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Pocket Billiards posted:The wrestling portion is very USA-centric, this a country that came 10th at the last world championships in Men's FS.  
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I think there might be way too much information in that OP. If you're going to put that much in, divide it up between a few posts. It comes across as a giant wall of text crashing over me. Can somebody explain the scoring system in wrestling for me? I was watching Foxcatcher and it was like "I spend a lot of time learning this sport but I don't know what's going on" because there's not much of a competitive wrestling scene down here. I understand that you win the match if you pin both shoulders to the ground, but not the point system. My coach won a bunch of state-level wrestling competitions and he doesn't know what the rules are either, he just outworked everybody, which shows you the standard of wrestling of wrestling in Australia I guess.
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Basics are: Less than 90 degree angle between the mat and your back with elbow or higher touching the mat is 'position of danger'. 'Par terre' is wrestling on the ground. 'Control' is holding someone from behind in par terre, when they have 3 points of contact with the mat (head, hands or knees). On the feet: Take someone from standing to position of danger - 4 points aka a throw. Take someone from standing to position of control, with no danger - 2 points aka takedown. Counter your opponents throw and put them into position of danger - 2 points. Push out of bounds - 1 point. Greco-Roman only, grand amplitude throw (opponents hips tracing an arc above the throwers head, land in position of danger like a suplex) - 5 points. In par terre: Put someone into position of danger - 2 points Hold them in position of danger 5 seconds - 1 additional point. Reversal on the ground (go from being controlled to controlling your opponent) - 1 point. In standing or par terre if you perform a successful technique but put yourself in a position of danger while doing it, your opponent gets 1 point. Win by pin, more points after end of 2x3min rounds or get a 10 point lead.
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I am learning some stuff from these posts and appreciate the effort, thanks for retooling it just as I discover this is a place to read at all
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Here is a link to a shared google drive document on the full OP. If you want to contribute, please edit there. I will try to curate and edit to keep it consistent. I can work on this until Saturday, then I am on vacation. So we can post the new thread before I go or we can finish up when I return. Please post here to let me know if you edit the doc and what section, so I don't miss anything. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LsoUx0i1UnlzgqpNQFV2CehzmR0RlK7IaD_4S58mxY8/edit?usp=sharing link is in in OP too in case we lose this post.
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Xguard86 posted:Here is a link to a shared google drive document on the full OP. If you want to contribute, please edit there. I will try to curate and edit to keep it consistent. I can work on this until Saturday, then I am on vacation. So we can post the new thread before I go or we can finish up when I return. Working on some relevant information for the BJJ section. It's already outsized compared to the rest, so feel free to edit it down. Unless of course someone want to do a write up of notable wrestlers and Judoka.
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It might be a good idea to do an OP that's a general grappling, intro to the thread, and some discussion of how to find schools in your area and how to find/watch both local and professional tourneys, then reserve several posts right after the OP for anyone that wants to do a detailed writeup on a specific style, which they can then post and their quoted post can be edited into the reserved post.
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Pocket Billiards posted:Basics are: Thanks for this!
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Crosspost: So I'm a 4 month white belt with no tabs. Been told there's a grading in a couple weeks. I assume this is where tabs are given out. What should I expect in a grading?
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Grading is typically assessed based on your ability to sweep your opponent onto concrete.
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Different approaches from school to school. The first place I trained at has a big night every 3 months where it's just two hours of open rolling and socialising, but if people were getting big promotions (blue, purple, brown, black) they'd have to do a brutal gauntlet and roll with ten or more fresh people in a row, then at the end of it the instructor gives you your belt. They've already decided you deserve it beforehand, though. My current place don't bother, they just randomly give out promotions at the end of regular classes whenever the coach feels like it. But then we do whip people who get big promotions with our belts, which is just as homoerotic as it sounds (and it really hurts too.) In either case, you needn't worry about tabs/stripes at all, you won't be tested or anything like that, they're just to encourage you to keep coming really.
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ICHIBAHN posted:Crosspost: So I'm a 4 month white belt with no tabs. Been told there's a grading in a couple weeks. I assume this is where tabs are given out. What should I expect in a grading? At the gym I go to, the instructor just watches (and rolls with) you over time, and a few times a year does promotions where he hands out belts and stripes. It's few and far between, so multiple stripes are often given at once. There is no formal grading system, other than noticed skill level.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/far-out-astronomers-say-two-unknown-planets-may-lurk-beyond-n287856 eddie bravo vindicated, 10th planet only real jiu jitsu
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Captain Log posted:My instructor recently promoted another Brazilian to purple and Jesus lord we whipped the poo poo out of him with our belts. what?
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I'm actually part of a anti hazing task force in the school district that I teach and boy howdy are belt promotions a conflict of interest. Shrug Doesn't stop me from swinging, though.
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Marching Powder posted:what? When this dude got promoted to purple belt everyone from the little kids to the big guys got to whip him with their belts. It looked like it hurt but was all in good fun and everyone was laughing. P.S. Brazilians are insane.
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I said it in IRC but for the thread: I'm down to 161, doing a test cut next weekend to see how easy it is for me to hit 155 There's a local event in May that I talked to my coach and said I'd like to fight on, so we're working towards that I hosed up some and started drinking again which has made dieting a bit of a bitch but hey, there might be another goon retard having an ammy fight soon
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Yuriy posted:I said it in IRC but for the thread: Should be pretty easy. I float in that range too. You just need to watch your diet the week before.
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cptInsane0 posted:Should be pretty easy. I float in that range too. You just need to watch your diet the week before. I wrestled in high school at 170 but never really cut weight so this will be my first cut of any sort, not really stressing over it but I'm at 3 days of not being high every waking hour and I hate it and dieting sucks and god I loving hate this and the semester starts back up on Tuesday
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Yuriy posted:I wrestled in high school at 170 but never really cut weight so this will be my first cut of any sort, not really stressing over it but I'm at 3 days of not being high every waking hour and I hate it and dieting sucks and god I loving hate this and the semester starts back up on Tuesday Now now, let's not be too hasty about "not being high all the time." It works for Eddie Bravo.
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Drug addiction is the best base for BJJ
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Opal posted:Drug addiction is the best base for BJJ It gets you prepared for the rolling high.
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Kekekela posted:We had a pretty cool blue belt given out today... I had no idea you trained with Palhares.
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Novum posted:I had no idea you trained with Palhares. lol
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Opal posted:Drug addiction is the best base for BJJ
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Novum posted:I had no idea you trained with Palhares. 
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Kekekela posted:We had a pretty cool blue belt given out today... Do you guys have a vid with this guy rolling? I'd be interested in seeing how he manages.
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Odddzy posted:Do you guys have a vid with this guy rolling? I'd be interested in seeing how he manages. I'll see what I can find, I've started training at a different location so I usually only see him at stuff like this now. Just anecdotally though, its pretty cool, they (instructors) theory-craft with him a lot coming up with stuff that works for him (or even takes advantage of his missing arm/leg), its not like they just throw him in class and see how well he can emulate what everyone else does.
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Dude is awesome. His knee on belly must be murder. 
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Is he able to do triangles effectively? I know taking a limb out of play when rolling can lead to some neat sub opportunities and unusual things you're suddenly not vulnerable to, others more - I would love to see a vid of him rolling too though I doubt he'd appreciate it, really curious how he's making it work for him. It's awesome that you can get past nearly injury and still do what you'd like, if circumstances are right and you have the will. edit Palhares joke lmao Agreed fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Jan 19, 2015 |
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General Emergency posted:Dude is awesome. His knee on belly must be murder. Again anecdotally since I'm not over there that much anymore, but from the strategy sessions I've overheard it definitely does not sounds like he's got any qualms about using his metal with ill-intent. 
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Kekekela posted:Again anecdotally since I'm not over there that much anymore, but from the strategy sessions I've overheard it definitely does not sounds like he's got any qualms about using his metal with ill-intent. I'm kind of surprised the gym would allow him to keep the prosthetics on while rolling. That seems like a bad idea.
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Thoguh posted:I'm kind of surprised the gym would allow him to keep the prosthetics on while rolling. That seems like a bad idea. We had an Iraq vet with no left leg beneath the knee at my old gym and he rolled without the prosthetic. Dude had incredible hip-bump sweeps and could bridge with a ferocious amount of force. His whole game was built around deep half from the bottom and heavy side control on top.
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