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I don't have the books handy at the moment but aren't they constantly referencing Miller's porkpie hat as well? Though I guess it's up to the producers/directors to decide whether or not it works on screen. Anyways it looks like it has reasonably high production values at least, I'll probably check it out. I'm a little curious about how graphic they decide to go with the protomolecule effects.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Yea I've never read the books and I think the hat looks retarded. IIRC, in the book it was a porkpie hat. That looks a bit more fedora-ish. It wasn't going to look great either way.
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Jan 15, 2015 23:38
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It looks silly in those still photos but it'll probably be fine when watching the show
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orange sky posted:The rest of your job doesn't imply taking in information? Not in a narrative form. I've been having a lot of fun figuring out where exactly the line is.
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Jan 16, 2015 04:06
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The hat looks fine TBH. Also, is that Tom Jane?
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Jan 16, 2015 07:02
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Remember how Miller is convinced he's a great cop but he's actually poo poo? Maybe, just maybe, the ridiculous looking hat is a way of communicating that to the audience of a different medium.
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Jan 16, 2015 07:08
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Hedrigall posted:First "The Expanse" trailer (SyFy TV series based on Leviathan Wakes etc) Man I really hope they don't screw this up. The production values look pretty good and it's not like they don't have 4 books worth of decent material to draw from. We haven't really had a good science fiction TV series since BSG and even that went down hill pretty hard after the second season. The cast also looks okay, although I always imagined Miller looking like Peter Weller. Also, I'm pretty sure his hat was supposed to look ridiculous, with Miller being the only one who liked it. Please please don't loving suck.
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Hedrigall posted:First "The Expanse" trailer (SyFy TV series based on Leviathan Wakes etc) It looks...odd. Definitely not what I was envisioning. Also, while I understand the practical realities of casting and all that, it seems a bit weird to have all the Belters basically look exactly the same as anybody else and then have a guy dramatically saying "THEY TREAT US LIKE A DIFFERENT SPECIES". Like, that works in the book because you know the Belters are all freakishly tall and thin, but in a TV show where they look just like anyone else, it doesn't quite work. That short snippet of the zero-g sex looked stupid. I'm wondering how they're putting Avasarala in the storyline, since she doesn't actually come in until Book 2. Hedrigall posted:Miller looks so goddamn loving stupid. Meh, I thought he looked alright. Certainly different from what I imagined. Kinda looks too youthful. Then again, supposedly Miller was in his 40s in the book and the actor is supposed to be around the same age. Guess he just doesn't look beat down enough.
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Shnakepup posted:It looks...odd. Definitely not what I was envisioning. Also, while I understand the practical realities of casting and all that, it seems a bit weird to have all the Belters basically look exactly the same as anybody else and then have a guy dramatically saying "THEY TREAT US LIKE A DIFFERENT SPECIES". Like, that works in the book because you know the Belters are all freakishly tall and thin, but in a TV show where they look just like anyone else, it doesn't quite work. Yeah, I think this is one of the unfortunate realities of translating this to a filmed product. Like, there's probably just not the budget to have CG'ified Belters that look appropriately freaky in a SciFi TV show, which I think is understandable. I just hope they go hard on the mannerisms/lingo to make them stand out more.
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Shnakepup posted:It looks...odd. Definitely not what I was envisioning. Also, while I understand the practical realities of casting and all that, it seems a bit weird to have all the Belters basically look exactly the same as anybody else and then have a guy dramatically saying "THEY TREAT US LIKE A DIFFERENT SPECIES". Like, that works in the book because you know the Belters are all freakishly tall and thin, but in a TV show where they look just like anyone else, it doesn't quite work. I was picturing Miller as a sort of sloppier Clive Owen from Children of Men, a bit further down the slide into alcoholism.
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a foolish pianist posted:I was picturing Miller as a sort of sloppier Clive Owen from Children of Men, a bit further down the slide into alcoholism. Robert Forster from Jackie Brown will always be my head-Miller, but Clive Owen is probably the next best one I've seen someone mention. I'm currently reading Three Body Problem. I was enjoying it a lot and it was going along at a very fast pace for me until I hit this VR game part. I hope this is only a small detour and most of the rest of this book doesn't involve it.
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That's a trilby. Fedoras have much wider brims. 
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savinhill posted:Robert Forster from Jackie Brown will always be my head-Miller, but Clive Owen is probably the next best one I've seen someone mention. For some reason, I visualized Miller as Harrison Ford in Blade Runner.
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CaptCommy posted:Yeah, I think this is one of the unfortunate realities of translating this to a filmed product. Like, there's probably just not the budget to have CG'ified Belters that look appropriately freaky in a SciFi TV show, which I think is understandable. I just hope they go hard on the mannerisms/lingo to make them stand out more. too bad, they could've gotten javier botet for at least one character 
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I finished American Elsewhere a few days ago, by Robert Jackson Bennett, the guy who wrote City of Stairs. The plot concerns a woman who inherits a house in a small town in the US, which does not appear on maps and is quite peculiar. Her mother was a scientist working at a government research station nearby. Strange things happen in this city and some residents are not human. I'd class the book as sci-fi overall, but it borrows fairly heavily from cosmic horror. I was a bit wary of this book as I've heard people here denigrating Bennett's earlier writing efforts (particularly Mr Shivers), but this was a decent read. The action moves along decently enough, the characters are generally well written, and the core mysteries are explained well. I only had a couple of problems with the book. One, the author tips his hand on the core mysteries pretty early. You can probably figure out most of the backstory very early on if you're at all familiar with the sci fi genre. What is particularly frustrating about this is the protagonist - who is generally a decent character with a distinctive voice - is seemingly oblivious to the evidence she sees. She is shocked when some things are revealed to her that any canny reader would have figured out many, many pages previously. The other thing that I found kind of a letdown was how uninteresting the setting itself was. I suppose the book suffers by comparison to City of Stairs, which had a fairly original setting. I am not simply saying that the real world itself isn't very interesting, but it seemed like everything relating to the human element of the setting was very mundane (the research station, for example, doesn't have too many secrets to plumb). If you don't mind the premise and liked the writing in City of Stairs this isn't a bad way to kill some time.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Yea I've never read the books and I think the hat looks retarded. Milky Moor posted:Remember how Miller is convinced he's a great cop but he's actually poo poo? coyo7e fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jan 17, 2015 |
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Jan 17, 2015 20:53
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Obviously a fedora type then.
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a foolish pianist posted:I was picturing Miller as a sort of sloppier Clive Owen from Children of Men, a bit further down the slide into alcoholism. 
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coyo7e posted:I always had this image of him as a sort of oldschool crime movie private eye type, in a dirty overcoat and a hat everybody thinks is silly. Clive Owen would have made a good miller, although I always sort of envisioned him as someone like Kolchak, except willing to shoot anybody he deems guilty like Dirty Harry. It's television, though. Basically, the more fuckable actors the better the show's chances. I do not begrudge them this.
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I might be a little late to the news, but apparently ScyFy is making a series based if Robert Charles Wilson's Spin. If theu were going to do one of his novels I would have preferred Darwinia but Spin could make a decent Lost-like serial.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I might be a little late to the news, but apparently ScyFy is making a series based if Robert Charles Wilson's Spin. If theu were going to do one of his novels I would have preferred Darwinia but Spin could make a decent Lost-like serial.
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Stephen Rea (Crying Game, V For Vendetta) was always Miller in my head.
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mystes posted:I'm having trouble imagine this working, although admittedly I ultimately didn't really like the book, anyway. I could actually see this working pretty well for a TV adaptation. It could get away with a fairly low budget for special effects since apart from the cosmonauts in space when the barrier appears and the Chinese nuking the objects over the pole it's mainly your average modern day America for the setting. I think the story itself has the potential to make a pretty awesome TV show. I don't know how it would hold up once they hit the second and third novels though as Axis was just okay and Vortex was a giant mess. Speaking of TV adaptations, Gateway by Frederik Pohl is apparently supposed to be getting the TV show treatment too. This article is from last spring and I haven't heard anything since then but that could also be a really cool show. edit: This is defintely Miller in my head. It might have something to do with me watching Naked Lunch again right as I was in the middle of Leviathan Wakes. 
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I might be a little late to the news, but apparently ScyFy is making a series based if Robert Charles Wilson's Spin. If theu were going to do one of his novels I would have preferred Darwinia but Spin could make a decent Lost-like serial. The Harvest and Mysterium would work well on TV, too.
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a foolish pianist posted:I was picturing Miller as a sort of sloppier Clive Owen from Children of Men, a bit further down the slide into alcoholism. Rewatching CoM has convinced me that it's the closest thing to a good Day of the Triffids film we're going to get. 28 Days Later is (deliberately) closer plotwise, but CoM nails that sloppy deparation so drat well.
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So Phillip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle got produced as a series. http://www.amazon.com/Man-High-Castle/dp/B00RSGFRY8/ The first (and only so far) episode is up for free. The script is not good, it's downright terrible in spots. But the production as a whole is very good. Even where the script is dealing out hackneyed cliches, the actors sell them really well. The production design is very nice, it's a good combo of 40s and 50s aesthetics. The color bits like Times Square decked out in Nazi propaganda are executed well and with taste. Seeing motherfuckers in Nazi uniforms walking around the city I live in (San Francisco) was infuriating. It's good. Watch it. Also read the book, we already know that's solid all the way through.
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mllaneza posted:So Phillip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle got produced as a series. Nice -- I need to check that out. One clarification though -- I don't think Amazon has committed to producing the whole series. Assuming this is like the last batch of pilots they released, they just filmed pilots for a bunch of potential shows, and they want people to watch them and vote on them, and then Amazon will pick a few to produce into full series. They did this awhile back with Mozart in the Jungle, where only the pilot was released, and I guess enough people having voted on it, it was picked up for a full series. So if this looks good to you, vote it up. McCoy Pauley fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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McCoy Pauley posted:So if this looks good to you, vote it up. 5'd. I do want to see where they're going with this, and I really hope they do the hotel sequence.
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Neurosis posted:I finished American Elsewhere a few days ago, by Robert Jackson Bennett, the guy who wrote City of Stairs. The plot concerns a woman who inherits a house in a small town in the US, which does not appear on maps and is quite peculiar. Her mother was a scientist working at a government research station nearby. Strange things happen in this city and some residents are not human. I'd class the book as sci-fi overall, but it borrows fairly heavily from cosmic horror. I read this, and I really loved it until the end- I was really hoping he'd wrap it up without everyone leaving- keeping her around in town. I'd make a good Urban Fantasy setting, a bit like Once Upon a Time, really.
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Hedrigall posted:The Way of Kings: good? It's an amazing book, definitely worth reading.
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With all the new sci-fi shows popping up, I haven't seen this mentioned but Syfy is also making Spin by Robert Charles Wilson into a 6-hour mini series http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/400175-syfy-to-adapt-robert-charles-wilsons-spin
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Fart of Presto posted:With all the new sci-fi shows popping up, I haven't seen this mentioned but Syfy is also making Spin by Robert Charles Wilson into a 6-hour mini series Jesus gently caress, it was mentioned only 10 posts before yours.
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Shitshow posted:Jesus gently caress, it was mentioned only 10 posts before yours. Derp, sorry, but with all the goony fedora hat talk, I kind of overlooked it 
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Why do people always act like it's a Big loving Deal when someone reposts things? I know for me personally the "jump to last post read" function doesn't always work properly and might skip a few posts. No need to jump down someone's throat about it, the guy was just trying to contribute.
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Shitshow posted:Jesus gently caress, it was mentioned only 10 posts before yours. Holy gently caress, it was 11 posts not 10....... get your poo poo together.
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Rough Lobster posted:Why do people always act like it's a Big loving Deal when someone reposts things? I know for me personally the "jump to last post read" function doesn't always work properly and might skip a few posts. No need to jump down someone's throat about it, the guy was just trying to contribute. It's not a proper sci-fi thread without the ever-present risk of unprovoked orifice invasion.
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Hedrigall posted:Stephen Rea (Crying Game, V For Vendetta) was always Miller in my head. Rea is too short to play a belter. My Miller was probably a bit too old, but still.... 
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cultureulterior posted:I read this, and I really loved it until the end- I was really hoping he'd wrap it up without everyone leaving- keeping her around in town. I'd make a good Urban Fantasy setting, a bit like Once Upon a Time, really. I wasn't unhappy with her leaving, but I thought 'What about that dude who was on the other side? And now he's trapped there! You bitch!'
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Neurosis posted:I wasn't unhappy with her leaving, but I thought 'What about that dude who was on the other side? And now he's trapped there! You bitch!' Are you talking about the scientist who worked with her mother? If so, doesn't it imply that he's kind of only halfway in existence? I may be making this up, it was a while ago that I read it. I really enjoyed the book though. Is the rest of his stuff pretty cosmic horror influenced?
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MockingQuantum posted:Are you talking about the scientist who worked with her mother? If so, doesn't it imply that he's kind of only halfway in existence? I may be making this up, it was a while ago that I read it. I really enjoyed the book though. Is the rest of his stuff pretty cosmic horror influenced? Hmm, kind of. He seemed to be in the aliens' reality but viewable from Earth in specific areas - he mentioned the weird landscape and that he was surviving on some lovely native fruit. There are certainly many variations on reality, such as the hypothetical in which Mona had her daughter, and some of the other in-between areas, but I didn't think it was clearly stated where that guy was. He kind of just got forgot about as the plot went on. I haven't read his first two books but his most recent, City of Stairs, isn't much influenced by cosmic horror. It's really good though and I liked it more than American Elsewhere so I still recommend it.
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