|
What should be used to judge potential?
|
#
?
Jan 15, 2015 16:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 00:35 |
|
|
sassassin posted:it'll knock off a star the second they reach their mid twenties I thought that players could not progress AT ALL past 24?
|
|
#
?
Jan 15, 2015 19:47
|
|
|
Mandalay posted:I thought that players could not progress AT ALL past 24? I thought that had to do with physical properties of a player, mentally they can still grow.
|
|
#
?
Jan 15, 2015 22:20
|
|
|
Anyone seen this mod before? It looks pretty ridiculous and incredible. http://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/2sl32i/fm_2015_usa_world_class_14_by_graaa/ fake edit: I know. Reddit.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2015 06:36
|
|
|
joshtothemaxx posted:Anyone seen this mod before? It looks pretty ridiculous and incredible. What looks ridiculous is the terrible optional club and comp logos. I've seen better Photoshop skills in FYAD.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2015 06:52
|
|
|
I wanted to play a poo poo national team to see if I could make them any good, so I decided to play Guatemala. I get to the 2015 gold cup and get to the semi final (and lose to Mexico 8-4). Though what really grinds my gears is the fact that Canada won against Mexico in the final. The winning goal was even someone without a club to make it even more Canadian
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2015 07:23
|
|
|
Mandalay posted:I thought that players could not progress AT ALL past 24? Have you really never seen a stat go up on a player in their late twenties? Players still develop in their 30s (just not physically). Rate of progress slows down as players get older but you can still get a player to fulfill his potential late in his career, provided he's playing regularly, using good facilities and not picking up a lot of injuries. If they never reach the peak star rating that was predicted for them as teens, it was probably not possible in the player to begin with, and either the coaches and scouts were wrong in their estimate, or the metric they use to decide how good a player is was stupid. Usually both. sassassin fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Jan 16, 2015 |
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2015 13:47
|
|
|
sassassin posted:Have you really never seen a stat go up on a player in their late twenties? Players still develop in their 30s (just not physically). Fair enough, but the Potential Rating will definitely equal the Current Rating after 24.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2015 17:48
|
|
|
There's an Argentinian AMC called Angel Correa who I signed on a free in 2019 from Atletico. If you're early in game see if you can pick him up as he's absolutely amazing.
|
|
#
?
Jan 16, 2015 19:57
|
|
|
Mandalay posted:Fair enough, but the Potential Rating will definitely equal the Current Rating after 24. This makes no sense for so many reasons.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2015 02:04
|
|
|
sassassin posted:This makes no sense for so many reasons. It's also decidedly false. I believe the star ratings on your squad screen are still based upon your AssMan's judging current/potential, and are in comparison to the league you're in. From my experience, the 10-20 rating point things that a player at 27/28 might be missing is a lot more noticeable when you're in the lower leagues. I know I've seen that much before classified as a whole star after I've looked under the hood with the editor. Once you're higher up the pyramid though, the players get better, reach their potential 9/10 times at an earlier age due to better training facilities, regular playing time, etc.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2015 08:50
|
|
|
Stars are a rough, short hand approximation given to make things look easier for people who are too lazy to click on each of their player's attributes pages. A player losing a star from their potential when they reach 24/25 means only that the coach/scout has decided that they are less likely to reach their former max, or have invested too much of their potential into attributes they don't consider important for their main roles (like Decisions). It is an assumption on behalf of the AI, nothing more. Potential ability rating is a fixed number that never changes. A player has this number until he retires. There are tens of thousands of players in the database over 24 with a potential rating higher than their current ability. Current ability rating is a constantly changing number produced by adding up the player's attributes and weighting them based on the positions they play. Whenever a player gains or loses an attribute, or gains or loses even a couple of points of familiarity in a position, this number is recalculated and adjusted up or down. Current ability can never exceed Potential, and the difference between the two is the amount a player can develop. This is true for players of all ages. It's just easier for younger players to gain stats, and easier for older ones to lose them. Attributes like Professionalism and Ambition also play a big part in this.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2015 10:59
|
|
|
Stars are relative to the strength of your squad. If you buy players better than the current ones, you'll see their stars go down, because they're not the top dogs anymore.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2015 13:51
|
|
|
XBenedict posted:What looks ridiculous is the terrible optional club and comp logos. I've seen better Photoshop skills in FYAD. Still not the worst part. The worst part is this person went to all this trouble to create league that don't exist in real life and then added fake sponsorship to them. Ffs he made his own league that he could call whatever he wanted. He could call it the "North American Super League" or the "USA Premier League" or the "Dickbutt League for Idiots". What does he choose? quote:Level 1 – Verizon MLS Premier League – MLS - 20 teams with E/W conferences. Fuuuuuuuck that.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2015 13:58
|
|
|
Seems pretty realistic to me.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2015 16:32
|
|
|
Playing Arsenal at the moment, who come with a very comfortable transfer budget and room to improve. I sold Joel Campbell for a good amount (think it was 15m) then brought in Lars Bender, Inigo Martinez and Ricardo Rodriguez, strengthening up the defensive line. Early days yet but it'll be interesting to see what happens.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2015 18:21
|
|
|
vyelkin posted:Still not the worst part. The worst part is this person went to all this trouble to create league that don't exist in real life and then added fake sponsorship to them. Yeah that was pretty loving obnoxious. I am probably going to download it and change all the dumbass names he went with.
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2015 20:14
|
|
|
How do you set up a testimonial for someone and how long have they had to have played for your club?
|
|
#
?
Jan 17, 2015 20:23
|
|
|
Is there an easy way to see how many staff you are allowed to hire? I've gone from Conference to L1 and I think I'm due more than my backroom team of 5!
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2015 11:07
|
|
|
The boardroom screen will tell you just keep asking for more sadly this usually only increase the allowance by 1 each time.
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2015 12:22
|
|
|
The Croc posted:The boardroom screen will tell you just keep asking for more sadly this usually only increase the allowance by 1 each time. Ive had it increase by 4 before, which caught me entirely by surprise
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2015 12:26
|
|
|
Coohoolin posted:How do you set up a testimonial for someone and how long have they had to have played for your club? 10 years, and it's an option you can add when setting up a friendly when you have one available. I never bother, because Alan Tate can go gently caress himself.
|
|
#
?
Jan 18, 2015 17:30
|
|
|
Why is this happening? 
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 03:04
|
|
|
joe football posted:Why is this happening? Holy poo poo. Um, injuries? Age? Civil war? Could it be your tactics?
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 03:48
|
|
|
joe football posted:Why is this happening? Severe mental breakdown, also known as the Michael Johnson Effect? Generally, for a decline as precipitous as that you should have gotten some kind of news item at the time, whether it's a horrific injury or whatever. I remember in some old thread someone was shocked to see a 2-point decline in all attributes on a player due to "serious off-field personal issues" or something like that.
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 04:31
|
|
|
Neither of these guys had any really bad injuries. I think it had to be something with messing around with the real time editor, though I never touched those guys. Kind of sucks, one of them was actually my captain
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 04:45
|
|
|
You sure you didn't change anything about their positional ability or something like that? I've only seen drops like that when the game has been forced to recalculate for some reason - dire injuries / off field events or retraining to a completely new position (like when asshat striker refused to be sold even though I'd never play him and I'd been dumb enough to give him a 5 year contract so I started giving him hard training as a LB).
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 10:35
|
|
|
You either changed their CA, PA or trained them to be goalkeepers. Either way you deserve it for being a cheat.
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 11:41
|
|
|
joe football posted:Neither of these guys had any really bad injuries. I think it had to be something with messing around with the real time editor, though I never touched those guys. Kind of sucks, one of them was actually my captain You probably upgraded their skills but not their PA/CA.
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 11:43
|
|
|
So I'm playing a save as Barca trying to figure out the best way to run a good youth program when I run into this 16 year old sitting around at Tottenham that looks like he has quite a bit of potential. This is what he looks like a year later...
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 14:35
|
|
|
Erin Esurance Waifu posted:So I'm playing a save as Barca trying to figure out the best way to run a good youth program when I run into this 16 year old sitting around at Tottenham that looks like he has quite a bit of potential. This is what he looks like a year later... Jesus Christ. That kid is awesome and I've gone blind from looking at that skin
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 15:32
|
|
|
Capped his CA at 17? Get rid of him. The lad can't even jump!
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 16:36
|
|
|
lol at that aggression, bravery and natural fitness. He'd never survive a wet Tuesday night at the liberty (when I'm managing).
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 17:16
|
|
|
sassassin posted:Stars are a rough, short hand approximation given to make things look easier for people who are too lazy to click on each of their player's attributes pages. A player losing a star from their potential when they reach 24/25 means only that the coach/scout has decided that they are less likely to reach their former max, or have invested too much of their potential into attributes they don't consider important for their main roles (like Decisions). It is an assumption on behalf of the AI, nothing more. I understand all of this and misspoke. What I should have said is that in my experience, after age 24, Potential Rating Stars always equals Current Rating Stars.
|
|
#
?
Jan 19, 2015 19:59
|
|
|
Mandalay posted:I understand all of this and misspoke. What I should have said is that in my experience, after age 24, Potential Rating Stars always equals Current Rating Stars. Oh yeah? Well here's 5 paragraphs of nonsense that says you're wrong.
|
|
#
?
Jan 20, 2015 00:31
|
|
|
I've read this entire thread now on a cold Thursday morning in bed and as a fm14 holdout player I'm now gonna ask if I should for sure be in it for 15. Read some things regarding lotsa bugs and 3d kits not working so I'm slightly perturbed like Messi on a warm tax day in barcelona and wondering if I should catch this now at full price or down the road for a sale. Sidenote, still love 14 so not in a rush.
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2015 12:08
|
|
|
8bitlawd posted:I've read this entire thread now on a cold Thursday morning in bed and as a fm14 holdout player I'm now gonna ask if I should for sure be in it for 15. Might as well wait for the post-transfer window update at this point.
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2015 15:40
|
|
|
8bitlawd posted:I've read this entire thread now on a cold Thursday morning in bed and as a fm14 holdout player I'm now gonna ask if I should for sure be in it for 15. They addressed the 3d kits thing, and the changes to the skin schema. But yeah, just wait another few weeks until the transfer update.
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2015 15:47
|
|
|
Looks like I'm holding out then. This just gives me an excuse finish my Valencia save I guess. Edit: sidenote but how on earth do you guys manage to stay with a team for 5+ years like it would seem sometimes... I typically play 2 seasons with a squad before deciding "hmm I'd like to go X now" and start a new save. OoohU fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Jan 23, 2015 |
|
#
?
Jan 23, 2015 09:57
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 00:35 |
|
|
8bitlawd posted:I typically play 2 seasons with a squad before deciding "hmm I'd like to go X now" and start a new save. A mate of mine lost his job and got a bunch of inheritance money and then spent 400+ hours playing a save in FM2014 until he was into like his 15th season. I can only marvel at that when I rarely last a full year before getting punted out for being crap.
|
|
#
?
Jan 23, 2015 10:26
|
|
