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Sleeveless posted:Parks and Recreation season one was a terrible show with bad ratings that would have gotten cancelled on any other network. Community and P&R fans getting salty about NBC when the network is more or less single-handedly responsible for the shows having more than a single season is always fairly loving rich. Back in the 90's some Homicide: Life On The Street fans had the same thing with NBC, and IT RAN SEVEN SEASONS. Even the producers grudgingly admitted that despite being in the Friday night death slot, they were given a lot of freedom to do what is probably the greatest cop show not on HBO.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Adulthood is not signified by adherence to corporate branding guidelines Is this a product placement complaint cause if so jesus christ
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Jan 17, 2015 13:35
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Amy's impression of Tammy 2 was amazing and already justified this season for me. 
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Jan 17, 2015 13:43
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Sleeveless posted:Parks and Recreation season one was a terrible show with bad ratings that would have gotten cancelled on any other network. Community and P&R fans getting salty about NBC when the network is more or less single-handedly responsible for the shows having more than a single season is always fairly loving rich. In the subsequent six years they've cancelled Community twice and given P&R the runaround in terms of timeslots, numbers of episodes ordered, and whether or not it would ever even get renewed, and they're now burning off the final season like they can't end the show fast enough. Your point about nbc giving them a chance is well taken, but it's understandable for fans of those shows to be a little bitter.
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Jan 17, 2015 13:44
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What's Leslie's new job again?
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Jan 17, 2015 15:02
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Davros1 posted:What's Leslie's new job again? She is a regional director for the National Parks Service.
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Jan 17, 2015 15:06
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Yep. She's in charge of the Midwest.
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Jan 17, 2015 16:41
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What I'm wondering is who is actually running the Parks department now?
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Jan 17, 2015 17:00
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Pakled posted:As far as Ron and Leslie hating each other "for no reason" goes, we do have a reason, a "Morningstar" incident that's almost certainly going to be explained at some point during the season. I bet Ron threw out her vegetarian breakfast sausages. Ron would not abide fake meat.
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Jan 17, 2015 17:04
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socialsecurity posted:What I'm wondering is who is actually running the Parks department now? Pretty sure it's Jamm, right? Part of his assumption of Ron's identity.
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socialsecurity posted:What I'm wondering is who is actually running the Parks department now? Craig.
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Jan 17, 2015 17:08
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Anyone seen the director's cut of the second episode on Hulu? There's a pretty great exchange between Leslie and Jamm in his office that got cut. And a completely different ending joke for the episode
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Jan 17, 2015 17:08
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GigaPeon posted:I bet Ron threw out her vegetarian breakfast sausages. Ron would not abide fake meat. My first thought was also something silly related to those frozen vegan meats.
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Jan 17, 2015 18:06
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At first, I was bummed about the old group breaking up and taking sides in the Leslie/Ron feud. I'm at the age where all my old friends have kids and live far away, and I never see or hang out with anyone anymore, so it hit a little harder than it should have (especially because I can relate to Andy and April's worries that they've gotten old and boring). But then I thought about how Michael Schur has always cited The Wire (my favorite show, too) among his influences on Parks, and it made a little more sense. The cops on The Wire were brought together as an ad hoc task force in the first season, and after they solved that case, the task force was dissolved and they went back to their old jobs. Several of them had other opportunities to work together more on other cases in the later seasons, but it was never quite the same. Some remained partners, colleagues, and friends, others drifted apart and did their own things. It showed a dynamic workplace rather than a static one like almost every other "workplace show," and it felt that much more realistic for it. I guess for a "workplace" sitcom, Parks is doing the realistic thing too, with characters moving on, growing up, and drifting apart from each other.
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Jan 17, 2015 20:08
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Merauder posted:My first thought was also something silly related to those frozen vegan meats.
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Jan 17, 2015 20:26
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At first I was bummed about Ron and Leslie feuding but now I feel like him as the last villain is perfect. The finale can have Leslie winning and Ron rolling with it and they can be bros again.
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Jan 17, 2015 20:55
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Macaluso posted:Is this a product placement complaint cause if so jesus christ You don't think "Well April and Andy are adults now, so they've started referring to all products by their full trademarked names?" is an insane point for someone to try and make? All I did was vaguely recall a line where I wondered if it was product placement, someone helped me remember that it was this line, and then goons started gooning because gently caress me for having a vague inkling that one single sentence in this show might be less than perfect I guess.
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Jan 17, 2015 21:11
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In-context I thought that referring to a product by a brand name added to the point of the scene which was to confirm April's fears that they were old and boring. Because now they're old and giving into the "corporations" and all that.  I mean, yeah, it was *probably* product placement but as long as it's a one-time thing then I think it's less egregious than the Windows phones and tablets in previous seasons.
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Jan 17, 2015 21:14
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It was a joke. The joke is he's old and feels better if he takes an antacid and they're so familiar with each other that she knows that.
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Jan 17, 2015 21:28
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Solice Kirsk posted:It was a joke. The joke is he's old and feels better if he takes an antacid and they're so familiar with each other that she knows that. Yes genius, but do you notice how you said "an antacid" and not ZantacTM Brand Antacid Tablets? All I was trying to say is that the way they wrote the line made me momentarily wonder if it is product placement. Do you think that this is something that you, as a human being, can cope with having happened? Will the earth continue to revolve around the sun if a television viewer had a brief moment of curiosity about whether unpopular comedy show "Parks and Recreation" employed product integration when writing a line about a man's heartburn troubles? Tiny Brontosaurus fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jan 17, 2015 |
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Jan 17, 2015 21:43
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yes genius, but do you notice how you said "an antacid" and not ZantacTM Brand Antacid Tablets? All I was trying to say is that the way they wrote the line made me momentarily wonder if it is product placement. Do you think that this is something that you, as a human being, can cope with having happened? Will the earth continue to revolve around the sun if a television viewer had a brief moment of curiosity about whether unpopular comedy show "Parks and Recreation" employed product integration when writing a line about a man's heartburn troubles? You certainly are putting a lot of energy into this.
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Jan 17, 2015 22:30
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yes genius, but do you notice how you said "an antacid" and not ZantacTM Brand Antacid Tablets? All I was trying to say is that the way they wrote the line made me momentarily wonder if it is product placement. Do you think that this is something that you, as a human being, can cope with having happened? Will the earth continue to revolve around the sun if a television viewer had a brief moment of curiosity about whether unpopular comedy show "Parks and Recreation" employed product integration when writing a line about a man's heartburn troubles? Many people in real life are very specific with the brands they use  e: what is your stance on people who use "Coke" to represent all soda 3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jan 17, 2015 |
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Jan 17, 2015 22:35
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Punch Card posted:You certainly are putting a lot of energy into this. Don't waste your time with Tiny Brontosaurus. Seriously, he/she/it just doesn't loving stop.
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Jan 17, 2015 23:13
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yes genius, but do you notice how you said "an antacid" and not ZantacTM Brand Antacid Tablets? All I was trying to say is that the way they wrote the line made me momentarily wonder if it is product placement. Do you think that this is something that you, as a human being, can cope with having happened? Will the earth continue to revolve around the sun if a television viewer had a brief moment of curiosity about whether unpopular comedy show "Parks and Recreation" employed product integration when writing a line about a man's heartburn troubles? Oh my god you're right I can't believe I was living in the shadow of such ignorance for so long about this. This was such a well-researched post that even included things like the symbol for trademark, you certainly put a lot of effort into this. Please keep posting so I can broaden my horizons about what is and isn't the right opinion to have about a TV show. Please. Keep. Posting.
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Jan 17, 2015 23:26
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fount of knowledge posted:See, it's funny because I feel in this and the last season the show actually did the opposite and dialed Leslie's self-righteousness up 300%, to the point where it's almost as grating as season 1 Leslie used to be. It honestly makes it a lot harder to root for her compared to the earlier seasons. Case in point, pretty much any plot last season that involved her getting in a fight with Ben was handled in a way that made me feel way more cringey than amused. I have to say I feel the same way, though at least in these first two episodes it only emerged a couple times.
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Jan 17, 2015 23:49
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Even if it were product placement it's also an effective line which communicates the joke perfectly, what a ridiculously inane thing to bitch about. Also yeah that was a pretty good start to the season, especially coming off the back of a pretty mediocre season 6. It's still not season 2-3 quality and the characters have definitely been a bit flanderised but it made me laugh a fair few times and Andy at least seems to have gone a few school grades again, so I'm gonna call that a win. And finally, why does anyone give a single gently caress about NBC scheduling? The show got its full seven seasons and we get to watch them in fairly short order, why would you even care if the show's producers aren't making as much money as you think they hypothetically could? Just shut up and watch the show
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I maintain that Leslie is the main antagonist of most of season 6. I don't think you're supposed to sympathize with her for most of the season.
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A Steampunk Gent posted:Even if it were product placement it's also an effective line which communicates the joke perfectly, what a ridiculously inane thing to bitch about. I'm also happy about getting the rest of the show fairly quickly instead of dragging it out for nine months. Guess I'm weird!
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old dog child posted:e: what is your stance on people who use "Coke" to represent all soda Madmen, the lot of em!
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old dog child posted:e: what is your stance on people who use "Coke" to represent all soda I asked my wife for a Kleenex today instead of a facial tissue even though the actual brand we use is Puffs. Oh god, I am a monster!
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Jan 18, 2015 04:30
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You don't think "Well April and Andy are adults now, so they've started referring to all products by their full trademarked names?" is an insane point for someone to try and make? All I did was vaguely recall a line where I wondered if it was product placement, someone helped me remember that it was this line, and then goons started gooning because gently caress me for having a vague inkling that one single sentence in this show might be less than perfect I guess. I think complaining about product placement is silly, in general. Guy A. Person posted:I asked my wife for a Kleenex today instead of a facial tissue even though the actual brand we use is Puffs. Oh god, I am a monster! Please just say "tissue" in the future. This product placement is taking me out of the forum experience.
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Jan 18, 2015 04:55
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My grandmother used to call her food storage unit a frigidaire, what a monster. Sometimes I use band-aids! I've called gelatin based desserts jello and flavored sugar water kool-aid! what a world what a world I thought the zantac thing made the dialogue sound more natural. It's really weird watching stuff where they go out of their way to say brand names. It's a fine line to walk, because if you're too brazen it just looks like shameless product placement, but if you're too generic it can kinda take you out of it, especially in a show where Tom constantly name drops celebrities and real life digital services. That being said I do love Big Kahuna Burger and Red Apple cigarettes.
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Jan 18, 2015 04:57
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I don't have a problem with people saying brand names I just thought it was really weird to argue that saying brand names is a signifier of adulthood. But you're all the same autists who saw a conspiracy theory in two shows saying the word "breakdown" in one week once so please, continue to lecture me on what normal people do, TVIV.
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Jan 18, 2015 06:32
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I don't have a problem with people saying brand names I just thought it was really weird to argue that saying brand names is a signifier of adulthood. Saying a brand name is how people talk and it sounded perfectly natural and not like product placement and it was the fact that Andy even thought to take a Zantac before eating a bunch of pickled eggs that was the signifier of adulthood, this is such a weird discussion
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I don't have a problem with people saying brand names I just thought it was really weird to argue that saying brand names is a signifier of adulthood. But you're all the same autists who saw a conspiracy theory in two shows saying the word "breakdown" in one week once so please, continue to lecture me on what normal people do, TVIV. The classic "oh I didn't mean to sperg about it, you're the spergs anyway" argument.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I don't have a problem with people saying brand names I just thought it was really weird to argue that saying brand names is a signifier of adulthood. But you're all the same autists who saw a conspiracy theory in two shows saying the word "breakdown" in one week once so please, continue to lecture me on what normal people do, TVIV. This is a terrible derail. Knock it off, you especially.
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Jan 18, 2015 14:19
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Ugghh way to be terrible. No one cares. This thread needs gifs of Leslie shoving her crotch at Ron.
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Jan 18, 2015 20:24
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Since when have they put director's cuts on hulu?! I had no idea - are there any that are especially worth watching?
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Jan 18, 2015 23:02
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They've always put them on there. I believe all the DCs are on Netflix as well? They're pretty much all worth watching.
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Merauder posted:They've always put them on there. I believe all the DCs are on Netflix as well? They're pretty much all worth watching. Nah, Hulu only.
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