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katlington posted:Who does that guy know? That's very impressive, I am jealous.
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SinistralRifleman posted:For a forum that concerns itself with being culturally aware, you show little regard for being aware of the reasons behind why police are responding the way they are today. No doubt that video of the Flagstaff officer will be shown to another generation of police officers as a training tool (I notice you chose not to address that one). It's like the entire justice system is not at all run like a racket. Police respond badly to dangerous situations because they're scared?! I had no idea that being scared for their lives resulted in civil forfeiture Way to completely handwave the massive systemic corruption. Makes total sense to pretend that it has no effect on the civilian body count.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I got $10 that says the police screwed up in some incredibly major/stupid way and the OSBI called them all retards and told them to gently caress off and pray this particular redneck doesn't sue the poo poo out of them. Which would explain the immediate "no-charges, all our fault, please nobody ever talk about this to the press" attitude the locals seem to have adopted. This reminds me of the Jose Guerena shooting. Except there the police killed a man for merely having a rifle in his hands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Guerena_shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4LzwZV6hFQ Or the police in Utah shooting a man for brandishing a golf club. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFEHlkr0lHs
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quote:The shots were heard by Secret Service personnel [outside of Biden's house], who saw the vehicle drive past the home at a high rate of speed and flee the scene. There was probably more going on there but I just loving love that phrase.
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Harik posted:This is going to be a pretty massive change for US police forces. This seems like a huge deal that got lost on the last page.
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mobby_6kl posted:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/secret-service-shots-fired-outside-bidens-delaware-home/ar-AA8jAS7?ocid=iehp Folks seem to forget arrest in these instances also cover detaining too. Resist lawful detainment would result in a resist arrest charges in most places.
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Jan 18, 2015 22:04
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Untagged posted:Folks seem to forget arrest in these instances also cover detaining too. Resist lawful detainment would result in a resist arrest charges in most places. They also seem to cover guessing wrong in a Schrodinger's detainment situation.
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Jan 18, 2015 23:04
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"Am I being detained?" "..." "Okay since I'm not being affirmatively detained I'll go about my business." "Get on the ground! Stop resisting!"
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Jan 19, 2015 01:43
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I got $10 that says the police screwed up in some incredibly major/stupid way and the OSBI called them all retards and told them to gently caress off and pray this particular redneck doesn't sue the poo poo out of them. Which would explain the immediate "no-charges, all our fault, please nobody ever talk about this to the press" attitude the locals seem to have adopted. Rent-A-Cop posted:I got $10 that says the police screwed up in some incredibly major/stupid way and the OSBI called them all retards and told them to gently caress off and pray this particular redneck doesn't sue the poo poo out of them. Which would explain the immediate "no-charges, all our fault, please nobody ever talk about this to the press" attitude the locals seem to have adopted. It sounds like the guy was swatted by someone else. The cops probably didn't identify themselves or verify the call at all.
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Jan 19, 2015 04:17
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Hands up, still gets shot. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/video-shows-nj-cops-gunned-down-unarmed-black-man-as-he-tried-to-surrender-during-traffic-stop/
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Gropiemon posted:Hands up, still gets shot. He failed to follow a direct order from law enforcement, shouldn't have happened but he should have been listening closer.
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Trabisnikof posted:He failed to follow a direct order from law enforcement, shouldn't have happened but he should have been listening closer. Yes, he failed to follow the direct orders to get out of the car and also stop moving.
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Trabisnikof posted:He failed to follow a direct order from law enforcement, shouldn't have happened but he should have been listening closer. That's a sin that should, at worst, get you roughed up on your way to a squad car. Not executed. This isn't Stalin's soviet state and people are still innocent until proven guilty.
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Trabisnikof posted:He failed to follow a direct order from law enforcement, shouldn't have happened but he should have been listening closer. I bet he was wearing some slutty clothing too.
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Trabisnikof posted:He failed to follow a direct order from law enforcement, shouldn't have happened but he should have been listening closer. You should head on back to the USA Today comment section where you belong.
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Jan 21, 2015 22:53
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Intel&Sebastian posted:That's a sin that should, at worst, get you roughed up on your way to a squad car. Not executed. This isn't Stalin's soviet state and people are still innocent until proven guilty. True, bad sadly people force police into having tense encounters with them. At the end of the day, until these communities of resistance stop escalating, the tension and unfortunate situations, like this one, will keep occurring.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:00
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What happened to Eric Garner was tragic, but ultimately his own fault for resisting arrest.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:02
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Trabisnikof posted:True, bad sadly people force police into having tense encounters with them. At the end of the day, until these communities of resistance stop escalating, the tension and unfortunate situations, like this one, will keep occurring. Which part of this situation do you consider so "tense" that it required the driver to be shot to death?
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Jan 21, 2015 23:02
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Trabisnikof posted:True, bad sadly people force police into having tense encounters with them. At the end of the day, until these communities of resistance stop escalating, the tension and unfortunate situations, like this one, will keep occurring. Maybe police departments should stop hiring clinical paranoiacs. If the encounters were as tense as the police claims, people would be pulling guns on the police every other traffic stop.
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Wasn't the guy being told to not move and to get down at the same time didn't help. Either way just because someone is confused and has their hands up doesn't mean you should shoot them. What's the over/under on the cops getting paid leave and nothing happens to them?
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Jan 21, 2015 23:06
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If a cop gets so wound up interacting with a peaceful member of the public they're incompetent and should be fired.
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Ringo Star Get posted:Wasn't the guy being told to not move and to get down at the same time didn't help. Either way just because someone is confused and has their hands up doesn't mean you should shoot them. Over under requires you to provide some sort of benchmark for people to declare whether they believe something will be over it or under it. Such as: What's the over/under on the patriots score this football game? 14. I bet they will go over that.
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Dr Pepper posted:I don't think Trabisnikof is being serious. Winner, winner chicken dinner. I am being serious when I say that police reform is hosed.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:17
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Trolled into defending people who were shot to death unjustly, gently caress!  Edit: Thank god though, I run into too many people who believe that completely without irony.
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I just assume that any lovely opinion spoken in D&D is held in earnest and I'm not wrong nearly as often as I'd like to be.
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Zeitgueist posted:I just assume that any lovely opinion spoken in D&D is held in earnest and I'm not wrong nearly as often as I'd like to be. Don't worry, I can import lovely opinions to help stoke the fires too: quote:Here's the video, for those who haven't seen.
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Also, to the surprise of no-one, the federal case against Darren Wilson is going to be closed http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-ferguson-police-officer-darren-wilson-close-to-being-cleared-by-justice-department-in-michael/
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Intel&Sebastian posted:That's a sin that should, at worst, get you roughed up on your way to a squad car. Not executed. This isn't Stalin's soviet state unless you're a black man, then it's pretty much fair game on your rear end for even existing. I'm still looking for the Black Panther "break out the guns, we are at war with these people" response. On the other hand, here's this: Man arrested after tackling shopper carrying gun White guy sees black guy with gun and plays hero. Turns out black guy's packing legally. White guy gets a charge, goes to jail.
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We really need to learn how to mind our own loving business in this country. Edit: Love the comments on this one quote:I see a lot of people on here commenting about the tackler 'trying to be a hero', as if this was just some mistake or misunderstanding. Odd how this doesn't happen to your average open carry activist, wonder what the difference is... Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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Have the NYPD gone back up to pre-disaster levels of bothering people for petty stuff, or not?
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Trabisnikof posted:True, bad sadly people force police into having tense encounters with them. At the end of the day, until these communities of resistance stop escalating, the tension and unfortunate situations, like this one, will keep occurring. Right, if people don't wanna get shot they should just stop being black it's that simple.
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Classtoise posted:Right, if people don't wanna get shot they should just stop being black it's that simple. No no no, it's over, the battle is done. Dr Pepper posted:I don't think Trabisnikof is being serious. Trabisnikof posted:Winner, winner chicken dinner.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Have the NYPD gone back up to pre-disaster levels of bothering people for petty stuff, or not? yep.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Oh, huh. Does that mean the mayor's office offered them something? They stopped giving a poo poo about wanting de Blasio to apologize when it became clear that Lynch was using the theatrics as a smokescreen for his inability to get them paid.
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Oxxidation posted:They stopped giving a poo poo about wanting de Blasio to apologize when it became clear that Lynch was using the theatrics as a smokescreen for his inability to get them paid.
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RareAcumen posted:No no no, it's over, the battle is done. My defense remains Poe's Law being a hell of a thing v 
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Everyday Lurker posted:On the other hand, here's this: Man arrested after tackling shopper carrying gun From the article: "Hillsborough deputies arrested a man who spotted someone with a gun, followed him into a Walmart, and tackled him." What's the deal with WalMart lately anyway? I'm thinking this is yet another reason to stay away. Also from the article: "The problem? The man with the gun had a concealed weapons permit, and the man who rushed him didn't call 911 or alert store security." Unfortunately, that's not a problem. If he'd a called the cops, there'd be dead guys. Fortunate inept citizens arrest, I guess. Yay.
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If you ever think you see a person who might be armed anywhere at all, even in a crowded area, grab the nearest RPG and launch it at them immediately screaming "Duty of care to protect motherfucker!". Sure there might be some collateral damage or casualties but you'll be able to rest easy knowing you've undoubtedly just stopped the next horrific shooting massacre. You'll also be lauded as a hero and invited to wave to the adoring masses from the lead float in every local parade, so what are you waiting for?
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