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slidebite posted:If I was in the market for a sofa on wheels, I'd be on this. Man that would be a ridiculous car to swap something potent into.
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These things have so much under hood room and came from the factory with such a mix-mash of engine options, I suspect you could literally put any GM based motor in there without a ton of difficulty. The trunk was utterly massive too. I remember playing hide and seek as a kid and a few of us hid in there at the same time.
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Jan 20, 2015 22:01
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Well you might not be in the market for a couch on wheels, but our esteemed premier was! He bought himself a '56 Thunderbird over the weekend at Barrett-Jackson, ticking yet another box on the "Are You the Tinpot Dictator of a Third-World Shithole?" questionnaire.
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Jan 20, 2015 22:09
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I have no problem with that. Dude obviously has the means and took a significant pay cut to become premier. If he wants to indulge his personal hobby so be it, it's just lovely for him that it made the news. Granted optics, yadda, but if the guy has the personal means I don't quite get the big deal.  How much was it anyhow?
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MrChips posted:Well you might not be in the market for a couch on wheels, but our esteemed premier was! He bought himself a '56 Thunderbird over the weekend at Barrett-Jackson, ticking yet another box on the "Are You the Tinpot Dictator of a Third-World Shithole?" questionnaire. 
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Jan 20, 2015 22:25
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ExecuDork posted:The box he ticked was in the "no" column, then. Tinpot Dictators in the Third World drive around in big ol' Mercedes. Always. Times are tough, he's gotta tighten his belt just like the rest of us and settle for a Thunderbird instead of a Mercedes 600.
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Jan 20, 2015 22:45
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71 grand. Dictators in these shitholes always have huge car collections, almost with no exception. And yes it's mostly the terrible optics of the situation; he's likely going to ask the entire civil service to take a huge pay cut to try and make ends meet, and he goes out and splurges on a luxury item like this.
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Jan 20, 2015 23:04
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We had one of those lesabres when I was a kid. Biggest pile of poo poo our family ever owned. Electrics would randomly turn off, usually when descending a mountain on a return trip from radium in the snow and darkness, poo poo mileage, depressing performance ugh. Anyone have family with land in this province that also wants the coyotes removed? I'm seeking revenge.  
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Jan 20, 2015 23:04
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Optics aside I really don't mind this. I'd rather he be able to afford a decent classic car then pay the premier next to nothing so the only person that wants the job is a guy who just got fired from Walmart. Besides what I really find insane about this budget thing is that a sales tax is on the table but not a progressive tax system. God forbid we ask Oil CEOs to give an extra 4% above $250k, how will they live?
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1500quidporsche posted:Besides what I really find insane about this budget thing is that a sales tax is on the table but not a progressive tax system. God forbid we ask Oil CEOs to give an extra 4% above $250k, how will they live? Ding ding ding ding.
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1500quidporsche posted:Optics aside I really don't mind this. I'd rather he be able to afford a decent classic car then pay the premier next to nothing so the only person that wants the job is a guy who just got fired from Walmart. Gotta make sure dem welfare queen poors pay their fair share. *spits*
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Jan 20, 2015 23:12
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71 grand wouldn't even cover ralph's liquor budget or redford's family vacations.
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Jan 20, 2015 23:16
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Powershift posted:71 grand wouldn't even cover ralph's liquor budget It would go above and beyond his 3 am "donations" to the homeless budget though.
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Powershift posted:71 grand wouldn't even cover ralph's liquor budget or redford's family vacations. Holy poo poo this post 1500quidporsche posted:It would go above and beyond his 3 am "donations" to the homeless budget though. 
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Hrmm, layoffs layoffs layoffs. I wonder what sort of forclosures will be on the table by spring breakup.
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Maybe in the future Canada will learn from this and we'll invest surplus money into a fund that can stabilize the economy if the industry producing that money falters.
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8ender posted:Maybe in the future Canada will learn from this and we'll invest surplus money into a fund that can stabilize the economy if the industry producing that money falters. What, like those damned Socialists in Norway? With their trillion-dollar wealth fund? THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BOUGHT SO MANY PICKUP TRUCKS MISTER
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Norwegians are also taxed so hard that it would make even the most die-hard lefty in Canada think twice.
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Also we have that but it doesn't stop the provincial government from burning our infrastructure and service provision to the ground so their CEO bros can get another yacht
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Its a bit worrying but I think anyone who hasn't been really dumb with their money should roll out OK. I wanted to convert my truck into a flatdeck toy hauler and get a side-byside ATV and a camping trailer but instead I'm going to just sit on money and wait. I guess it will be another year of tent camping.
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DrakeriderCa posted:Also we have that but it doesn't stop the provincial government from burning our infrastructure and service provision to the ground so their CEO bros can get another yacht Hi I'm Premier Jim Prentice, and I own a Thunderbird. We just can't keep paying the public sector so much money. Never raise royalties. If you'll excuse me, I need to drive to a cocaine orgy at the AHS board meeting.
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DrakeriderCa posted:Also we have that but it doesn't stop the provincial government from burning our infrastructure and service provision to the ground so their CEO bros can get another yacht A pragmatic person would think: We have a shitton of unemployed people that aren't that closely tied to Alberta. Let's employ them in these troubling times where we can get them on the cheap to gently caress it, let those bums take the shitton of money they've earned here back east and leave infrastructure until unemployment is back at record lows. it'll cost significantly more and it absolutely has to get done because its rotted away
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Jan 21, 2015 22:37
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You say that like any of the money is still in the province, it's all in banks or spent on 19 skidoos, an ATV, a 400k mcmansion and a 50k diesel truck with 25k in chrome garbage and grasshopper lift bolted to it.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:07
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kastein posted:a 400k mcmansion In 2005
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kastein posted:You say that like any of the money is still in the province, it's all in banks or spent on 19 skidoos, an ATV, a 400k mcmansion and a 50k diesel truck with 25k in chrome garbage and grasshopper lift bolted to it. Phy posted:In 2005 Yeah you can't even buy a 2br condo for 400k here. McMansions start in the million dollar range. Personal-use diesel trucks start at maybe 60-70 in the packages I'm seeing.
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The oil rich kids don't live in Edmonton or Calgary. They're in Hinton/Edison/GP/Mac. And 400K will get you a pretty nice place in a few of those towns.
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jonathan posted:The oil rich kids don't live in Edmonton or Calgary. They're in Hinton/Edison/GP/Mac. And 400K will get you a pretty nice place in a few of those towns. yeah, but then you live in one of those towns. Have you ever been in the edson walmart? it's somehow more depressing than a regular walmart. It has about half the lighting, and bare concrete floors. mcmansions are still a mil out there too, they're each on their own couple acres instead of side by side though.
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jonathan posted:The oil rich kids don't live in Edmonton or Calgary. They're in Hinton/Edison/GP/Mac. And 400K will get you a pretty nice place in a few of those towns. $400K will get you a much nicer place if you wait a few more months for the foreclosures to start 
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I don't even think it will take that long, every person I know who works on a rig is either shutting down in the next few weeks or shut down already. Knowing how most of these guys are running their finances, I give it 3 months max before those guys are out of money and selling/losing everything they own, and then all the knock on effects will start coming around to everyone else not directly working in the oil industry or the government.. I think a lot of people really underestimate how tightly the Alberta economy is tied to the oilfield, and if this turns into an 80's style oil bust, nobody's going to be unaffected, I mean people are already taking shots at Alberta Health Services for having like 1000 employees making six figures, and I think it'll only spiral out from there. If public servants aren't safe, I don't really think many people who live and work in Alberta are going to be unaffected, regardless of occupation or how removed from oil money they think they are. On the plus side, I bet there's going to be some really good deals on 1 ton diesels that'd still be a smoking deal even after unfucking suspensions and drivetrains. I've been to the Edson Wal-Mart. Meth is a hell of a drug.
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There are a lot of people calling shots right now that were in Ontario or the US during the 80s oil bust. They don't know how deep the problem can go, but they also don't have the balls the 80s guys did. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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I have no idea how Harper is going to deal with long term unemployed Albertan oil workers after he gutted the gently caress out of EI to screw Ontario and the maritimes. I suspect the internal conflict may cause him to burst into flames.
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8ender posted:I have no idea how Harper is going to deal with long term unemployed Albertan oil workers after he gutted the gently caress out of EI to screw Ontario and the maritimes. I suspect the internal conflict may cause him to burst into flames. He can't, they need a few months to figure out what to do about the budget, lmbo. Ontario on the whole seems to like him for some reason though. I cannot figure that out at all, I thought you guys used to at least be a moderate center type area back in the nineties. What happened?
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I just hope if I get laid off that I get rehired. I can find work elsewhere but I really like working for the company I'm at.
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The one thing we know for sure is that history repeats itself with this and it WILL come back. The smart companies with a financial cushion keep as many of their valuable employees as they can and cut the lazy driftwood free because the good guys are the first to be poached when sign start pointing to a turn-around. I will also say that if you have yet to put money in your RRSPs and TFSA and have the funds to do so, it is almost certainly a good time to buy energy companies that are big enough you don't have to worry about them going tits up. It might not be the bottom yet, but it probably doesn't matter much.
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Slung Blade posted:Ontario on the whole seems to like him for some reason though. I cannot figure that out at all, I thought you guys used to at least be a moderate center type area back in the nineties. What happened? Several years ago The Economist pointed out that historically Canadian voters like to put their Provincial and Federal governments at odds with each other. When the Feds are Liberals, most provinces tend to elect Conservatives, and vice-versa. Which explains why Ontario elected the first openly gay provincial premier at their last election. Kind of a balance thing, I guess. Not described by The Economist, but we also seem to like to elect municipal governments that compete for title of "most corrupt" and "most insane". Ford is the obvious poster child, but the number of pending criminal cases against mayors of Canadian cities strongly suggests we vote for city governments that will provide entertaining antics to distract from the boring drudgery of the provincial - federal fighting.
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Slung Blade posted:He can't, they need a few months to figure out what to do about the budget, lmbo. Don't lump us northerners in with Southern Ontario. Everyone up here hates the piss out of Harper, but we have so few seats it almost doesn't matter. And the provincial gov't is no better. When Manitoba's roads are in better shape and better maintained, there's an issue.
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We're already getting told at work that the "satisfaction of working for the public good" is part of our compensation. "Shared sacrifice with Alberta taxpayers" is becoming a popular mantra too, as if I'm not one of them.
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UnFriendly Fire posted:We're already getting told at work that the "satisfaction of working for the public good" is part of our compensation. I'm not even remotely close to being on the public payroll but jesus christ that's insulting.
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UnFriendly Fire posted:We're already getting told at work that the "satisfaction of working for the public good" is part of our compensation.
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UnFriendly Fire posted:We're already getting told at work that the "satisfaction of working for the public good" is part of our compensation. Christ. I would actually like to work in the public sector. But of course it's overrun by dillweeds like this.
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