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mastershakeman posted:It's really, really easy in expensive cities and if you have an active social circle. I mean poo poo here's a Chicago example: I cut way back on my going out (now down to 1 or 2x a week, and in moderation) from maybe 3-4x a week. I'd run up a ~$40-$50 tab easily by myself -- Seattle, and I like good whisky + cocktails. $1k is excessive, but I can see a few hundred easily, especially if you include going out to get dinners and such along with the booze budget. But now I have more money in my pockets, I'm healthier, and the bartenders still like me since I spent far too much money with them earlier. v0v
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I know we already have one guy with a Disney-obsessed coworker in this thread, and I've mentioned a close friend of mine who is otherwise reasonably well-traveled yet loves to go with her mom or whole family a couple times per year, not because of sentimental attachment as a child, but because "going there is like seeing the best of humanity all in once place". Now a friend of a friend who is Disney/comic convention/tabletop gaming/movie/etc. obsessed has just announced on Facebook that he passed his Disney courses for travel agent training. I have no idea what that means or what poor fools end up paying for said courses (and poor clients who buy packages from agents of these courses)... but I can't imagine any shred of it is BFC approved. I can almost guarantee he's using this to somehow earn discounted trips to Disney for his family for the MAGIC it brings. Think of the return on investment!
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SpelledBackwards posted:I know we already have one guy with a Disney-obsessed coworker in this thread, and I've mentioned a close friend of mine who is otherwise reasonably well-traveled yet loves to go with her mom or whole family a couple times per year, not because of sentimental attachment as a child, but because "going there is like seeing the best of humanity all in once place". Pretty sure the Disney Travel Agent thing is an MLM scheme
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It always astounds me how much money my friends spend on alcohol. Several hundred dollars a month on craft beers alone. Then add liquor for home and bar tabs. These guys aren't exactly making a lot of money either. Meanwhile, I don't drink at all. This is fantastic for my wallet and physical health, but is often so socially crippling that it feels like a "good with money, bad with life" sort of thing.
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On this topic of spending insane amounts of money on vices, my roommate's weed consumption has hit an all-time high. His dealer has reported that my roommate spends about $800-1000 a month. My total living expenses are barely $1000 a month.
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Rick Rickshaw posted:On this topic of spending insane amounts of money on vices, my roommate's weed consumption has hit an all-time high. His dealer has reported that my roommate spends about $800-1000 a month. I've never spent that much even when I was flipping it.
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Rudager posted:Pretty sure the Disney Travel Agent thing is an MLM scheme Disney Travel Agent training is a legit thing in the travel industry. They offer massive industry discounts if you take courses that let you market their properties better. I work for a big travel company and after I get my industry ID card, can complete some of their courses to get 50% off all resort stays. Which I mean I'm not all that interested in, but just wanted to say it's definitely a legit thing at some level.
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Kefit posted:It always astounds me how much money my friends spend on alcohol. Several hundred dollars a month on craft beers alone. Then add liquor for home and bar tabs. These guys aren't exactly making a lot of money either. One of my goals in the 2015 Goals thread was to spend no more than $50 a month on alcohol for home consumption, down from an estimated $70-90 per month. We're halfway through January and so far have spent $0 
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Rick Rickshaw posted:On this topic of spending insane amounts of money on vices, my roommate's weed consumption has hit an all-time high. His dealer has reported that my roommate spends about $800-1000 a month. Holy gently caress, does your roommate never put down the bong to breathe? The most diehard pothead I know only spends about $400, and he blows through an ounce a week Kefit posted:It always astounds me how much money my friends spend on alcohol. Several hundred dollars a month on craft beers alone. Then add liquor for home and bar tabs. These guys aren't exactly making a lot of money either. If you want to go out and not have people pressure you to drink, just nurse a seltzer water with lime. Bars are only expensive if you allow them to be.
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I don't drink, and I don't see how it's "socially crippling." Are you like an addict who can't go anywhere alcohol is served? If so, then yeah. If not, you can do all the stuff that people who drink do, just holding a soda/water. If you don't make a big deal of it, most people get over it fast.
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Droo posted:I love on TV shows about doctors/lawyers/wall street type people where they have to act like it's impossible for the character to come up with relatively modest sums of money. Watch Margin Call.
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Not a Children posted:Holy gently caress, does your roommate never put down the bong to breathe? The most diehard pothead I know only spends about $400, and he blows through an ounce a week I don't smoke pot, but from what I know, $100 an ounce sounds like that's like 1/3 the regular price.
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Not a Children posted:Holy gently caress, does your roommate never put down the bong to breathe? The most diehard pothead I know only spends about $400, and he blows through an ounce a week Where do you live because where I live you'd be incredibly lucky to get a half of an ounce for $100. That's part of why I never smoke.
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No one has cared whether or not I drink since high school (and maybe college), so that's not really an issue at all. I'm perfectly capable of sitting in a bar and not drinking, and have done this many times. But watching other people drink and interacting with their resulting intoxicated states is not a particularly captivating way to spend a night out (or a party, or a relaxed social get together, etc). Perhaps "crippling" is too strong of a word, but it definitely creates a social hurdle. You can't really deny that social drinking is a prominent part of expected adult social interactions. I may or may not also be influenced by the fact that most of my friends are slowly but surely becoming alcoholics as we approach our 30s. That's definitely bad with money, among other things.
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Nail Rat posted:Where do you live because where I live you'd be incredibly lucky to get a half of an ounce for $100. Maryland, near DC. My friend is loving his dealer, so that probably helps. Even $25 a month is too much for pot imo
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Nail Rat posted:Where do you live because where I live you'd be incredibly lucky to get a half of an ounce for $100. At a certain point... Wouldn't it be easier to just grow your own? I don't smoke, but I can't really imagine it would take much more than a closet, and a pot and some light bulbs. Especially if you're spending that much. Unless they live with their parents...
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TLG James posted:At a certain point... Wouldn't it be easier to just grow your own? I don't smoke, but I can't really imagine it would take much more than a closet, and a pot and some light bulbs. Especially if you're spending that much. Unless they live with their parents... "Possession" vs "Manufacturing"
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Any savings you'd make from growing would definitely be wiped out by the expense of protecting yourself when you get arrested. Illegal drugs are bad with money.
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Illegal drugs are bad with law, but that's a whole different thread. There are dispensary-indexing websites that will actually show you the price of weed online, so you can actually go out and compare prices in different areas with legalized or medicinal marijuana, which is a decent chunk of the country now. $1,000 of weed a month is unfathomable to me. Even if I had a whole month off to just be baked 24/7 I don't think I could spend more than $500. Substantially less if I were using edibles. Edit: Does he share? That could explain it.
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Wickerman posted:Any savings you'd make from growing would definitely be wiped out by the expense of protecting yourself when you get arrested.  not illegal everywhere, and you can even grow your own legally in Colorado so that's actually a legitimate frugality discussion in that one state.
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Pssh, who doesn't budget their bulk weed purchases 18-months in advance based on their consumption habits? Now if only there was a futures market... 
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Weed equity.
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I budget my weed purchases and buy in bulk and then vacuum store it to save almost 50% on the street price. We don't really drink, my alcohol budget is <$25 a month. Obviously it's still recreationally illegal here or I would just do that.
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Nail Rat posted:
It's relatively easy to be approved to grow up to six plants in CA too.
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My rule on booze is: if it doesn't come from a plastic bottle, I can't afford it. Probably spend $20-$25 a month on home consumption. Bar consumption these days are about the same. Calypso and Black Magic are decent cheap rums for the money, and I occasionally pick up vodka on sale. Beer is usually Shiner Bock (a 12 pack lasts months) and/or whatever friends of mine bring over and leave for us when we cook dinner for them. During the holidays we hold a couple of parties and get nicer stuff, but that's only two times a year.
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Grouco posted:Pssh, who doesn't budget their bulk weed purchases 18-months in advance based on their consumption habits? Now if only there was a futures market... My understanding is that there is a vibrant self organized futures market in the Washington state mmj industry.
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blackmet posted:My rule on booze is: if it doesn't come from a plastic bottle, I can't afford it. This post is really bringing me down. A 12-pack lasts months? That's bad with beer, if anything. If you like rum, it won't kill you to occasionally buy something a bit nicer.
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Even if he's getting really ripped off, $800 month must keep him high drat near constantly. And if he's banging his dealer, he's probably getting a discount, so it's easily a ounce a week, if not more. Grouco posted:Pssh, who doesn't budget their bulk weed purchases 18-months in advance based on their consumption habits? Now if only there was a futures market... Then you'll just get arrested for "intent to sell", considering that 18 months for that dude would be a couple pounds. No better off than growing it.  blackmet posted:My rule on booze is: if it doesn't come from a plastic bottle, I can't afford it. Yup. Or in a 30 rack. 30 beers for $14? God bless the land of sky blue waters.
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I live on the East Coast of Canada, first of all. Everything is more expensive here. He rolls gigantic joints and smokes them like they're going out of style. Example: One time he smoked one before some friends came over. Then he smoked with them, and then smoked solo again immediately after they left.
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If your Vodka doesn't say Kirkland on it then you paid too much.
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Rick Rickshaw posted:I live on the East Coast of Canada, first of all. Everything is more expensive here. A general rule of thumb on nearly any kind of drug is that 20% of users use 80% of the total market. This seems consistent.
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Krispy Kareem posted:If your Vodka doesn't say Kirkland on it then you paid too much. Fun thing to do with some vodka snobs (and a good excuse for some solid drinking): hold a blind taste test using a few high- and low-end brands. Watch the cognitive dissonance unfold before your eyes. We actually did this with a few different types of liquor back in college. Best if you can set it up as a double blind (shot glasses labeled on the bottom under a sticker or something, then mixed around). Hardly anyone can identify their "favorite" $40 vodka versus smirnoff or whatever else.
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Vox Nihili posted:Fun thing to do with some vodka snobs (and a good excuse for some solid drinking): hold a blind taste test using a few high- and low-end brands. Watch the cognitive dissonance unfold before your eyes. The Kirkland stuff is actually Grey Goose (actually I think they also now have a lower end vodka too that comes in an even bigger bottle they sell alongside it, but the OG Kirkland stuff is re-labled GG). Nerds On The Internet also pulled the distillery permits from ATF to figure out that the small batch bourbon came from Jim Beam, you can do this for all of their alcohol to figure out who the original manufacturer is thanks to federal law. Also, in many states it's illegal to require someone to buy a membership to purchase alcohol, so Costco's liquor stores are separate from the main store and you can buy from there without having to show a Costco card. My local liquor store is Bad With Inventory and always overstocks the seasonal stuff, so you can pick it up for 50%+ off once it goes out of season. Magic Hat's Elder Betty (elderberry, summer brew) was my fall jam at $4/6 bottles, they had 12 packs of Shiner's Christmas beer for like $6.99 when I was in there last time. Pompous Rhombus fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jan 17, 2015 |
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Pompous Rhombus posted:The Kirkland stuff is actually Grey Goose (actually I think they also now have a lower end vodka too that comes in an even bigger bottle they sell alongside it, but the OG Kirkland stuff is re-labled GG). Nerds On The Internet also pulled the distillery permits from ATF to figure out that the small batch bourbon came from Jim Beam, you can do this for all of their alcohol to figure out who the original manufacturer is thanks to federal law. Also, in many states it's illegal to require someone to buy a membership to purchase alcohol, so Costco's liquor stores are separate from the main store and you can buy from there without having to show a Costco card. The last time I went to Costco, I spent $80 and walked out with a gallon of hard liquor. I'll leave whether this is good with money or not as an exercise to the reader.
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Horking Delight posted:The last time I went to Costco, I spent $80 and walked out with a gallon of hard liquor. I'll leave whether this is good with money or not as an exercise to the reader. That's like two handles, which you can get for way less than $80, depending on how little self respect you have
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Vox Nihili posted:This post is really bringing me down. A 12-pack lasts months? That's bad with beer, if anything. If you like rum, it won't kill you to occasionally buy something a bit nicer. True, it probably won't. But I'm poor, like to have a drink most nights after work, used to the taste and generally cut it with house brand cola anyway, so... Mind you, I do have some standards. No Beachcomber, Taaka, Skol, or Burnett's allowed.
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Vox Nihili posted:Fun thing to do with some vodka snobs (and a good excuse for some solid drinking): hold a blind taste test using a few high- and low-end brands. Watch the cognitive dissonance unfold before your eyes. I did the same thing with vodka and my hands down favorite for vodka was Seagrams. Which is dirt cheap and my goto now. If you really want a mindfuck, look into the Templeton Rye lawsuit and start finding out that most liquor is all distilled by a handful of distillers and then distributed in bulk to the companies that you've heard of. Some filter it or add various additives or blends, but generally higher end booze is one huge scam. Gin is kind of an exception as the big companies start with the same poo poo and add their own blend of herbals to it.
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Krispy Kareem posted:If your Vodka doesn't say Kirkland on it then you paid too much. Unless you live in a state like Pennsylvania that prohibits the store from selling liquor in any sense (the only liquor stores are state owned).
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blackmet posted:generally cut it with house brand cola anyway, so... Shiner Bock and Coke??  there's one you don't hear every dayEdit: oh Jesus christ I need to learn how to read 
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illcendiary posted:Shiner Bock and Coke?? I saw people in Argentina doing half beer-half coke. Looked pretty refreshing on a hot day and can't be any more of a bastard than radlers or shandies.
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