DrBouvenstein posted:

The_White_Crane posted:

Hold on, those models are considered "plus sized"?

Not My Leg posted:

That's just, weird. I mean, good on them for using plus sized models, but why claim they are such an unrealistic size? For context, a US Size 32 correlates to a 51.5 inch waist and a 64.5 inch hip measurement. The average women's waistline in the US (a country known for being overweight) is about 38 inches, nearly two feet smaller than the claimed waistline of the models. Levis claiming that these women are average, they're claiming that they're morbidly obese.

Tracula posted:

You know, my mother and aunt always buy mens pants because then they actually know what the real loving size is as opposed to whatever gibberish women's sizes are.

kazil posted:

The sizes on men's pants aren't uniform either

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

"Not uniform" in the case of men's clothing usually means "off-spec" rather than "I have no idea why I'm a 12 in this brand but a 14 in this other one and a 6 in this other one", though.

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Anything larger than "straight sizes," usually 0 to 10 or 12, is technically "plus size." This is confounded by the fact that no two clothing brands have the same sizing, and generally the more expensive clothing is the smaller it will run (or the less it will be size-inflated, actually). And in modeling industry terms, a Plus Size Model is a girl bigger than sample sizes, which are 0-2. If a model has hips and breasts in real life (i.e. not slapped on in photoshop), odds are her agency lists her as plus size.

Size inflation is a whole other Dumb Move in Marketing, but that might not be right for this thread.


A size 32 is a waist measurement, it correlates to a size 10/12. Nitwit.

HonorableTB posted:

When I buy men's jeans, I do have to take brand into account. For Levis, I need a 36 but for Wranglers and some other brands, I need a 38. One pair of khakis I bought I needed a loving 40 because they were a perfect fit in the waist but my thighs felt like they were being strangled by a boa constrictor. This is why I buy like four pairs of jeans per year and just keep wearing those. It's hard to find jeans that are comfortable, especially since I prefer my pants to be on the slightly baggy side because I do a lot of walking, bending, and lifting so I prefer the extra mobility.

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

Right, but I mean it in terms of the listed numbers being off what they're supposed to mean rather than something that you have to look up by brand to figure out what their particular sizing chart even means, and that chart not being consistent or meaningful outside of that brand.

RonMexicosPitbull posted:

The person is just wishing you well dude they aren't trying to convert you. Same with "I'll pray for them" when someone is in the hospital it just means that you're in their thoughts and want you to be well. Theres nothing sinister about it.

Not My Leg posted:

I was led astray by the linked article, which took issue with the models being called "size 32" and referenced them as actually being size 12-16 in standard US women's sizes. You are correct though, Levis (online at least) apparently lists its women's jeans by waist size. This is not true of all jeans brands, but I could have verified.

13Pandora13 posted:

You also could have looked at the ad and realized that a 32 in US women's sizing would be all of those women smushed together into one giant hambeast.

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

You've clearly never red a periodical put out by a church. The letters to the editor are always full of people ever-so-gently criticizing some article or previous letter for it's impure or biblical basis. As everyone has to pretend they're all in one big Jesus loving communion the letters always include some form of "I'll pray for you" which is code for "burn in hell heretic filth" .

twistedmentat posted:

I'd love to read an insiders view of the early days of the Ps3 just to understand what the gently caress they were thinking with its marketing. Show games? On a video game console? Hell no! We need to make it an accessory in an Aphex Twin video.

Then there is the long rear end European short film that features a bunch of weirdos in a hotel, that features a guy jerking off to a footy game. You'd think it was just a strange short film, but it was a PS3 ad. Its like the ad agency got all their money up front and gave it to someones nephew who thought they were going to be the next Jodowosky and let him go hog wild.

twistedmentat posted:

I'd love to read an insiders view of the early days of the Ps3 just to understand what the gently caress they were thinking with its marketing. Show games? On a video game console? Hell no! We need to make it an accessory in an Aphex Twin video.

Then there is the long rear end European short film that features a bunch of weirdos in a hotel, that features a guy jerking off to a footy game. You'd think it was just a strange short film, but it was a PS3 ad. Its like the ad agency got all their money up front and gave it to someones nephew who thought they were going to be the next Jodowosky and let him go hog wild.

twistedmentat posted:

I'd love to read an insiders view of the early days of the Ps3 just to understand what the gently caress they were thinking with its marketing. Show games? On a video game console? Hell no! We need to make it an accessory in an Aphex Twin video.

Then there is the long rear end European short film that features a bunch of weirdos in a hotel, that features a guy jerking off to a footy game. You'd think it was just a strange short film, but it was a PS3 ad. Its like the ad agency got all their money up front and gave it to someones nephew who thought they were going to be the next Jodowosky and let him go hog wild.

Tracula posted:

You know, my mother and aunt always buy mens pants because then they actually know what the real loving size is as opposed to whatever gibberish women's sizes are.

hyperhazard posted:

The one that takes the cake is Chico's. My mother loves to shop there because they size all of their pants 0-4. So you could have a 40 inch waist and still be a size 3.

Parasol Prophet posted:

Lots of women's plus-size lines seem to do this. Off the top of my head I can think of Torrid, Maurice's, Target's plus section, and I think maybe Lane Bryant and Old Navy on shirts and stuff. They start at 0 and go up to 4 or 5, because I guess we ladies simply can't abide buying clothes with a number higher than 16 on them or something.

Of course, they then have to put up signs explaining the weird sizing system like "Sz 0 = 14/16; Sz 1 = 18/20," etc. So that kind of defeats the purpose a little.

insufficient guns posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW8d4oZ_UCE


Still can't decide if this one was dumb or genius.

-CHA posted:

Looking at a website for a restaurant you are curious about going to? If they identify as family friendly be prepared to be bombarded by pictures of kids being messy eaters.



This might be up for debate, but does identifying your restaurant with stuff like this really make people want to eat there?

insufficient guns posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW8d4oZ_UCE


Still can't decide if this one was dumb or genius.

Rare Collectable posted:

It should be noted this is the updated, less copy-right infringing version of his Cashman persona. The first time he tried to run these ads he wore a fake Supeman outfit, resulting in a fair bit of legal trouble. Since I cant find the original ad heres him being interviewed in the costume. Used to go by this guys place on my way to and from high school so its pretty hard to forget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg0z9kMjgdM

Halloween Jack posted:

The worst advertising for businesses wanting to buy gold is that there are so goddamn many of them. If whatever they're doing with my old jewelry is so profitable that a dozen storefronts have opened for that express purpose, perhaps I should hang onto it.

El Estrago Bonito posted:

Basically whenever video game companies start becoming massive industry leaders they buy into the idea that since so many people liked what they did in the past they will like whatever they do because of the simple fact that they are doing it. But then the buying public has to remind them that they aren't loving David Bowie, they are a goddamn electronics supplier and no amount of horrendous "play it loud" style acid trips will make them cool enough to make the products not matter. Nintendo is basically the only videogame company that this has worked for and thats because they didn't try push it, they leveraged their properties that people loved (Mario, Zelda, etc) and said basically "those will be the same, but please trust us on this other poo poo" (IE motion control). Whether as Sony took a dominant #1 position in the market and instead of just trying to repeat what they had done previously (wide range of games of all different genres and types at many different price points or "the everymans gaming machine") they went for a strange artsy "premium product for cool adults" thing that put them way behind everyone else until they went back to pricing reasonably and investing in good games.

Wandle Cax posted:

Nice theory except they were doing weird commercials even in the ps2 days which was by far the dominant console on the market.

e.g. this one by David Lynch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=168IdTntlwA

ToxicSlurpee posted:

They've been popping up all over since the recession because so many people are so unbelievably desperate they're willing to sell that ring that's been in the family for generations or their wedding bands. Gold buyers are rip off artists that are giving you direct cash sure but it's at a fraction of what it's actually valued at. They also pop up constantly because their business model relies heavily on not being around long. If you ever found that you had the money to get that heirloom back you'll find that the gold buying place closed shop after existing for a few months and is impossible to track down now. Worse if you did actually get scammed by them (what, gold is only like $100 an ounce right now! I'm serious!) then you have no recourse as the businesses just up and vanish very regularly.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

They've been popping up all over since the recession because so many people are so unbelievably desperate they're willing to sell that ring that's been in the family for generations or their wedding bands. Gold buyers are rip off artists that are giving you direct cash sure but it's at a fraction of what it's actually valued at. They also pop up constantly because their business model relies heavily on not being around long. If you ever found that you had the money to get that heirloom back you'll find that the gold buying place closed shop after existing for a few months and is impossible to track down now. Worse if you did actually get scammed by them (what, gold is only like $100 an ounce right now! I'm serious!) then you have no recourse as the businesses just up and vanish very regularly.