of regular basis, which he doesn't. This, though, is maybe my favorite post in the scale of 'legitimately doesn't understand anything' field, though. I agree, he's not drawing us sucking the blood out of Christian babies so really have we any right to complain? I don't think Tinsley ever drew Obama as a slave talkin shoeshine boy either, thank god drunk duck isn't racist.
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cartoon a giant hooknose or pockets full of money or whatever racist thing he could have done.
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loquacius posted:The most actually anti-Semitic Latuff cartoon I can think of is the one where, to illustrate his opinion that Abbas is too conciliatory toward Israel, he drew him as a Haredi Jew (complete with payos and black hat and beard and tallis etc) praying at the Wailing Wall. Although that one where he drew people who don't like him as Jewish neckbeards jerking off in their pants was pretty Actually that was what I thought too, but apparently he was drawn as a soldier with a kipa.
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This would be so much simpler if Israel wasn't so Jewish.
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Mehuyael posted:Actually that was what I thought too, but apparently he was drawn as a soldier with a kipa. It definitely at LEAST had payos. I'm at work right now and am a little uncertain about going searching for it, though. Shadeoses posted:This would be so much simpler if Israel wasn't so Jewish. New I/P thread title
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 Also, there's a new pornographic cartoon in his facebook. Not a threesome though...
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Ha, he foresaw this thread 12 years ago.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So far we haven't ticked off any pussyfooting around with stuff like 'but no I'm just saying there ARE a lot of Jews in Hollywood sooo' but I assume the it's a matter of time before he makes a comic about how the goddamn jew media is manipulating Uncle Sam and then we can hear some of that. Luckily we can hear you complaining about something that never happened instead.
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Has anyone in the west been jailed for showing support for a free Palestine? A lot of Israel-friendly groups keep throwing the accusation at anyone who looks at them funny, but nobody really take them serious on these matters anymore because of it. I mean, Charlie Hebdo themselves have been massively critical of Israel during the past few years.
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Mehuyael posted:Actually that was what I thought too, but apparently he was drawn as a soldier with a kipa. I guess my question for that is what negative connotation are we meant to take in an anti-Abbas cartoon with him in the proper attire for The Wailing Wall then? Gilganixon posted:Luckily we can hear you complaining about something that never happened instead. I thought that's what we're all doing, what with the talk of all those people being trampled under big-Jew's mighty boot for being pro-Palestine and all.
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Broken Cog posted:Has anyone in the west been jailed for showing support for a free Palestine? A lot of Israel-friendly groups keep throwing the accusation at anyone who looks at them funny, but nobody really take them serious on these matters anymore because of it. I don't think so? No matter what some hardcore Israel supporters say, disagreeing with/criticizing the Israeli government's policies doesn't fall under anti-semitism rules. I think.
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Shugojin posted:I don't think so? No matter what some hardcore Israel supporters say, disagreeing with/criticizing the Israeli government's policies doesn't fall under anti-semitism rules. I think. Latuff sure seems pretty concerned for his FREE SPEECH, though! 
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I like that whenever this poo poo comes up the progressive forum starts edging closer and closer talking about poo poo like how 'it's in the best interests of jewish groups to be pro-israel' and how woah woah woah he didn't cal anyone a kike so you're being a little sensitive aren't you? So far we haven't ticked off any pussyfooting around with stuff like 'but no I'm just saying there ARE a lot of Jews in Hollywood sooo' but I assume the it's a matter of time before he makes a comic about how the goddamn jew media is manipulating Uncle Sam and then we can hear some of that.  Also:  hmmmm There's a Guardian profile of Latuff in which he directly addresses charges of anti-semitism: quote:Not everyone has been so flattering. Since visiting the West Bank in 1999, Latuff has become known for his support of the Palestinian cause; some campaigners claim his work is antisemitic. "Part of the supposed 'evidence' for my antisemitism is the fact that I've used the Star of David, which is a symbol of Judaism," he says wearily. "But check all my artworks – you'll find that the Star of David is never drawn alone. It's always part of the Israeli flag. Yes, it's a religious motif, but in Israel it has been applied to a state symbol; and it's the institutions of the state – the politicians and the army – that I'm targeting. Including the flag of Israel in a cartoon is no more an attack on Judaism than including the flag of Turkey would be an attack on Islam."
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You know, just normal, not weird at all, accusations of being a race traitor from some rando in fuckin Brazil because he said he was maybe open to work with Israel to maybe end the constant slaughter of his people. e: Haha ok no seriously someone please explain how isn't just straight up Dees level antisemitism bullshit, without the excuse of legitimate brain problems? sexpig by night fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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Yeah, this one is also pretty bad. It does seem like most of these are older, so hopefully he's learned his lesson a little.
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Take $ Biting political commentary aimed at specific targets rather than a whole culture.
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If criticizing Israel is anti-semetism is criticizing Iran or Saudi Arabia being anti-islamic or does that matter
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Grapplejack posted:If criticizing Israel is anti-semetism is criticizing Iran or Saudi Arabia being anti-islamic or does that matter ANY DAY NOW Seriously though, nobody here is arguing any of this, at all
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Like it's got the nose and beard and the media control and says "take $," it's a bad and offensive cartoon.
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Grapplejack posted:If criticizing Israel is anti-semetism is criticizing Iran or Saudi Arabia being anti-islamic or does that matter Criticizing Saudi Arabia by drawing a big smelly bearded man in a turban with a curved sword to the neck of a white woman labeled WESTERN VALUES is super anti-Islamic though, it's almost as if there are ways to do things that change contexts?
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Okay this is really bad, I hadn't seen this before. I think his cartoons have gotten more nuanced since 2001 though. Has he ever addressed older cartoons like this about antisemitism the way he addressed his bad cartoon about feminism?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Take $ Latuff is just showing his support for Tupac is all.
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vyelkin posted:Okay this is really bad, I hadn't seen this before. I think his cartoons have gotten more nuanced since 2001 though. I'd say he has, with his constant depictions of Israel and/or the average Israeli as wimpy sissy men who shriek antisemitism at anyone who criticizes them and all.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Haha ok no seriously someone please explain how Tbf it reads more like 'Jewish Hollywood' being complicit in American militarism than a critique of Israel in any way, but I think he is definitely a believer in the idea of Jews controlling Hollywood and controlling output, which is edging towards Dees territory.  
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I agree that this is straight up antisemitic. Seems like Latuff has a bad case of "Hollywood Jews  "Are those post 9/11? I wouldn't be surprised if that was his reaction to 9/11.
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Holocaust 5 was a pretty good movie but it'll never top Holocaust 3: Holocaust Harder, that was just a classic in the many, many movies about this minor event we need to shut up about, that we keep shoving down the innocent consumer's throat. edit: Do I spy a 'zyklon-B' title scrawled on that shelf? Does Carlos have some opinions about wall stains to share? 
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I guess that was why LF liked him so much. And to think I kept trying to find him okay because everyone here kept saying how he actually isn't antisemetic at all. I was considering posting the flotilla octopus one before as evidence for thinking he might be antisemetic, but ended up not doing it because I was just so sure I was looking at it wrong. He's still nowhere close to actual modern day Nazis though.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Holocaust 5 was a pretty good movie but it'll never top Holocaust 3: Holocaust Harder, that was just a classic in the many, many movies about this minor event we need to shut up about, that we keep shoving down the innocent consumer's throat. "Good American Guys vs Bad Arabs Guys" is a terrible movie and Comrade Latuff is correct to bring to our attention the Jewish Hollywood conspiracy that finances and directs this filth. Seriously though, loving hell Latuff. This is what I get for tuning in only from 2006 onwards. I can only hope that he's not this dumb any more. In that other one I'm pretty sure Latuff isn't denying the use of zyklon-B, unless he also thinks the Waffen SS, Nazi party and Nuremberg were fictional.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I'd say he has, with his constant depictions of Israel and/or the average Israeli as wimpy sissy men who shriek antisemitism at anyone who criticizes them and all.    But yeah, he will also go the sissy coward route.  Fake edit: Holy poo poo  quote:Dear Mr. Baraka, quote:Who knew the World Trade Center was gonna get bombed Guys I think he might just be incredibly dense
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Yeah, saying that Latuff himself is Mr. Death levels of Holocaust denier based on very little is stretching it a bit, to say the least. e: but holy poo poo at him supporting that poem
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"Take $" Heh This is from 2001 though, he might have learned a thing or two over the last decade.
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Gilganixon posted:In that other one I'm pretty sure Latuff isn't denying the use of zyklon-B, unless he also thinks the Waffen SS, Nazi party and Nuremberg were fictional. Yea I know, it's just such a weird aside, like there ARE movies about Nazis and poo poo and I'm sure there must be at least a couple Nuremberg movies somehow but I only ever hear zyklon brought up by Dees types who talk about how there's no WAY they could have used it because something something Jeeeeeeeeews. And boy for someone with zero issues with Jews he sure slobbers on a lot of antisemitic knobs.
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It's an older cartoon, and Latuff has proven that he's capable of learning from his mistakes. They are Bad Cartoons, but comparing Latuff to Dees will never stop being adorable.
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Found the history behind the "jerk off" cartoon. it's a direct response to the following email:quote:------------ This is why you should never touch the poop.
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