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pseudorandom name posted:or SIDs dave cutler confirmed responsible for baby death, is still more hated for creating windows nt
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drive letters are good. if they are on separate filesystems they should have separate roots. if ur problem is drive identification use a drive label if ur problem is something else take your meds
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Jan 17, 2015 07:23
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drive letters i guess make sense when you have a small personal microcomputer that has external disk drives that take physical media to give you a nice convenient letter ID for each of them that you can put a sticker on the drives to identify which is which if you happen to have a few for whatever reason, and its 1987 they suck when you're using an actual computer that has potentially just either one main disk managed by the OS, or the opposite, tons of local and remote filesystems combined into one environmen
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Jan 17, 2015 07:26
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:drive letters are good. if they are on separate filesystems they should have separate roots. nt doesn't require drive letters anyway. you can use folder paths as mount points for volumes. it's not common but it's fully supported
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Jan 17, 2015 07:31
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"not common but it's fully supported" means third-party programs will break in new and interesting ways
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Jan 17, 2015 07:35
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Sniep posted:drive letters i guess make sense when you have a small personal microcomputer that has external disk drives that take physical media to give you a nice convenient letter ID for each of them that you can put a sticker on the drives to identify which is which if you happen to have a few for whatever reason, and its 1987 if you wanna sperg about mounts microsoft got you covered http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938934.aspx still i prefer not having all my files in one namespace
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Jan 17, 2015 07:40
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anthonypants posted:"not common but it's fully supported" means third-party programs will break in new and interesting ways third party programs won't be able to tell, just like how they can't tell that the current drive letters are symbolic links to the actual volumes
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Jan 17, 2015 07:57
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Sniep posted:drive letters i guess make sense when you have a small personal microcomputer that has external disk drives barely quote:that take physical media to give you a nice convenient letter ID for each of them that you can put a sticker on the drives to identify which is which if you happen to have a few for whatever reason, and its 1987 try 1982 by 1987 modern systems would let you have multiple disks with the same name mounted at once and software just worked, because how the software worked and how things were presented to the user were kept distinct.
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Jan 17, 2015 08:00
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anthonypants posted:"not common but it's fully supported" means third-party programs will break in new and interesting ways this is why the vRefNum,parID,name tulle in the classic Mac APIs were genius
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Jan 17, 2015 08:02
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:if you wanna sperg about mounts microsoft got you covered http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938934.aspx i dont, i could care less what hacks they put in place to let you 'mount' drives like real computers just use a OS that is built with actual filesystems for real use in mind during design
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Jan 17, 2015 08:03
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unix is the pinnacle of human achievement and death to those who insult it
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Jan 17, 2015 08:04
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eschaton posted:try 1982 users are dumb though and for some reason microsoft cares about that
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Jan 17, 2015 08:08
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drive letters are kind of weird when you have more than 1 internal drive in your computer.
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Jan 17, 2015 08:17
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they named the first drive the letter C
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Jan 17, 2015 08:19
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that's because a and b are for your floppies
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Jan 17, 2015 08:21
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pram posted:unix is the pinnacle of human achievement and death to those who insult it  anthonypants posted:"not common but it's fully supported" means third-party programs will break in new and interesting ways normally yes, in this case no unless you've done something stupid and have a system volume that doesn't map to c: windows is poo poo for edge cases, but this has been baked in since nt was a thing eschaton posted:by 1987 modern systems would let you have multiple disks with the same name mounted at once and software just worked, because how the software worked and how things were presented to the user were kept distinct. yeah and remember what happened when you had the same filename in the same path on more than one drive? edge cases killed that because you need consistent behaviour from your filesystem
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Jan 17, 2015 08:26
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Phoenixan posted:that's because a and b are for your floppies my floppy is named neither a nor b
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Jan 17, 2015 08:27
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infernal machines posted:nt doesn't require drive letters anyway. you can use folder paths as mount points for volumes. wont everything be on C: then
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Jan 17, 2015 08:27
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i mean if its on C: then its hardly without drive letters
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Jan 17, 2015 08:28
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look, i am a successful project manager for a respected firm, if i may say so myself. I want my children to grow up to Understand Computers, because that's the future! why would i choose a computer like those competitors? There is no way my Children could understand that, so I chose Microsoft's next-gen CP/M operating system, DOS. It has drive letters. so my children are able to identify the drives based on letter, which i have affixed to each device, A, B and even C. I have a C drive because I am a successful professional who has done quite well for himself, so of course i got the Fixed Disk the salesman recommended. I put a "C" sticker on the mainframe itself so they know which each of the letters represents. why on earth would i get them an inferior computer system that even I cannot understand?!? that just doesnt add up. I like to stick to the ABCs.
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Jan 17, 2015 08:29
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Snapchat A Titty posted:wont everything be on C: then everything will point to the guid for the drive its located on in the ui, probably c: , yes
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Jan 17, 2015 08:48
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infernal machines posted:everything will point to the guid for the drive its located on do cloned drives clone the guid or is that a hardware thing?
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Jan 17, 2015 09:02
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guids are a hack to prevent users from having to use meaningful identifiers or even comprehend what a disk is if you understand that one hard drive can be replaced by another with the same data on it, you're beyond windows level
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Jan 17, 2015 09:05
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pram posted:unix is the pinnacle of human achievement and death to those who insult it harsh but fair
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Jan 17, 2015 09:32
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Jan 17, 2015 10:30
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fools i have looked at the design notes for NT and they are beyond your ken
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Jan 17, 2015 14:11
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infernal machines posted:everything will point to the guid for the drive its located on lol. So Windows relies on drive letters, there's no way to get rid of them. Mounting another drive to some folder on C: doesn't seem like a system without letters. Oh and "everything"? Windows software (even Explorer) doesn't seem to link to GUIDS, but letters/paths.
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Jan 17, 2015 15:19
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infernal machines posted:my floppy is named neither a nor b its your d
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Jan 17, 2015 16:00
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Dolomite posted:its your d  crew cordially welcomes its newest member: DOLOMITE!
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Jan 17, 2015 16:07
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:do cloned drives clone the guid or is that a hardware thing? you can clone the guid but it's not default behaviour and windows will change one if it detects two drives with the same
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Jan 17, 2015 16:09
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speaking of mount points, do windows symlinks work properly?
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Jan 17, 2015 17:36
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infernal machines posted:yeah and remember what happened when you had the same filename in the same path on more than one drive? never had that problem because I don't use dos or windows the Mac dealt with cases like that just fine, even in 1987 ("Year of the Mac II")
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Jan 17, 2015 18:01
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Sniep posted:drive letters i guess make sense when you have a small personal microcomputer that has external disk drives that take physical media to give you a nice convenient letter ID for each of them that you can put a sticker on the drives to identify which is which if you happen to have a few for whatever reason, and its 1987 yes drive letters are good for consumers and may or may not be used on a server. but like always, you have a choice on windows that you don't get on a Linux.
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Jan 17, 2015 18:04
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some reasons for having drive letters: makes it easy to identify drives prevents conflict caused by lack of hardware level unique ids reasons for not having drive letters: Autism
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Jan 17, 2015 18:09
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Shaggar posted:reasons for having drive letters:
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Jan 17, 2015 18:30
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Yes, how do all the Mac and Linux user manage to identify their drives just fine without drive letters?! Face it, drive letters are dumb and outdated. Just like everything else Windows. But it runs my games, I guess.
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Jan 17, 2015 18:52
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Fame Douglas posted:
even that's not necessarily exclusive to windows these days (it'll run them better than anything else tho)
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Jan 17, 2015 18:54
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drive letters work great now that they're assigned at random to flash devices instead of in a predictable order to the devices the floppy and IDE controllers
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Jan 17, 2015 19:02
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what drive letter does the cloud get? id say "C" but folks in the know tell me that one is taken
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microsoft windows. a POS OS in severe decline. with only the most desperate holdouts defending its beleaguered walls against the siege of the righteous
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