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Duckbag posted:I find it funny how many people are making the "too late the cartoonists already hosed them all" jokes vs. the "here's your virgins" jokes. Combined with the various CH cartoons' references to "semen" and "babes" it gives me the unsettling impression that European cartoonists might actually get laid once in a while. Wolinsky has a daughter, Cabu had a son who died before him, and Tignous -- who also worked for role-playing game magazines! -- has four children... I don't know about Honoré. Charb refused to have kids because of the death threats.
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Jurgan posted:This morning there was chat about Latuff. I went to school, came home, and saw nearly 300 posts had been added to the thread. I didn't feel like all that, so I skipped to the last page. People are still arguing about Latuff. Well done, goons. The problem with talking about Latuff and anti-semitism is that you'll never convince his fans for the exact same reason you never convince a Tea Partier that a badly photoshopped inbox picture of Obama as a witch doctor or pimp is racist.
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TetsuoTW posted:Latuff is good not because he's right, but because he's really good at his craft. In that case, Ramirez is the best there is. he does exactly what his employers want.
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TetsuoTW posted:Also how in the gently caress is this thread already nearly 100 pages just two weeks into the year?
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Jesus, is Latuff going to have to go on the Weather Vane List now?Attitude Indicator posted:In that case, Ramirez is the best there is. he does exactly what his employers want. e: Rorus Raz posted:I post way the gently caress too much
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Rorus Raz posted:I post way the gently caress too much Yeah, you are definitely not the problem here. Internet Webguy posted:
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TetsuoTW posted:I kinda feel like Allie could just about be a good cartoonist if he were less spiteful and willfully dense, actually. Allie is a good artist which is why he's such a tragedy.
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The Insect Court posted:The problem with talking about Latuff and anti-semitism is that you'll never convince his fans for the exact same reason you never convince a Tea Partier that a badly photoshopped inbox picture of Obama as a witch doctor or pimp is racist. This works both ways, of course.
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Je Suis Juif Time for Europe's Jews to come home to Israel. Time for Europeans to understand that they are being attacked by an Islamist civilization that is bent on destroying them. Labels: 2015, Aliyah, antisemitism, Europe, France, Islamists, Israel, je suis charlie, Jews, Paris, terror, terror attacks
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The Insect Court posted:The problem with talking about Latuff and anti-semitism is that you'll never convince his fans for the exact same reason you never convince a Tea Partier that a badly photoshopped inbox picture of Obama as a witch doctor or pimp is racist. Why don't you think photoshopping Obama into a witch doctor/pimp is racist? Even if we were to ignore the overtly racist elements of those depictions on their own, Obama grew up in Honolulu and Jakarta and spent his entire adult life in academia and politics. He has no cultural connections to African tribal culture or inner city crime, so any association with either would be based entirely on his skin color. That's the textbook definition of racism.
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TetsuoTW posted:Also how in the gently caress is this thread already nearly 100 pages just two weeks into the year? Did you miss the killings of those cartoonists last week?
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JaggerMcDagger posted:Je Suis Juif People are literally killing islamic innocents in retaliation for the attack and Kirschen is still wringing his hands saying "More. MORE!" I mean goddamn, man.
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JaggerMcDagger posted:Je Suis Juif Cartoons like this this, and the fact that Netanyahu forced his way into the march even when asked specifically by Hollande not to attend, is not going to win Israel any sympathy points within Europe. How can some of these people be so far up their own rear end? I'm glad the French-Jewish assemble Netanyahu decided to give his little fear-mongering speech to decided to tell him just what they thought of his "suggestion" by singing La Marseillaise.
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Kurtofan posted:His call for Jews to leave Europe is pretty gross, it's funny how antisemites and ultra-zionists often have the same goal for different reasons. A lot of anti-semites admire the goals of ultra-zionists - a national project based on blood, soil, land and religion in which everyone has to militarily participate? loving wet dream of people like Brevik.
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The Insect Court posted:The problem with talking about Latuff and anti-semitism is that you'll never convince his fans for the exact same reason you never convince a Tea Partier that a badly photoshopped inbox picture of Obama as a witch doctor or pimp is racist. Yeah that was basically my response upon seeing this post Post 9-11 User posted:Found this while cleaning up old files, presented here because the understanding of what Antisemitism looks like seems to have been lost. "  This cartoon about how black people stranded in post-Katrina New Orleans were just too stupid to flee isn't racist, it's just stating the facts! In case you forgot, this is what racism ACTUALLY looks like *Youtube clip of person saying 'I hate all black people because of their blackness and am stating this unequivocally; I assure you this is not a joke'*"Kurtofan posted:His call for Jews to leave Europe is pretty gross, it's funny how antisemites and ultra-zionists often have the same goal for different reasons. I'm 100% sure that Kirschen and people like him unironically want anti-Semitic attacks to go through the roof in Europe because it'll drive aliyah. People becoming so terrified that they have to flee their home country to avoid getting murdered or having their property destroyed is worth it in his eyes for just a liiiiiittle more control over demographics.
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Stormageddon posted:People are literally killing islamic innocents in retaliation for the attack and Kirschen is still wringing his hands saying "More. MORE!" I mean goddamn, man. I can't believe you could say such an antisemitic thing.
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JaggerMcDagger posted:Je Suis Juif So Jews are under threat in Europe so they should come to Israel? But according to Kirschen's comics Israel is constantly under threat from his overblown boogeyman.
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Stormageddon posted:People are literally killing islamic innocents in retaliation for the attack and Kirschen is still wringing his hands saying "More. MORE!" I mean goddamn, man. What are you referring to?
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The Insect Court posted:The problem with talking about Latuff and anti-semitism is that you'll never convince his fans for the exact same reason you never convince a Tea Partier that a badly photoshopped inbox picture of Obama as a witch doctor or pimp is racist. Actually the problem is worthless posts like this that aren't based in reality.
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JaggerMcDagger posted:Je Suis Juif The one time I actually agree with a Kirchen. Of all the people killed in the attacks, there were only one group who was targeted due to their ethnicity, the jews. Every media outlet I've seen has heavily leaned on the cartoonists and asked themselves what this could mean for muslims in Europe, but there was an actual antisemitic attack. Antisemitic attacks have increased in France for a long time and record amounts of french jews are moving to Israel. The only thing people learned from the attacks are that free speech are under threat, not that the jews in France/Europe are being hunted down. I think that's important to point out. As much as the Charlie Hedbo attack were a symbol of the threat to free speech, the attack on the kocher supermarket were a symbol of the growing antisemitism in Europe. EDIT: I don't agree that jews should move to Isreal, I agree that the jewish attacks in Paris has been overlooked.
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Flaskraven posted:I think that's important to point out. As much as the Charlie Hedbo attack were a symbol of the threat to free speech, the attack on the kocher supermarket were a symbol of the growing antisemitism in Europe. I'm pretty sure the attack on the supermarket was attributable to the constant and eternal anti-semitism within radical islamism. That's a pretty separate issue from why more right wing and left wing non-radical islamists have been beating up Jews and loving up synagogues: stupid lefties who seem to think it's some kind of smart way to protest Israel, far right groups who are on the rise. etc.
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Stormageddon posted:People are literally killing islamic innocents in retaliation for the attack Can you link me the news on this? I've been looking for muslims being murdered in France in response to the Hebdo killings.
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Disinterested posted:I'm pretty sure the attack on the supermarket was attributable to the constant and eternal anti-semitism within radical islamism. That's a pretty separate issue from why more right wing and left wing non-radical islamists have been beating up Jews and loving up synagogues: stupid lefties who seem to think it's some kind of smart way to protest Israel, far right groups who are on the rise. etc. So, its the fault of "stupid lefties" that anti-Semites attack Jewish folks? E: spacetoaster posted:Can you link me the news on this? I've been looking for muslims being murdered in France in response to the Hebdo killings. Article doesn't mention fatalities, but definitely some hate going on. Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jan 16, 2015 |
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JaggerMcDagger posted:Je Suis Juif You're not "the Jews", you fuckhead. You're just SOME Jews.
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Wales Grey posted:So, its the fault of "stupid lefties" that anti-Semites attack Jewish folks? DnD argument process: 1. take view of person 2. interpret it in the manner most offensive and ridiculous to you as possible, regardless of how this relates to what the person said 3. proceed to attack straw man. No, dumbass, that is not what I said. I was saying that some 'stupid lefties' are part of the rising tide of anti-semites. If you're a left wing anti-semite you're stupid by definition - any kind, really. Anti-semitism isn't the exclusive property of any one group in politics. There is such a thing as left anti-semitism. I think it's probably the least problematic form, but it's real. Disinterested fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jan 16, 2015 |
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Someone should pay Gerald Scarfe to do a fully animated film that's a couple of minutes long abstractly depicting the I/P conflict, with the caveat that it has to be at least as disturbing as that monstrous vagina dentata flower from The Wall. Or that he just has to animate this thread's argument on Latuff.
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It is January 16, 2015, and this is the second, "Obama is a Muslim" comic by a published cartoonist. The previous one flat out said that Obama is the prophet of Islam. New category? loquacius posted:" Saying, "corralling people behind giant prison walls and occasionally slaughtering them en mass may be morally wrong" is racist reminds me of, "murdering citizens may be bad policy" means DeBlazio hates police. Hail Satan. 
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Post 9-11 User posted:Saying, "corralling people behind giant prison walls and occasionally slaughtering them en mass may be morally wrong" is racist reminds me of, "murdering citizens may be bad policy" means DeBlazio hates police. I agree! Whoever said that should be ashamed of themselves!
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