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Why do I have a feeling that in the next episode of Occ and Oxx's grand adventure everyone's gonna rave so much about how awesome Rory is as a companion that when they get up to him being erased three episodes from now they'll just take it as given that he's coming back.
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MikeJF posted:Why do I have a feeling that in the next episode of Occ and Oxx's grand adventure everyone's gonna rave so much about how awesome Rory is as a companion that when they get up to him being erased three episodes from now they'll just take it as given that he's coming back. Annakie accidentally spilled the beans on Rory being an amazing companion in the simulwatch (one more reason I hate those things), but Occ has an atrocious memory and I'm going to mislead him as best I can. Fingers crossed!
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Jan 18, 2015 05:43
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EVERYONE BE ENTIRELY NEUTRAL ABOUT RORY
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Jan 18, 2015 05:43
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Maybe he'll take everyone raving about Rory as people trying to misdirect him away from the fact that Rory gets erased from existence a couple of episodes later. Hey Oxx, while you're trying to puzzle out how the time stuff in Flesh and Stone works, think about the fact that from River's point of view the universe has already been reset such that the TARDIS never exploded to cause the cracks.
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Jan 18, 2015 05:52
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Organza Quiz posted:Maybe he'll take everyone raving about Rory as people trying to misdirect him away from the fact that Rory gets erased from existence a couple of episodes later. Forget that, what about the fact that "The Wedding of River Song" prevented River from learning the Doctor's name, which was the entire basis of their trust for the Doctor's initial meeting with her? Or the complete non-existence of Madame Kovarian? Or the fact that, thanks to time bullshit, the Kovarian Faction's first attempt to silence the Doctor (exploding the whole universe with the TARDIS) was probably, in fact, the back-up plan for their actual first attempt (just having River shoot him)? I just remember this page and go on with my day.
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Jan 18, 2015 06:01
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It's going to be hard to keep people from making little not-quite-spoiler comments after Rory's first "death" with the dreamlord.
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Jan 18, 2015 06:04
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Oxxidation posted:Forget that, what about the fact that "The Wedding of River Song" prevented River from learning the Doctor's name, which was the entire basis of their trust for the Doctor's initial meeting with her? I'm pretty sure River says in one of the Minisodes that he tells her very later on in her life; presumably because she knows in Library. Hey, when you said this: quote:since it's all but stated now that her parents investigated the cracks a little too closely and left her orphaned without ever knowing why. had Occ figured it out? Because I remember this thread during the initial run of this season, and whilst it's super obvious in retrospect, back on first view it was a very tenuous theory held by only a few people up until The Doctor outright says her life makes no sense in Pandorica Opens.
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Jan 18, 2015 06:07
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I thought River read his name on that baby crib?
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Jan 18, 2015 06:10
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MikeJF posted:I'm pretty sure River says in one of the Minisodes that he tells her very later on in her life; presumably because she knows in Library. I'll admit I stated it outright to Occ, I had no idea it wasn't obvious to everyone else. "Big time-eating crack in bedroom + no parents" is not a happy conjunction of circumstances.
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Jan 18, 2015 06:10
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Oxxidation posted:I'll admit I stated it outright to Occ, I had no idea it wasn't obvious to everyone else. "Big time-eating crack in bedroom + no parents" is not a happy conjunction of circumstances. Yeah. To be fair to us at the time, 'no parents' is half the characters on television. The other half being 'one parent'. Dealing with backstory characters and casting extra people is, like, so annoying guys.
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Jan 18, 2015 06:17
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If Charlie Brooker ever gets tired with Black Mirror (god forbid), I'd like to see him take a swing running Who.
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Jan 18, 2015 06:52
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I was kind of surprised to see the references to it in the reviews just because it's a reveal in the final episode, but it's certainly obvious in retrospect. Brings back fond memories of the entire Doctor Who thread on the forum I frequented at the time calling the end of series 6 and then dismissing it as too obvious.
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Jan 18, 2015 06:56
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Regarding the cracks in the universe erasing things, I think the question that everyone should be asking is "How did the ducks get erased?" Parents is obvious, but what about those ducks? Is there another crack in time at the bottom of the pool? Was Amelia just shoving random things into the crack and eventually moved up to ducks and neighborhood cats? Did one of her parents get new ducks for the pond after the Great Duck Blight of 2008? This is a vital question that demands a multipart episode to explain! And if I may pitch a few episode titles for it: The Ducks of Death Time of the Drakes The Pond of Evil And, of course, Ducks of the Daleks. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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Jan 18, 2015 07:06
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Random Stranger posted:Regarding the cracks in the universe erasing things, I think the question that everyone should be asking is "How did the ducks get erased?" Parents is obvious, but what about those ducks? Is there another crack in time at the bottom of the pool? Was Amelia just shoving random things into the crack and eventually moved up to ducks and neighborhood cats? Did one of her parents get new ducks for the pond after the Great Duck Blight of 2008? This is a vital question that demands a multipart episode to explain! Day of the Duckleks.
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Jan 18, 2015 07:29
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Random Stranger posted:Oh poo poo It's The Ducks of the Daleks. Fixed
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Jan 18, 2015 07:40
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Random Stranger posted:The Ducks Fixed. (It's illegal to not do that joke in this thread, so I guess it's my turn)
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Jan 18, 2015 08:16
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Oxxidation posted:Forget that, what about the fact that "The Wedding of River Song" prevented River from learning the Doctor's name, which was the entire basis of their trust for the Doctor's initial meeting with her? I've never had a problem with the question of when River learned the Doctor's name. I mean, he could have told it to her off screen literally at any time. I'll admit it would be narratively more satisfying if we actually saw her learn it, but in terms of plot there isn't an issue. Everything we know or assume about "there's only one time I could" is just an assumption or something the Doctor's said and could be lying about.
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Jan 18, 2015 08:17
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Big Mean Jerk posted:If Charlie Brooker ever gets tired with Black Mirror (god forbid), I'd like to see him take a swing running Who. I don't know about showrunning but I'd love to see him write for it too. Grant Morrison as well.
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Jan 18, 2015 08:21
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Espilae posted:Fixed. It's Original Poster posted:The Ducks* one page later posted:*OF DEATH (TWAAAAAANG) get it right
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Jan 18, 2015 09:15
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Oxxidation posted:Forget that, what about the fact that "The Wedding of River Song" prevented River from learning the Doctor's name, which was the entire basis of their trust for the Doctor's initial meeting with her? Burkion posted:I thought River read his name on that baby crib? Yeah, though they never state it is the case, I really dug that if you take the knowledge that she can read and write old high Gallifreyan, and the fact that the Doctor brings out his own baby crib with his name on the side in old high Gallifreyan, then you can absolutely take away that River only knows his name because she read it one day during one of their adventures. I love the idea that all her insinuations and misdirections were just covering up yet again that she doesn't know him as well as she thinks she does.
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Jan 18, 2015 10:43
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah, though they never state it is the case, I really dug that if you take the knowledge that she can read and write old high Gallifreyan, and the fact that the Doctor brings out his own baby crib with his name on the side in old high Gallifreyan, then you can absolutely take away that River only knows his name because she read it one day during one of their adventures. I love the idea that all her insinuations and misdirections were just covering up yet again that she doesn't know him as well as she thinks she does. The Doctor's name was written in the interlocking circles, not old high Gallifreyan. (Old high was a traditional alphabet of symbols in a row like English). That said, if she knew the former it's not a leap to say she knew the latter, which seems to be more common. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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Jan 18, 2015 10:49
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Oxxidation posted:Annakie accidentally spilled the beans on Rory being an amazing companion in the simulwatch (one more reason I hate those things), but Occ has an atrocious memory and I'm going to mislead him as best I can. Fingers crossed! You mean like how you mislead him on what grade to give the last episode? 
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Jan 18, 2015 11:22
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DoctorWhat in the review thread posted:Look, it was a continuity error from nearly five years ago. Who still gives a poo poo about a jacket? Oh fo- you're not being clever, you're just calling attention to it and basically confirming it's significant.
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Jan 18, 2015 11:39
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MikeJF posted:Oh fo- you're not being clever, you're just calling attention to it and basically confirming it's significant. Yeah that's a real stupid pair of posts that basically draw a giant neon arrow to it.
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Jan 18, 2015 11:55
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look if you're expecting precise and faultless subtelty from me, forums poster DoctorWhat...
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Jan 18, 2015 11:57
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Someone brought up Rory's name badge in the simulwatch, though.
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Jan 18, 2015 11:57
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I facepalmed when I saw those two posts, yeah.
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Jan 18, 2015 12:20
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I knew someone couldn't resist mentioning it
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Jan 18, 2015 12:45
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MikeJF posted:The Doctor's name was written in the interlocking circles, not old high Gallifreyan. (Old high was a traditional alphabet of symbols in a row like English). That said, if she knew the former it's not a leap to say she knew the latter, which seems to be more common. In any case, I still get a kick out of the 10th Doctor being all,"Oh wow she knew my name, that's amazing!" and then having River a couple seasons later casually reading it on the side of his crib.
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Jan 18, 2015 13:09
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Noxville posted:Yeah that's a real stupid pair of posts that basically draw a giant neon arrow to it. I stand by my post because it was super vague and didn't give any hint at all, it could have literally been any random thing that the thread at the time latched onto. Doctor What's post is way too wink nudgey though. 
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Jan 18, 2015 13:44
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I assumed the first post was referring to the 'who did River kill?' thing.
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Jan 18, 2015 14:30
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Every time someone brings up this jacket business, I don't know what they mean. Just as I don know where "Martha is a Rutan" came from. 
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Jan 18, 2015 14:47
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Blasmeister posted:I assumed the first post was referring to the 'who did River kill?' thing. Barely even merited discussion, it was so drat obvious it'd be The Doctor. They don't even really try and hide it in the episode. I mean there was some speculation that maybe it was a double-bluff, but that's about it.
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Jan 18, 2015 14:50
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Metal Loaf posted:Every time someone brings up this jacket business, I don't know what they mean. Just as I don know where "Martha is a Rutan" came from. When Amy is waiting by herself, there is a scene where the Doctor tells her to remember. The Doctor also has a slightly different outfit on to the previous and next scenes. Debate raged on whether it was a simple continuity error or a clue.
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Jan 18, 2015 14:53
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Senor Tron posted:When Amy is waiting by herself, there is a scene where the Doctor tells her to remember. The Doctor also has a slightly different outfit on to the previous and next scenes. Debate raged on whether it was a simple continuity error or a clue. He loses his jacket in the scene before, quite noticeably. This is paid off when he goes back through his own timestream in The Big Bang.
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Jan 18, 2015 14:56
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Metal Loaf posted:Just as I don know where "Martha is a Rutan" came from. It was a joke spoiler, like how River being related to Amy was a joke spoiler.
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Jan 18, 2015 14:59
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I'm just glad no one pointed out (as far as I saw) my favorite subtle clue that Things Are Going On, from The Eleventh Hour: where Amy (as a child) talks about her mother cutting faces into apples. But the apple she gives the Doctor must just have been cut (because it's not turned brown yet), implying that her mother must have been erased just moments before the Doctor arrived.
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Jan 18, 2015 15:06
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Senor Tron posted:When Amy is waiting by herself, there is a scene where the Doctor tells her to remember. The Doctor also has a slightly different outfit on to the previous and next scenes. Debate raged on whether it was a simple continuity error or a clue. Which episode was it? I'll go and watch it and see if I can pick it out.
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Jan 18, 2015 15:08
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docbeard posted:I'm just glad no one pointed out (as far as I saw) my favorite subtle clue that Things Are Going On, from The Eleventh Hour: where Amy (as a child) talks about her mother cutting faces into apples. But the apple she gives the Doctor must just have been cut (because it's not turned brown yet), implying that her mother must have been erased just moments before the Doctor arrived. woah what
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Metal Loaf posted:Which episode was it? I'll go and watch it and see if I can pick it out. Flesh and Stone, and it pays off in The Big Bang.
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