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Disinterested posted:Parsing my old university reading list, these seem to be the most relevant items: Xotl posted:Beasley, W.G. Japanese Imperialism, 1894–1945. Oxford University Press, 1987. Thanks, I'll take a look at all of these! The MilHist thread is still the best thread for awesome quick responses.
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HEY GAL posted:I think we say that for anyone who's been in the military. A Veteran is specifically someone who has served in a combat zone. But for free food at TGIF on veterans day there's no real way to prove that so it's just anyone in the military.
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Rhymenoserous posted:A Veteran is specifically someone who has served in a combat zone. But for free food at TGIF on veterans day there's no real way to prove that so it's just anyone in the military. In the US at least “veteran” is legally defined as a “person who served in the active military, naval, or air service, and who was discharged or released therefrom under conditions other than dishonorable.” There's no proviso for combat.
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Rhymenoserous posted:A Veteran is specifically someone who has served in a combat zone. I don't think that's how it works in current US political nomenclature though. And here in the NL there was a smallish push to get Cold Warriors included on Veteranendag as well; together with the 'real' WW2, the DEI, and Korea ones and those 'fakers' who did UN peacekeeping who are already included. e: also, what is a combat zone? An airconditioned trailer in Arizona? Koesj fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jan 16, 2015 |
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bewbies posted:In the US at least “veteran” is legally defined as a “person who served in the active military, naval, or air service, and who was discharged or released therefrom under conditions other than dishonorable.” There's no proviso for combat. To be fair, the US has an unhealthy degree of militarism, one of the features of which seems to be hailing all military personnel like warfighters.
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To be fair, it's probably to let them get some benefits after their discharge.
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Tevery Best posted:To be fair, it's probably to let them get some benefits after their discharge. You mean entitlements.
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Basically it is whatever the president says (this is for tax and pay purposes) . Right now it is most of the middle east, for example. Tias posted:To be fair, the US has an unhealthy degree of militarism, one of the features of which seems to be hailing all military personnel like warfighters. Aren't all military personnel "warfighters" or am I missing something?
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The vast majority never see combat and just sit behind a desk/do menial jobs on the domestic end of the supply chain/fix planes etc AFAIK. It's like that with practically every army but only Americans seem to get excited if they find out someone changed oil on humvees for the government.
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Tias posted:To be fair, the US has an unhealthy degree of militarism, one of the features of which seems to be hailing all military personnel like warfighters. Every time I go to the States (from Canada) I'm always struck by how common military folks are. My family is from a town just outside CFB Valcartier, so I'm used to seeing guys in combat fatigues wandering about, but the US just seems to have a much higher concentration of that; the airports especially, there seems to be guys in uniform all over the place, and lots of announcements about USO Lounges or something. Is it common for American servicemen to wear their fatigues while on work travel or something? Conversely, when I was actually on a military base, I was surprised that I saw like zero firearms. Just the pistols that the gate guards had. Lots of jets flying around though, and I learned that an F-35 is gently caress-off loud. Noticeably louder than F-15's and -16s. Someone should invent an AMRAAM style missile, inertially guided out to a certain area, and then blow up the loudest thing you can find. That might break down if the aircraft goes supersonic though?
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bewbies posted:Basically it is whatever the president says (this is for tax and pay purposes) . Right now it is most of the middle east, for example. See Slavvys post below yours. There's a higher tendency in the US (I am told, I have never been, so take it with a grain of salt) to worship those who serve as heroes, even if they never deployed to a combat zone.
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PittTheElder posted:Conversely, when I was actually on a military base, I was surprised that I saw like zero firearms. The US has pretty strict gear control. A single rifle going missing can be enough to cause an entire battalion to be locked down until it's found. It's a bit of a different place than say the army in the 80's where a crate of grenades could fall of a truck and someone would just write it off.
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PittTheElder posted:Is it common for American servicemen to wear their fatigues while on work travel or something?
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Depending on the type of travel military members may be required to travel in uniform.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Depending on the type of travel military members may be required to travel in uniform. What kind of travel would this be? I remember in Canada after the Parliament Hill shooting, soldiers were advised not to wear their uniforms in public.
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Kaal posted:Is "trupp" the equivalent of the American "fireteam" (i.e. 1/2 or 1/3 a squad)? Trupp is usually between 5-12 people, several troops are a Zug (not much to do with trains) which is a pretty direct platoon equivalent. There is also stuff like "Panzerabwehrtrupp" which can be as low as 2 (whoever can move and has a Panzerfaust) if poo poo hits the fan. "Truppe" is not to be confused with "Trupp". "Truppe" is a way more general term. You can for example say "Panzergrenadiertruppe" and mean all Panzergrenadiers in the Bundeswehr, but "Panzergrenadiertrupp" is pretty specifically what fits inside of one marder/Puma minus the driver and gunner.
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Chamale posted:What kind of travel would this be? I remember in Canada after the Parliament Hill shooting, soldiers were advised not to wear their uniforms in public. Basically the guy in charge of branch x steps out of his porch one morning licks his thumb and sticks it up in the air and goes "Yes... the wind is blowing north west today so therefore soldiers traveling for duty must dress for duty during their travels." If he's particularly sadistic he'll then amend "In their dress uniforms". Then he shall step back into his house laughing at the annoyance he has caused by making an arbitrary change for arbitrary reasons and write it down in his leadership book as that time he "Shook things up in order to provide proper morale and or discipline in American fighting units."
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Concerning Japan in Manchuria, I found it remarkable that 3 of the Soviet Unions best commanders served in that area prior to WW2. Zhukovs participation in Kalkin Gol is well known, Chuikov of Stalingrad (and a ton of other places) fan was partly in charge of Operation Zet, and Rokosovsky also had a position I believe in the Far East. Some NKVD fucks them claimed Rokosovsky was a Japanese spy because he encouraged his radio interceptors to learn Japanese...
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Chamale posted:What kind of travel would this be? I remember in Canada after the Parliament Hill shooting, soldiers were advised not to wear their uniforms in public. Rhymenoserous posted:Basically the guy in charge of branch x steps out of his porch one morning licks his thumb and sticks it up in the air and goes "Yes... the wind is blowing north west today so therefore soldiers traveling for duty must dress for duty during their travels."
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Mightypeon posted:several troops are a Zug (not much to do with trains)... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORNOFGZgi2w
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Tias posted:See Slavvys post below yours. There's a higher tendency in the US (I am told, I have never been, so take it with a grain of salt) to worship those who serve as heroes, even if they never deployed to a combat zone. Its becoming more and more prevalent in Norway/Europe too. I see people with those yellow ribbon pins with inlaid Norwegian flags a lot, and, I poo poo you not, a guy in his late fifties, early sixties came up to me and thanked me for my service and for doing 'my part' . (I travel in uniform a fair bit and have for some years, and its only in the last few years this ribbon thing has started up).
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So this is actually a question for a friend. I think it's something to do with a roleplay he's involved in. I told him I'd submit it to this thread to see if an answer could be found.quote:Were APHE / APC-HE / APCBC-HE shells at all effective against infantry with their small HE filler? I speak mostly of tank-sized rounds, WW2 and such.
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chitoryu12 posted:So this is actually a question for a friend. I think it's something to do with a roleplay he's involved in. I told him I'd submit it to this thread to see if an answer could be found. Hell no. I doubt the HE would even go off when it's embedded in dirt instead of a tank, plus then you lose fun features like timed detonators. Also AP typically flies faster, making its trajectory flatter, and also making it a bitch to hit a target that is flat (like a trench) instead of vertical (like a tank). The opposite is definitely true, big enough HE can wreck a tank pretty solidly.
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Ensign Expendable posted:Hell no. I doubt the HE would even go off when it's embedded in dirt instead of a tank, plus then you lose fun features like timed detonators. Also AP typically flies faster, making its trajectory flatter, and also making it a bitch to hit a target that is flat (like a trench) instead of vertical (like a tank). Surely AP shells can do something against pillboxes, at least.
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Fangz posted:Surely AP shells can do something against pillboxes, at least. That's what the G-530 152mm anti-concrete shell was for 
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Ensign Expendable posted:Hell no. I doubt the HE would even go off when it's embedded in dirt instead of a tank, plus then you lose fun features like timed detonators. Also AP typically flies faster, making its trajectory flatter, and also making it a bitch to hit a target that is flat (like a trench) instead of vertical (like a tank). Wasn't the SU-152 absolutely lethal against armour despite having a really slow gun?
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AceRimmer posted:Isn't the semi-tradition of giving up first class seats to service members in uniform still around? Or was that just a brief post-9/11 thing? Sure, though typically it's more of the airlines upgrading service members if there's an empty seat. It's tricky though, because sometimes people have to dress up all fancy for the dignity of the service that would be let down if someone saw an unshined boot, and sometimes they have to travel in completely civilian clothes because terrorists might be hiding behind every corner and they're obviously targeting random soldiers. PittTheElder posted:Every time I go to the States (from Canada) I'm always struck by how common military folks are. My family is from a town just outside CFB Valcartier, so I'm used to seeing guys in combat fatigues wandering about, but the US just seems to have a much higher concentration of that; the airports especially, there seems to be guys in uniform all over the place, and lots of announcements about USO Lounges or something. Is it common for American servicemen to wear their fatigues while on work travel or something? Depending on the airport and the threat level, there's also a fairly good chance that you might be seeing national guard security teams that often get deployed into American airports so that they can fight the terrorists that live there. Kaal fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Jan 17, 2015 |
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Nuclear War posted:Its becoming more and more prevalent in Norway/Europe too. I see people with those yellow ribbon pins with inlaid Norwegian flags a lot, and, I poo poo you not, a guy in his late fifties, early sixties came up to me and thanked me for my service and for doing 'my part' . (I travel in uniform a fair bit and have for some years, and its only in the last few years this ribbon thing has started up). No kidding, I'm in Denmark and it's the same. It seems to be directly correlated with anti-arab racism and islamophobia in the news and folketinget  Slavvy posted:Wasn't the SU-152 absolutely lethal against armour despite having a really slow gun? Yes. In fact I believe (NOT AN EXPERT) that for a considerable window of time, it had to be used as AT instead of the intended assault gun role, because it could reliably gently caress up German armor. Tias fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Jan 17, 2015 |
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For the Irish islamophobes I meet (looking at you aunt Francis) it's nice to remind people that the IRA murdered lots of people in our name so ya know maybe all muslims aren't terrorists.
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Nuclear War posted:Its becoming more and more prevalent in Norway/Europe too. I see people with those yellow ribbon pins with inlaid Norwegian flags a lot, and, I poo poo you not, a guy in his late fifties, early sixties came up to me and thanked me for my service and for doing 'my part' . (I travel in uniform a fair bit and have for some years, and its only in the last few years this ribbon thing has started up). Noooooo Don't you Scandinavians realise you're the shining socialist utopia the rest of the world can hold up as an example when arguing with their conservative parents?
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I don't know about the rest of Scandinavia, but Denmark has been sucking neo-con cock for 10+ years, we're on a fast track to being Bush-admin lite.
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Kaal posted:Sure, though typically it's more of the airlines upgrading service members if there's an empty seat. It's tricky though, because sometimes people have to dress up all fancy for the dignity of the service that would be let down if someone saw an unshined boot, and sometimes they have to travel in completely civilian clothes because terrorists might be hiding behind every corner and they're obviously targeting random soldiers. I know the TSA is run by assholes, but that's a bit unfair.
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LeadSled posted:I know the TSA is run by assholes, but that's a bit unfair. Lol, I'd say. Back in Lithuania (when game companies don't buch us with Russia and forces us to play Mass Effect in Russian, they bunch us up with Scandinavia and wants us to pay Scandinavian prices, so gently caress you), soldiers are getting much more respect now, since, you know, Russia. It wasn't quite so when we were sending folks to Afghanistan, probably because we only ever had one casualty dead, and that was from bala perdida during a riot near a base. Folks used to beat up NATO pilots, because chav scum are a very teritorial scum. ...and nobody ever respected conscripts, since it was a hold over from Soviet times (and everybody wanted to avoid it) and only the criminaly worthless/stupid were in it (because it was so easy to get away from it). Nowdays, the volunteer forces are pretty gently caress yeah.
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HEY GAL posted:Everything is, but you're also probably in debt and good luck collecting on that, suckers Where is Swethland?
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He means Sweden, presumably. Sigismund was king of both for a while.
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100 Years Ago Following up from yesterday, it's time for a look at the already-intensive French mining operations around Carency, which you may recall was a first-hour objective for First Artois, but still remains firmly in German possession. (It's near Vimy Ridge and the Lorette.) Lieutenant Tennant of the 1/4th Seaforth Highlanders offers more than just a mildly melliflous name, and in Africa, Colonel von Lettow-Vorbeck is hosting a bring-your-own-machine-guns party at Jasin for all his mates.
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Morholt posted:He means Sweden, presumably. On my first trip to Krakow, I followed a group of German pensioners into Wawel Cathedral. Before I was kicked out for not being German and pensioner, we came up to a coffin with "Sigmund Wasa" (or something). I lived in Sweden and I got to see my first member of the House of Vasa on accident.
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