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AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Lexicon posted:

You guys are going to love this one: http://m.theglobeandmail.com/globe-...?service=mobile

(CI is going to have a brain aneurism :munch:)

quote:

Eric and Ilsa put lifestyle ahead of financial concerns but it has put them in a bit of a bind. He is 41 and a physician, she is 39 and a dentist.

They have five children, ranging in age from less than a year to 9, all of whom will go to private school. They have substantial earning power – although Ilsa is on mat leave at the moment – but Eric chooses to work for less money than he could.

They are living rent free in a relative’s house (they pay taxes, utilities and upkeep) and “regret not having bought a house years ago,” Eric writes in an e-mail. Houses in their Vancouver neighbourhood have doubled in price in the past two years. The house where they live is going up for sale soon, so they need to move quickly.

Last fall, they bought a building lot for $1.1-million and are planning to build a house large enough for their family and a live-in nanny. But with a combined income of $360,000 ($450,000 when Ilsa returns to work) and an $800,000 mortgage, can they afford the builder’s $1-million price tag? Who will lend them the money?

“Two professionals should be able to afford a modest house, but we can’t get the numbers to work and would appreciate some help,” Eric writes. He earns $200,000 a year working one day a week in a medical clinic. But his real love is teaching, which he does one day a week at a university; this earns him $100,000 a year.

“I have no pension whatsoever, but like my parents, colleagues and mentors, I love my work and plan to keep going well into my 80s, so retiring is not a big concern, just living,” Eric writes.

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA-:suicide:

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ChipNDip
Sep 6, 2010

How many deaths are prevented by an executive order that prevents big box stores from selling seeds, furniture, and paint?

Lexicon posted:

You guys are going to love this one: http://m.theglobeandmail.com/globe-...?service=mobile

(CI is going to have a brain aneurism :munch:)

$1000 for kid's activities?? $5400 on tuition?? $2000 a month on travel, so $24,000 a year??? You've already got a house payment AND enough to get your expenses down to match your net income right there. And $2000 in groceries??? Ffs I know Canada can be a little pricier, but that's just ludicrous.

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
"A modest house" = house on a million dollar plot with enough space to comfortably accommodate two adults, five children, and a live-in nanny

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012


Haha I remember these, I have no idea why they released them when the numbers are astronomical enough for their base to be questioning why they aren't making over half a million a year

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Cultural Imperial posted:

It's time we solved these problems with a guillotine

That couple is a candidate for this if I have ever seen one. Works one day a week and is building a million dollar house on their million dollar lot and they have the balls to complain about how poor they are...

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Lexicon posted:

You guys are going to love this one: http://m.theglobeandmail.com/globe-...?service=mobile

(CI is going to have a brain aneurism :munch:)

lol

Eric and Ilsa are fortunate because their parents are willing to put a home equity line of credit on their own home to extend them the $1-million they need to build, and to finance their annual deficit, the planner notes.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Professor Shark posted:

Haha I remember these, I have no idea why they released them when the numbers are astronomical enough for their base to be questioning why they aren't making over half a million a year

VSPs will talk a big game about making "tough sacrifices" and "hard decisions" but when it's their rich buddies who might be inconvenienced then they're bleeding hearts.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
So what did Canada do for macroprudential?

xerxus
Apr 24, 2010
Grimey Drawer

quote:

“Two professionals should be able to afford a modest house, but we can’t get the numbers to work and would appreciate some help,” Eric writes. He earns $200,000 a year working one day a week in a medical clinic. But his real love is teaching, which he does one day a week at a university; this earns him $100,000 a year.

These wages seem suspicious. There's no university I know of that will pay 100k/yr for one day a week.

Doctors can earn 350k/year, but that's full-time.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

xerxus posted:

These wages seem suspicious. There's no university I know of that will pay 100k/yr for one day a week.

Doctors can earn 350k/year, but that's full-time.

Have a look at the public list of top public salaries in BC sometime. Plenty of profs at UBC Sauder and Medicine pulling in that sort of salary on an annualized basis.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
"My real love is teaching. I do it one day a week."

What the gently caress? And why in gently caress's name do you need a live-in nanny with one parent on maternity leave and the other one working literally two days per week? Why do you keep having kids if you have no interest in actually loving raising them?

Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

PT6A posted:

"My real love is teaching. I do it one day a week."

What the gently caress? And why in gently caress's name do you need a live-in nanny with one parent on maternity leave and the other one working literally two days per week? Why do you keep having kids if you have no interest in actually loving raising them?
I popped a loving vein when I read about how he works two days a week.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

PT6A posted:

"My real love is teaching. I do it one day a week."

What the gently caress? And why in gently caress's name do you need a live-in nanny with one parent on maternity leave and the other one working literally two days per week? Why do you keep having kids if you have no interest in actually loving raising them?

My husband's old business parter and his wife were the same. She was a doctor on like over $200k a year who would refuse to take more than one child with her to anything ever because it was "impossible". They had a full time nanny Monday-Friday and would hire her neice to take care of the kids for half the weekend because it's just "too exhausting" and they needed some time to themselves. When they did have to take care of the kids, they would just plonk them in front of Dora the Explorer DVDs and complain about how hard parenting is.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
How do voters put up with this kind of thing? Is there no public oversight for doctor's pay at all? This is literally just Chinese style SOE corruption.

I don't understand how why we even hire Canadians to be doctors anyway, I wish we would just get all our doctors from Bangladesh/the Philipines like the Gulf states, maybe then I might actually get to see a doctor some day.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
I'm pretty sure most corrupt Chinese bureaucrats contribute more to society for less money than these people. How could that possibly be real?

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008
I like how the article's proposed solution is that Eric work one more day a week in the clinic and that this will give him $200,000 more a year.

Count Canuckula
Oct 22, 2014

AegisP posted:

I like how the article's proposed solution is that Eric work one more day a week in the clinic and that this will give him $200,000 more a year.

And work like one of those wretched poors? This family is suffering enough!

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

AegisP posted:

I like how the article's proposed solution is that Eric work one more day a week in the clinic and that this will give him $200,000 more a year.

Everyone has burdens to bear, hopefully that poor, impoverished family can take the stress... :ohdear:

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

lolling how they make six figures but still mooch off their parents in every possible way.

Mom/Dad, I have a medical practice but could you lend me some money from your HELOC for my new house?

melon cat
Jan 21, 2010

Nap Ghost
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melon cat fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Mar 16, 2019

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

I should have become a (real) doctor, I guess.

Meanwhile, in the Financial Post, we have a couple in their 50s with no real savings, but who are going have their house bought from them by their local municipality at a massive premium. Do they ever pick families in remotely 'normal' circumstances?

blah_blah fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Jan 18, 2015

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

blah_blah posted:

I should have become a (real) doctor, I guess.

Meanwhile, in the Financial Post, we have a couple in their 50s with no real savings, but who are going have their house bought from them by their local municipality at a massive premium. Do they ever pick families in remotely 'normal' circumstances?

lol

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

Here's one for CI, a couple in the Armed Forces: http://business.financialpost.com/2015/01/09/b-c-couple-worries-that-unexpected-pay-cuts-could-severely-jeopardize-their-retirement-plans/

(spoiler alert: gigantic government pension means easy retirement despite having no real savings at 60)

ChipNDip
Sep 6, 2010

How many deaths are prevented by an executive order that prevents big box stores from selling seeds, furniture, and paint?
Canada really is just the U.S. 7-10 years behind the times. This is the exact type of poo poo you read and heard about people living in the Sunbelt did circa 2006.

Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)
This time it's different.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

ChipNDip posted:

Canada really is just the U.S. 7-10 years behind the times. This is the exact type of poo poo you read and heard about people living in the Sunbelt did circa 2006.

It's just not anecdotes about bad personal finances, in terms of debt loading Canada already exceeded the worst of the US credit bubble.


http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCAKBN0JT1FF20141215

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.
No wonder it's the primary career ambition of most working-age Canadians to get onto the public sector gravy train.

It doesn't exactly bode well for the future.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Lexicon posted:

No wonder it's the primary career ambition of most working-age Canadians to get onto the public sector gravy train.

It doesn't exactly bode well for the future.

Easy, just socialize everything :ussr:

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Lexicon posted:

No wonder it's the primary career ambition of most working-age Canadians to get onto the public sector gravy train.

It doesn't exactly bode well for the future.

I hoped on that poo poo in 2010... It's like winning the lottery.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

Lexicon posted:

You guys are going to love this one: http://m.theglobeandmail.com/globe-...?service=mobile

(CI is going to have a brain aneurism :munch:)

How the gently caress do these people not have a massive investment portfolio at that amount per month. 25k a month is enough for an investment portfolio and hookers/blow for everyone.

blah_blah posted:

Here's one for CI, a couple in the Armed Forces: http://business.financialpost.com/2015/01/09/b-c-couple-worries-that-unexpected-pay-cuts-could-severely-jeopardize-their-retirement-plans/

(spoiler alert: gigantic government pension means easy retirement despite having no real savings at 60)
This one is just made up, as no government contract whose "trade" disappears comes back at a paycut. If anything you get a 40k pay raise but you sadly have to pay into an RRSP for the first time in your career.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

I hope the perfect storm continues, with the Alberta real estate market crashing next.

Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)
I still get called every once in a while to be recruited to work for Service Canada in Regina.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Which province will be best for housing the flood of Albertan refugees?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Now that you champagne socialists have read these two case studies, I ask if it really is so unreasonable to exterminate everyone in Canada

Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)
Ya

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

blah_blah posted:

Here's one for CI, a couple in the Armed Forces: http://business.financialpost.com/2015/01/09/b-c-couple-worries-that-unexpected-pay-cuts-could-severely-jeopardize-their-retirement-plans/

(spoiler alert: gigantic government pension means easy retirement despite having no real savings at 60)

Jesus, reading that is enough to foment CI-style rage in anyone. These jokers have no idea how good they have it.

On top of the oodles of cash, they get a $1200 a month travel allowance for Christ's sake. Happy to learn I'm helping pay for that.

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

Lexicon posted:

On top of the oodles of cash, they get a $1200 a month travel allowance for Christ's sake. Happy to learn I'm helping pay for that.

I think that that's just the amount they allotted in the retirement budgeting, but it's not completely clear.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I had a friend who was in the Forces and he said that wasted money leaks from everywhere and that if he wasn't benefiting from it he would have been furious as a taxpayer. /anecdote

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

Professor Shark posted:

I had a friend who was in the Forces and he said that wasted money leaks from everywhere and that if he wasn't benefiting from it he would have been furious as a taxpayer. /anecdote

I sort of reconciled myself with the knowledge that the small treats they throw my way are so inconsequential compared to the stuff that actually matters, it's all for the best. SO sometimes yeah I guess I could finish digging that ditch in the frozen Manitoba tundra in half a day instead of a full day, oh well better me than the F-35. :dealwithit:

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ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

Throatwarbler posted:

I sort of reconciled myself with the knowledge that the small treats they throw my way are so inconsequential compared to the stuff that actually matters, it's all for the best. SO sometimes yeah I guess I could finish digging that ditch in the frozen Manitoba tundra in half a day instead of a full day, oh well better me than the F-35. :dealwithit:

I've been following the f35 thread and holy poo poo

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