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Fast Luck posted:I wouldn't mind seeing him get a legit chance to start. JT Barrett is great, probably more polished, but Cardale's ability to flick it 50 yards down the field really seemed to open the offense up. I figure if Cardale starts for a season, he'll definitely jump pro if he succeeds, and then Barrett is your starter again, or if he fails, Barrett is your starter again. I'd like to see Barrett get some run even if he's the backup, though. Swap QBs for a play here and there, or run some sets with both of them. Braxton should obviously transfer. Honestly, the parallel I came up with was a Leak/Tebow kind of dynamic. Barrett is really good playing short and intermediate and is arguably a more polished passer in the Leak mold. Cardale is a truck with a cannon like Tebow. Is it a perfect comparison? No. But you could easily get them both a lot of snaps that way.
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So Urbz celebrates the end of the tattoo-related sanctions by promising to get a tattoo, now this... @TheFakeLantern: Cardale Jones, Legend, Skips Class To Announce He's Returning To Class
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That's true. But the difference in salary between a round 1/2 guy and a round 6/7 guy is really significant. I think if you're Cardale, you have to trust in yourself and your abilities to go out and win the starting job next year. edit: or this TheGreyGhost posted:Honestly, the parallel I came up with was a Leak/Tebow kind of dynamic. Barrett is really good playing short and intermediate and is arguably a more polished passer in the Leak mold. Cardale is a truck with a cannon like Tebow. Is it a perfect comparison? No. But you could easily get them both a lot of snaps that way. Either way, there's no way that Meyer doesn't give him snaps. Komet fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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Cardale's roommate with a hot take. 
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korrandark posted:Cardale's roommate with a hot take. Haha, I love this drat team.
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Komet posted:Someone might take a chance and draft Cardale in the lower rounds, but he could start next year and improve his stock pretty dramatically. You would have to be a damned idiot to draft a Urban Meyer qb in the 1st round.
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Winkie01 posted:You would have to be a damned idiot to draft a Urban Meyer qb in the 1st round. So... you know. Everyone should keep that all in mind.
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JT Jag posted:Alex Smith is probably the best NFL prospect he will ever produce. And from what I've heard, most of that was really down to Dan Mullen.
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Eltoasto posted:Alex Smith is also better than 95% of qb's drafted in any given year.
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JT Jag posted:It also took him four whole years before he became even close to a serviceable starting quarterback, six years before he became 'kinda good'. Meyer QBs aren't NFL ready out of the box. I agree. I think declaring was the best decision. But I can't be upset for wanting to stay in school and troll the media.
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korrandark posted:Cardale's roommate with a hot take. god damnit, i'm not supposed to like a player on loving Ohio State.
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Eltoasto posted:Alex Smith is also better than 95% of qb's drafted in any given year. Yeah, you can thank Jim Harbaugh for the reason that Alex Smith is still in the NFL, too.
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Regnevelc posted:Yeah, you can thank Jim Harbaugh for the reason that Alex Smith is still in the NFL, too. I'll try to slip that in while thanking him for making Luck good.
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Eltoasto posted:I'll try to slip that in while thanking him for making Luck good. 
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Shane Morris future NFL superstar??? I don't think Morris starts next year. I think it'll be Wilton Speight.
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JT Jag posted:Meyer and the offensive system he runs does absolutely nothing to prepare quarterbacks for the NFL. Never has, never will, and he is absolutely unapologetic for it. Alex Smith is probably the best NFL prospect he will ever produce. I mean, the top teams in college ball right now in general aren't on a great run with QBs especially those programs winning championships or contending recently. Bama has given the world John Parker Wilson, McElroy, and McCarron. USC gave us Leinart, Booty, Sanchez, and Barkley. LSU...hahahahaha. Texas gave us Young and McCoy. FSU is counting on Winston to correct a string of busts in Manuel, Ponder, Lee. Florida under Meyer had Leak then Tebow then Brantley. Georgia had Stafford surrounded by a bunch of busts around him. Ohio State has had Smith and Pryor surrounded by the awfulness of Zwick, Boeckman, and Bauserman. Oregon gave us Masoli and Darron Thomas...lol Oklahoma has given us Bradford, Jones, and a serious of miserable busts otherwise Auburn gave us Newton and a bunch of garbage The only teams on that list that have given us a QB with any staying power are Georgia (Stafford) and Auburn (Newton), both in polar opposite systems. The best rookie QB of the last decade at least came from Stanford of all places. The best QBs in the NFL right now come from Tennessee, Michigan, Cal, Eastern Illinois, Wisconsin, Stanford, NC State, Purdue, Boston College, Ole Miss, Nevada, USC (Palmer haha), Delaware, Texas A&M (Tannehill), TCU, and maybe Baylor? Maybe Alex Smith from Utah is up there? The fact is, successful college systems are concerned with winning in college not merely NFL prep. And making it as a QB in the NFL is a crap shoot as is. All these traditional powers have been basically a graveyard of pro QBs.
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Mahoning posted:If Cardale gets a college degree it will be the most Counterpoint: 
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thing ever. The story about him in Sports Illustrated really made me like him a lot. I know a ton of CFB players come from poverty but his story really got to me. Maybe because he's from NE Ohio.
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Detroit_Dogg posted:He's right tho Yeah, gently caress ohio state, and he's an idiot for saying that publicly, but he's not wrong. Granted, 18 year old kid saying a dumb thing on twitter is pretty "film at 11" at this point.
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Thoguh posted:Counterpoint: That's actually partly why I like him.....he seems to have come a long way since then.
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Groucho Marxist posted:urban meyer makes rad college qbs which is way cooler and more important Yeah this. I'd rather watch college Tommie Frazier or Vince Young than NFL Peyton Manning or Tom Brady any day.
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Komet posted:Are we sure Cardale Jones isn't a 40 year old man?
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TheGreyGhost posted:he best QBs in the NFL right now come from Tennessee, Michigan, Cal, Eastern Illinois, Wisconsin, Stanford, NC State, Purdue, Boston College, Ole Miss, Nevada, USC (Palmer haha), Delaware, Texas A&M (Tannehill), TCU, and maybe Baylor? Maybe Alex Smith from Utah is up there? The fact is, successful college systems are concerned with winning in college not merely NFL prep. And making it as a QB in the NFL is a crap shoot as is. All these traditional powers have been basically a graveyard of pro QBs. Miami of Ohio, the native land of the Roethlisberger, who is statistically absurd for reasons that will never make any sense.
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Josh Cribbs and Julian Edelman are both having phenomenal careers and they're both MAC quarterbacks.
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Detroit_Dogg posted:He's going to go down as one of the best kick returners to ever play, that's a pretty dang good career. Maybe if he didn't play at the same time as Hester he would, but he is going to be overshadowed by him.
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