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NTRabbit posted:Presented without comment, a photographic series; Had something similar happen yesterday on Erlenberg assault where we were defending. Almost all of our team just followed the river and sat in the middle of the map for some reason, I was the only one to go to the west flank and two TDs sat in the A0 forest. I have no loving idea how but we still won it, between me whittling down 6-7 tanks to low hp after they took it in turns to peek out at me instead of just rushing me and killing me in a few seconds, they then went out one at a time to get destroyed by the TDs in A0. These missions create the weirdest games.
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kemikalkadet posted:Had something similar happen yesterday on Erlenberg assault where we were defending. Almost all of our team just followed the river and sat in the middle of the map for some reason, I was the only one to go to the west flank and two TDs sat in the A0 forest. I have no loving idea how but we still won it, between me whittling down 6-7 tanks to low hp after they took it in turns to peek out at me instead of just rushing me and killing me in a few seconds, they then went out one at a time to get destroyed by the TDs in A0. These missions create the weirdest games. I think I figured out your problem.
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Rorac posted:I'm not sure what you're complaining about? You get 60% of the shells he does in less than half the time spend reloading, with much better accuracy and a comparable aiming time. His has more damage and pen, but his is also a tier higher gun than yours. That seems... about right? It's very bad when a same tier auto-loader scout can clip you when you can't clip them back when your role is pretty much the same. Compared to the Chinese and American light lines the 12t and 13-75 are both pretty poo poo and need a look at. It's WG m.o. to make sure a line has a stinker or two to help with the gold selling (unless its the Russian lines) but having two not very good tanks one after the other its a problem.
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RandomPauI posted:If you ever want to borrow an account to try out a bunch of tanks let me know in the password thread and I can connect you to someone. ill definitely take you up on the offer later. I've realised with sadness it's going to take months to acquire a glorious
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Foxtrot_13 posted:It's very bad when a same tier auto-loader scout can clip you when you can't clip them back when your role is pretty much the same. The autoloader Bulldog will do a good job of wrecking every single light tank in the field bar a well driven 13 90. If I see one close in my WZ-131 I tend to fire once and then gently caress off in the opposite direction asap, because I simply don't stand a chance of getting in enough shots to kill it first. Also the most pointless thing in the game is trying to drive a tier 7 scout on a narrow lane map with 6 tier 10 mediums on the other side. Such a loving waste of my time. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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NTRabbit posted:The autoloader Bulldog will do a good job of wrecking every single light tank in the field bar a well driven 13 90. If I see one close in my WZ-131 I tend to fire once and then gently caress off in the opposite direction asap, because I simply don't stand a chance of getting in enough shots to kill it first. Can't wait to get my Bulldog, I I'm already wrecking poo poo with the Mt-25 and the thing is a dopey potato of a tank. MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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Proposal: The WZ-111 1-4 has variable armour generated by the server each time you enter a battle Evidence: Battle 1: Facing a mixture of front on, angled, and with the rear sometimes partially up a slope decreasing the front angle, the WZ-111 1-4 bounces approx 3k damage from an Obj. 268 shooting AP, a top gun ST-I shooting HEAT, a top gun Tortoise shooting AP, and a top gun T28p shooting AP Battle 2: With the same mix of angling, a rushing IS-6 not terribly familiar with the concept of aiming puts 4 AP shots through the pike and turret front, and a top gun Caernarvon rounds out the remainder of the damage through the front pike with AP, no bounces recorded Conclusion: gently caress Chinese tanks that aren't the WZ-131 and 132 NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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Jan 18, 2015 14:22
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rossmum posted:No word of a lie, pubbies have this backwards. It's loving incredible. During the WOWs weekend, a lot of people were charging straight at their opponents with forward guns blazing. Although a legitimate idea if the your goal is to get closer to an opponent, these people would never turn to broadside once in a good range. They just turn away and start using the aft guns. When I told some guy he sucked for doing that, his excuse was that he was doing it to mitigate damage. I then promptly showed him the error of his ways by doing a full broadside in his face. Too bad it didn't one shot him, that would have proved my point. drat I miss botes. All of you with Alpha are making me envious.
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NTRabbit posted:Proposal: The WZ-111 1-4 has variable armour generated by the server each time you enter a battle lol you must love being wrong. also, bad
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Atal Vataman posted:lol you must love being wrong. also, bad Congratulations on posting nothing to refute or support actual achieved results, you're an idiot
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Dalael posted:During the WOWs weekend, a lot of people were charging straight at their opponents with forward guns blazing. That was not uncommon with newer players. Most of us who pay regularly know better and enjoy unloading a full broadside into someone and connecting on multiple hits. I sank a Cleveland last night in one volley from my Fuso. It was glorious. This latest patch they tweaked the aiming mechanics making it a little tougher to sink every shot all the time. Also and while you are moving and zoomed in on your target is more difficult to get a good bead on it. I like that it's less easy. I just unlocked the Amagi and probably won't get some sweet sweet Yamato action before the beta weekend next week.
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demonR6 posted:I just unlocked the Amagi and probably won't get some sweet sweet Yamato action before the beta weekend next week. There's another beta weekend next week?! 
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Foxtrot_13 posted:It's very bad when a same tier auto-loader scout can clip you when you can't clip them back when your role is pretty much the same. Compared to the Chinese and American light lines the 12t and 13-75 are both pretty poo poo and need a look at. It's WG m.o. to make sure a line has a stinker or two to help with the gold selling (unless its the Russian lines) but having two not very good tanks one after the other its a problem. Don't stand there and get clipped by an autoloader scout? I know goons tend to be aggressive (gently caress knows I am too) but trying to trade 1-1 with a tank with a bigger autoloader clip is a bad idea, try not doing that. I mean, I agree that the 13 75 and 12t might do with a little bit of buffing after the new lights were introduced but they're not going to extend the clip size after all this time.
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It's amazing how, after months of it never really happening due to the difficulty, suddenly with a mission demanding it all kinds of people in artillery are suddenly pulling off strings of successful counterbattery shots from just a single shot to track. It's almost like there's some kind of beacon shooting up into the sky to let them know. A pole of light perhaps. Coloured red.
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NTRabbit posted:There's another beta weekend next week?! Quite likely. Dalael posted:During the WOWs weekend, a lot of people were charging straight at their opponents with forward guns blazing. Although a legitimate idea if the your goal is to get closer to an opponent, these people would never turn to broadside once in a good range. They just turn away and start using the aft guns. The funny thing is that with about a thirty degree angle off your stern/bow you can get all your broadside onto a dude and still not be showing a flat side to him. People who know more guns = better don't tend to take advantage of that.
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demonR6 posted:That was not uncommon with newer players. Most of us who pay regularly know better and enjoy unloading a full broadside into someone and connecting on multiple hits. I sank a Cleveland last night in one volley from my Fuso. It was glorious. Hope they're not making it too hard tho. That one weekend I played, plenty of my shots wouldn't fully land, which is how it should be in my opinion. Lead was okay, just 1 or 2 shots would tend to go to high or wide, so only part of the salvo's would hit. If they mess with this too much, I can imagine all the people bitching because they can't land all shots in. xthetenth posted:Quite likely. Next time I get to play, I'll try that. I tend to give more of a 45 degree angle, which allowed people to land pretty solid shots on me. I can see how 30 would minimize the silhouette even more. Another nice thing about angling your ship like that, is that a lot of people seem to have a hard time figuring out your trajectory and can't lead properly. Are torpedo destroyers still such a bitch to deal with? If there was one complaint I would have about this game, is the number of fish in the water at any given time. They might miss most of the time, but its loving annoying to spend as much time trying to avoid them as you try to shoot the prick that launched them.
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NTRabbit posted:There's another beta weekend next week?! Yessir want the info linked? NA server goes down on the 20th in preparation so maybe by Friday? Dalael posted:Hope they're not making it too hard tho. That one weekend I played, plenty of my shots wouldn't fully land, which is how it should be in my opinion. Lead was okay, just 1 or 2 shots would tend to go to high or wide, so only part of the salvo's would hit. If they mess with this too much, I can imagine all the people bitching because they can't land all shots in. Most of the people who have been around since early Alpha agree it was too easy once you get the hang of it and making it harder was a good idea. DE's are still a pain in the rear end and if you land a match with a couple of those and CV's kiss you rear end good bye. I habitually run behind our bigger BB's and appear out of nowhere in the middle of a firefight in someone's face unloading a full spread of torps into them running off cackling. It does not work 100% of the time but when it does it is the equivalent of scoring an ammo rack in your little shitter tier 2 on a much higher tier tank. Fulfilling. demonR6 fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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BVTG3-4BX2G-7GSM8-HTZ5R-DM3X7 some bonus code or something enjoy
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Sandweed posted:BVTG3-4BX2G-7GSM8-HTZ5R-DM3X7 some bonus code or something enjoy Thanks for the tank kind goon! Edit: And gold and premium. You're cool.
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demonR6 posted:Most of the people who have been around since early Alpha agree it was too easy once you get the hang of it and making it harder was a good idea. I was only playing the first beta weekend and my main gripe with the game was exactly this. So them making it harder makes me cautiously optimistic for the future (of mankind).
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Dalael posted:Next time I get to play, I'll try that. I tend to give more of a 45 degree angle, which allowed people to land pretty solid shots on me. I can see how 30 would minimize the silhouette even more. Think angling a maus turret only backwards. Angled when shooting, straight when not.
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Keksen posted:I was only playing the first beta weekend and my main gripe with the game was exactly this. So them making it harder makes me cautiously optimistic for the future (of mankind). But what I am trying to say is once you play enough games where you get the hang of it is becomes almost as easy as an autoaim which is no fun. I don't want point & click on my WWII botes. I want to work for it.
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Atomizer posted:That's called "suiscouting!" Desuwa posted:Did you confirm that they spawned at their spawn? Not really useful information to your team, and there's a very limited set of maps where you can spot that early and have anyone on your team ready to shoot. It wasn't a suicide scout. I sat in a bush near lake on Lakeville and lit up the entire enemy team moving into city and middle road while my teammates took shots. I died trying to move in to flank. Nice assumptions though assholes, you don't get that much xp for a suiscout.
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Missing Name posted:There have been a few times in modernish times where a full on, head on charge was possibly warranted. HMS Jervis Bay, HMAS Yarra, the tin can charge in the Battle off Samar Worth noting all but one of those ships also sank NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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NTRabbit posted:HMS Jervis Bay, HMAS Yarra, the tin can charge in the Battle off Samar Samar was a goddamn miracle that any of the US ships survived their suicide charge at the main battle fleet.
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Missing Name posted:Samar was a goddamn miracle that any of the US ships survived their suicide charge at the main battle fleet. Only the Heerman survived. Signals confusion and misidentification by the Japanese contributed.
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NTRabbit posted:Congratulations on posting nothing to refute or support actual achieved results, you're an idiot He's not wrong, though.
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How bad is the KV-4 if we forget it sees tier 10? I have been having fun in the KV-5 by playing aggressively and giving no gently caress, and if the KV-4 is somewhat similar it might be rather fun. Also since the ST-I seems like a fun tier9 heavy. Case in point why KV-5 is fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8duGoBnajzg Good players on my team decide to hold alley on Himmels, I say gently caress it and charge across the court yard. Killing bad IS-6 drivers never gets old.
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warcrimes posted:He's not wrong, though. He is if he's trying to say the tank doesn't have incredibly variable and unreliable upper front armour.
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NTRabbit posted:He is if he's trying to say the tank doesn't have incredibly variable and unreliable upper front armour. I concur with you. I saw little people reprogramming the code before everyone of your matches.
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Goons are terrible at reading jokes, news at 11 The armour is variable in that it isn't the same across the pike, and unreliable because 2 degrees of turn in any direction and a random dice roll can be the difference between bouncing a tier 10 TD and being penned by a tier 8 heavy. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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NTRabbit posted:Goons are terrible at reading jokes, news at 11 Well then try to play while taking into account that your hull armor is unreliable, I guess? What do you want us to tell you? That you're a very good player unfortunately held down by some sort of shadowy WG conspiracy?
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Cardiac posted:How bad is the KV-4 if we forget it sees tier 10? Pretty much a KV-5 that's better in every way, really. It handles itself acceptably in tier 9 matches and makes a mockery out of tier 8 tanks. As soon as you mix in those 10's though, it's like the KV-3 all over again; a slab of slow, flat armor. Though this time with a Tiger II gun.
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WitchFetish posted:Well then try to play while taking into account that your hull armor is unreliable, I guess? As though this thread isn't 95% pointless bitching about tanks or pubbies. If you want everyone to stop that the thread will dry up.
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maev posted:I want that T-55a DDR tank so badly, someone tell me how to set an enemy tank on fire in a medium HE. No seriously, grab an M4 and take the 105.
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maev posted:I want that T-55a DDR tank so badly, someone tell me how to set an enemy tank on fire in a medium Shoot a KV-1 a lot in the rear sides. Or load gold and intentionally aim for an M4's lower plate. Oh or shoot a T29/T34/T30/T32 in the rear sides.
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