Detroit_Dogg posted:It's also really cool and good that there are a significant number of Penn State fans who think that making sure a guy who covered up the rape of children gets wins back is important. Like at some point don't you think you would be like "hm, do I really need to defend this man who covered up child rape" but actually they really do want to defend and applaud a man who covered up child rape. hypothetical: if evidence showing, beyond a reasonable doubt, that bear bryant was the zodiac killer were discovered, would his wins be vacated. if so, and if we accept that the ncaa has no authority to do so, then who vacates those wins. or do they stand because "the ncaa has no authority to punish criminal activity" trumps murder as well as serial child rape. i mean i have a feeling bama would sooner disband as a university than vacate those wins but it's a thought experiment, just spitballing here
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wheez the roux posted:i mean i have a feeling bama would sooner disband as a university than vacate those wins but it's a thought experiment, just spitballing here Imagine a world without Alabama football. Dream of this utopia.
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Crotch Bat posted:Is there a book you're given when you get a HC job on any level that's just filled with nothing but quotes from famous people you can somehow half-assedly tie into motivating players? You start hearing them when you're like 8 and they stick with you and you give them your own little spin when the time comes. I have a notebook full of them but it's kinda pointless because they're all permanently in my head anyway.
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Detroit_Dogg posted:You start hearing them when you're like 8 and they stick with you and you give them your own little spin when the time comes. I have a notebook full of them but it's kinda pointless because they're all permanently in my head anyway. I'd buy a book of Detriot_Dogg aphorisms.
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Thoguh posted:I'd buy a book of Detriot_Dogg aphorisms. I don't know the legality of printing a whole bunch of quotes and then finding out a bunch of them are from William Jennings Bryan and poo poo
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Jan 17, 2015 01:40
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Crotch Bat posted:Imagine a world without Alabama football. Dream of this utopia.
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wheez the roux posted:bear bryant was the zodiac killer were discovered Unfortunately he was too busy losing to Vanderbilt the day Paul Lee Stine was killed, although losing to Vandy is probably probably good motive to randomly kill.
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JT Jag posted:Imagine Batman without the Joker. You want to be rid of Bama. But you just can't just kill it, because then it wins, knowing it has dragged you down to its level. You feel the absurd, noble need to defeat the Tide nobly! Alabama, on the other hand, have no such compunctions. If you got rid of Alabama, you'd miss it. Nope, kill Bama
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Jan 17, 2015 01:49
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Crotch Bat posted:Imagine a world without Alabama football. Dream of this utopia. Without Alabama, Auburn or LSU would simply rise up in their place The more things change, the more they stay the same
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You'd have to divide Bama into two Bamas, one that's ruled by the Big Ten and one that's ruled by the Big 12, like we had to do with Germany.
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JT Jag posted:Imagine Batman without the Joker. You want to be rid of Bama. But you just can't just kill it, because then it wins, knowing it has dragged you down to its level. You feel the absurd, noble need to defeat the Tide nobly! Alabama, on the other hand, have no such compunctions. If you got rid of Alabama, you'd miss it. Sorry, Bama isn't ND.
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Jan 17, 2015 02:16
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Crotch Bat posted:Sorry, Bama isn't ND.
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Crotch Bat posted:Imagine a world without Alabama football. Dream of this utopia. We are living in it. Ohio State is on top of the college world and King Cardale is holding press conferences affirming his loyalty.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Jim Harbaugh is going to spontaneously combust quote:"When I first met him, I honestly thought a lot of it was an act, it was like a robot who was programmed as a football coach," says Ben Muth, who played offensive tackle for Harbaugh at Stanford. "It's absurd stuff, but he believes it all. And after a while, so do you. Just the way he talks, his cadence and his deliverance. He talks like a normal football coach, but kicked up 50 percent and he's always on.
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Lord of Garbagemen posted:Nope, kill Bama
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JT Jag posted:Notre Dame went missing for 20 years and no one cared. Speaking of, it's the two year anniversary of the catfish thing breaking quote:Sept. 22, 2012: Kekua's funeral takes place in Carson, Calif. (The Associated Press puts it in "Carson City, Calif.," which does not exist.) Te'o skips the funeral, saying Kekua had insisted that he not miss a game (Los Angeles Times). Her casket is closed at 9 a.m. Pacific time,according to Te'o. That night, Notre Dame beats Michigan, 13-6, to go to 4-0, the school's best start in a decade. Te'o intercepts two passes. After the game, he says of Lennay: "All she wanted was some white roses. So I sent her roses and sent her two picks along with that." Notre Dame head coach Brian Kelly awards the game ball to Lennay Kekua, handing it to Te'o to "take back to Hawaii."
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JT Jag posted:Notre Dame went missing for 20 years and no one cared. People cheered for Bama against ND. Overwhelmingly so, too. That pretty much ends the discussion.
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Jan 17, 2015 02:51
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Crotch Bat posted:People cheered for Bama against ND. Overwhelmingly so, too. And they were right to do so. People should even root for Penn State over ND.
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mastershakeman posted:And they were right to do so. People should even root for Penn State over ND. Catholic church has raped more little boys than Penn State.
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wheez the roux posted:hypothetical: if evidence showing, beyond a reasonable doubt, that bear bryant was the zodiac killer were discovered, would his wins be vacated. if so, and if we accept that the ncaa has no authority to do so, then who vacates those wins. or do they stand because "the ncaa has no authority to punish criminal activity" trumps murder as well as serial child rape. Why would Bear Bryant being the Zodiac killer mean that his wins need to be vacated? Unless he was murdering recruits during the dead period I don't see how the two are related.
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A better comparison would be if like Ken Donahue or Schnelly was the Zodiak Killer, and he was killing kids on Bama's campus, and Bear Bryant knew about it but didn't really care and let him carry on murdering folk while running Ken Donahue's Happy Fun Time Not Murdering You Foundation to protect his program from the awful public relations that would undoubtedly follow.
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If you raped a young boy in the bathroom of your employment office, your employer might take away your employee of the month awards. I think that settles the argument. Can we talk about Cardale some more?
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Frackie Robinson posted:Why would Bear Bryant being the Zodiac killer mean that his wins need to be vacated? Unless he was murdering recruits during the dead period I don't see how the two are related. That's the point he's making about Paterno. The crimes that were committed deserved to be prosecuted by the police, but the NCAA really didn't have any authority to come in and punish the school. Butthead posted:I think that settles the argument. Can we talk about Cardale some more? He owns. He was on Dan Patrick this morning and was great. I honestly don't know who I want to win the starting job at this point.
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Oh man if only there was a place to talk about this poo poo like a thread I created with no intention of ever looking at again
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wheez the roux posted:hypothetical: if evidence showing, beyond a reasonable doubt, that bear bryant was the zodiac killer were discovered, would his wins be vacated. if so, and if we accept that the ncaa has no authority to do so, then who vacates those wins. or do they stand because "the ncaa has no authority to punish criminal activity" trumps murder as well as serial child rape. It's further revealed that those killings helped America surge ahead technologically by him killing secretly a terror group sent back in time to destroy the world and is then given a title championship for every murder Pays To be Bama
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JT Jag posted:Imagine Batman without the Joker. You want to be rid of Bama. But you just can't just kill it, because then it wins, knowing it has dragged you down to its level. You feel the absurd, noble need to defeat the Tide nobly! Alabama, on the other hand, have no such compunctions. If you got rid of Alabama, you'd miss it. Agreed. Winning the title this year was 10x better after beating Alabama. It wouldn't have been the same if Ole Miss or UGA had been the SEC champ. The world needs villains and not incompetent ones like Notre Dame.
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Yeah but as far as a lot of us are concerned, FSU, Bama, and Ohio State were the villains this year. So the bad guys still won and the world is still gray
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Child Rape: Not an NCAA Violation.
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So does the NCAA not have a rule against covering up criminal activity that would have a negative PR affect on the school and thus impact recruiting? Because if they don't, then they should.
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The only team I wouldn't throw in the villains pile out of this playoff was Oregon. Every other team has been historically successful, while Oregon is only like a junior villain. Did Oregon ever get in any trouble for that Willie Lyles handler payoff poo poo? How is that not worse than free tattoos?
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Pakled posted:So does the NCAA not have a rule against covering up criminal activity that would have a negative PR affect on the school and thus impact recruiting? Because if they don't, then they should. The NCAA rulebook is actually just a candle's flame interpreted through a pile of green jello, so it can basically mean anything it wants depending on how the high priests see it on one particular day. One tutor helps some dudes cheat and no one in the athletic department has a clue about it? VACATE A SEASON AND LOSE A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP IN TRACK. Some dudes trade poo poo for free tattoos? GET OUT OF COACHING YOU SON OF A BITCH YOU HAVE DESTROYED THE SANCTITY OF OUR GAME >counts up billions and billions of dollars< Coaching staff and administration orchestrate a cover-up of child rape for more than a decade? WELL LET'S NOT BE *TOO* HARSH NOW, I MEAN, COME ON, IT'S NOT LIKE SOMEONE CHEATED IN AN ONLINE COURSE. aka it's a total loving farce.
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Fussy Dutchman posted:The only team I wouldn't throw in the villains pile out of this playoff was Oregon. Every other team has been historically successful, while Oregon is only like a junior villain. Chip Kelly might need to get show-caused if he wants to coach NCAA, and Oregon lost a single scholarship for ~2 years. NCAA is actually pretty lenient if you are 100% up front about your violations
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KKKLIP ART posted:Yeah but as far as a lot of us are concerned, FSU, Bama, and Ohio State were the villains this year. So the bad guys still won and the world is still gray 2/3 ain't so bad, especially when the deck is stacked from the get-go.
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Crotch Bat posted:Imagine a world without Alabama football. Dream of this utopia. the trophy case would still be empty fyi
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Cardale Jones did the impossible and made me cheer for OSU.
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